Sixth Annual Israeli Apartheid Week
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Why do you love racist Israel Bear? They are clearly conducting genocide in an undeniable apartheid state. But you support them and you laud them and you defend them against the good people of the world. I wonder would you also have sided with and helped Columbus?
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/kill-arabs-cry-anti-semitism/
Because they aren't. Hence the Arabs that live there in peace and comfort, afforded the rights as are all citizens.
So I'm told, but the facts just don't add up to that conclusion.
OI would hardly include yourself, eao or mhz as the "good people of the world".
Don't know, I wasn't there, but I'm sure that won't stop you from making something up, I mean that's pretty much what you three do anyways.
Why change you MO now.
I'm actually a fan of Norman Finklstein's. I think he's well spoken and I agree with his position on the holocaust industry.
I find it hard to believe, that a holocaust denier like yourself would provide a quote to his site. Seeing as you and he are diametrically apposed in many ways. But I guess when you're void of any ethical conduct, much like yourself, it doesn't matter what ideology you pimp, so long as it supports you hate.
What?? I only heard about the ones that came to see why so many Arab civilians were running away. The body count for the ones who didn't/couldn't run is proof somebody needed to help them. The crowd of 33 certainly were nowhere to be found despite the written words to the contrary.
Then I suggest you read some history of the events that led up to the war. Pay close attention to where the Arab States advised the Arabs of the region to vacate the area, before they exterminated the Jews.
Again, your ignorance betrays you. You really should invest in your mind and research the history of the area. I'm no fan of wiki, but even they know more about the war then you do. For me to say that, means there's a serious issue in you lack of knowledge.
Of course, this doesn't surprise me.
I capitulate, you would be the expert on stupid. Didn't you just read about how marriage can't even make you an Israeli?
There is another vid that is just about one day at a 'out of the way crossing', only Palestinian people are being harassed to the little grins of the IDF that are manning
Having had many conversations with you, most of us have become experts on stupid, your posts are synonymous with stupid.
True, but you can still apply for Israeli citizenship. The reverse is not at all achievable.
Although I will fully support your contempt for that, and I sincerely do. I can also, because I am not as close minded as you and the rest of your cabal, see it from the side of the IDF and most Israeli's.
Another sad fact, lost on all of you. Ironically, you all think of yourselves as humanists, and yet you can not see the pain from the other side. Yet you have no problems point a boney finger at people like myself, that do. :lol:
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I just reviewed the events of the first 40 years of the takeover (1880-1920) and no mention of leaving the +90% of the land that they owned? They would never advise then to leave before they faced eviction, they would have read the document they voted against, unlike the 33 that sign on to the plan and then seemed to have forgot what they signed by the end just one month.
Do they know that there shouldn't have even been a war?
I doubt if anything has surprised you in a long, long time. It denotes a person just learned something new. As of this moment there are still things about Israel's recent history that does surprise me and most often it is not a pleasant surprise. For instance, after the independence war the violence should have subsided some. No such thing.
[SIZE=+1]DAWAYMA MASSACRE:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]On October 29 Palestine): the Israeli army brutally massacred about 100 women and children, precipitating a massive flight of people from that village on the western side of the Hebron mountains. Mr. Walid Khalidi, author of All That Remains, says that the Palestinian inhabitants at Dawayma faced one of the larger Israel massacres, though today it is among the least well-known.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0] The following are excerpts of a description of the massacre published in the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] Israeli daily ‘Al ha Mishmar, quoted in All That Remains:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] The children they killed by breaking their heads with sticks. There was not a house[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] without dead…one commander ordered a sapper to put two old women in a certain[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] house…and to blow up the house with them. The sapper refused…the commander then ordered his men to put in the old women and the evil deed was done. One soldier boasted that he had raped a woman and then shot her…[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] A former mukhtar (head of a village) of Dawayma interviewed in 1984 by the Israeli daily Hadashot, also quoted by Mr. Khalidi, offered another description:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] The people fled, and everyone they saw in the houses, they shot and killed. They[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] also killed people in the streets. They came and blew up my house, in the presence of eye-witnesses…the moment that the tanks came and opened fire, I left the village immediately. At about half-past ten, two tanks passed the Darawish Mosque. About 75 old people were there, who had come early for Friday prayers. They gathered in the mosque to pray. They were all killed.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] About 35 families had been hiding in caves outside Dawayma, according to the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] mukhtar, and when the Israeli forces discovered them they were told to come out, line up, and begin walking. “And as they started to walk, they were shot by machine guns from two sides…we sent people there that night, who collected the bodies, put them into a cistern, and buried them,” the mukhtar told the Israeli daily.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]HOULA MASSACRE:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]26/10/1948 (Lebanon) :Houla is located in southern Lebanon, only a few kilometers from the Israeli border. When Arab volunteers gathered to liberate Palestine from "Israeli" occupation, they established their headquarters in Houla, on hills overlooking Palestine. The force was successful in fending off major attacks on Lebanese villages, but the fighters suddenly withdrew on October 26, 1948." "Jewish militants attacked the town to avenge the residents' support of Arab resistance forces. On October 31, Jewish militants dressed in traditional Arab attire entered the border village. Residents gathered to cheer the men, thinking Arab volunteer fighters had returned. They were wrong. The militants rounded up 85 people and detained them in a number of houses, firing live ammunition at the civilians and killing all but three. That was not enough. Jewish militants blew up the houses with dead corpses inside. They confiscated property and livestock. The three who survived the massacre, of whom one is still alive, and other town residents fled to Beirut. Following the armistice agreement between Lebanon and "Israel" in 1949, village residents returned to find their houses in rubbles and their farms burnt. Houla remains under Israeli occupation today, and has suffered the brunt of "Israeli" animosity towards Lebanon. Only 1,200 out of 12,000 people remain in the village. The Houla massacre was one of a series of massacres committed by "Israel" against Lebanese civilians.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]Salha Massacre:[/SIZE]
1948 (Lebanon) : After forcing the population together in the mosque of the village, the occupation forces ordered then to face the wall, then started shooting them from behind until the mosque was turned into bloodbath, 105 person were mrytyred. Back to top [SIZE=+1]SHARAFAT MASSACRE:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]7 Febraury 1951(Palestine): Israeli soldiers corssed the armistice line to this village (5Km from Jerusalem) and blew up the houses of the Mukhtar and his neighbors. 10 were killed (2 elderly men,raeli soldiers corssed the armistice line to this village (5Km from Jerusalem) and blew up the houses of the Mukhtar and his neighbors. 10 were killed (2 elderly men, 3 woemen and 5 children) and 8 were wounded.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Back to top[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The Massacre at Qibya:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0]14-15/10/1953 (Palestine): On the night of October 14-15, 1953 , this village was the object of a brutal "Israeli" attack which was carried out by units from the regular army as part of a pre-meditated plan and in which a variety of weapon types were used. On the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] evening of October 14, an Israeli military force estimated at about 600 soldiers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] moved toward the village. Upon arrival, it surrounded it and cordoned it off from all of[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] the other Arab villages. The attack began with concentrated, indiscriminate artillery[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] fire on the homes in the village. This continued until the main force reached the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] outskirts of the village. Meanwhile, other forces headed for nearby Arab towns such[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] as Shuqba, Badrus and Na'lin in order to distract them and prevent any aid from[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] reaching the people in Qibya. They also planted mines on various roads so as to[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] isolate the village completely. As units of the Israeli infantry were attacking the village[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] residents, units of military engineers were placing explosives around some of the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] houses in the village and blowing them up with everyone in them under the protection[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] of the infantrymen, who fired on everyone who tried to flee. These acts of brutality[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] continued until 4:00 a.m., October 15, 1953, at which time the enemy forces[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] withdrew to the bases from which they had begun.16 There was a particular sight the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] memory of which remained in the minds of all who saw it: an Arab woman sitting on a[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] pile of debris and casting a forlorn look into the sky. From beneath the rubble one[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] could see small legs and hands which were the remains of her six children, while the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] bullet-maimed body of her husband lay in the road before her.17[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] This vicious terrorist attack resulted in the destruction of 56 houses, the village[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] mosque, the village school and the water tank which supplied it with water. Moreover,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] 67 citizens lost their lives, both men and women, with many others wounded.18[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] Terrorist Ariel Sharon, the commander of the "101" unit which undertook the terrorist[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] aggression, stated that his leaders' orders had been clear with regard to how the[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] residents of the village were to be dealt with. He says, "The orders were utterly clear:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] Qibya was to be an example to everyone."19[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]KAFR QASEM MASSACRE:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]On October 29, 1956 (Palestine): the day on which Israel launched its assault on Egypt , units of Israel Frontier guards started at 4:00 PM what they called a tour of the Triangle Villages. They told the Mukhtars (Aldermen) of those villages that the curfew from that day onwards was to start from 5:00 PM instead of the usual 6:00 PM, and that the inhabitants are requested to stay home. The Mukhtar (Alderman) protested that there were about 400 villagers working outside the village and there was not enough time to inform them of the new times. An officer assured him that they will be taken care of.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0]Meanwhile, the officers positioned themselves at the village entrance. At about 4.55 PM, unaware of the ambush awaiting them, the innocent farmers started flocking in after a hard day of work. The Israeli soldiers started stepping out of their military trucks and ordered the villagers to line up. Then the officer in charge screamed "REAP THEM," and the soldiers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]riddled the bodies of the Palestinian villagers with bullets in cold blood. With the massacre practically over, the soldiers moved around finishing off whoever still had a pulse in him.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]The government of Israel took great pains to hide the truth, but after the investigation was concluded, Ben Gurion, the Israeli Prime Minister, announced that some people in the Triangle had been injured by thefrontier guards. The press also was part of the conspiracy to cover up the incident. The Hebrew press wrote about a "mistake?" and a "misfortune" , when it mentioned the victims, and it was difficult to tell whom it meant.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]More absurd than the trial of accomplices was their light sentences. The court found Major Meilinki and Lt. Daham guilty of killing 43 people and sentenced the former to 17 years and the latter to 15 years. What was remarkable about the Israeli official attitude was that various authorities competed to lighten the killer's sentences. Finally, the committee for the release of prisoners ordered the remission of a third of the prison sentence of all those who were convicted. In September 1960, Daham was appointed in the municipality of the city of Ramle as officer for the Arab Affairs.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]Khan Yunis Massacre:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]3/11/1956 (Palestine): Another massacre is committed on November 3, 1956 when the Israelis occupy the town of Khan Yunis and the adjacent refugee camp. The Israelis claim that there was[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]resistance, but the refugees state that all resistance had ceased when the Israelis arrived and that all of the victims were unarmed civilians.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Many homes in Khan Yunis are raided at random. Corpses lie everywhere and because of the curfew no one could go out to bury them. (An UNRWA investigation later found that the Israelis at Khan Yunis and therefugee camp had murdered 275 civilians that day ).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]After the Israelis withdrew from Gaza under American pressure, a mass grave[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]was unearthed at Khan Yunis in March 1957. The grave contained the bodies[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]of forty Arabs who had been shot in the back of the head after their hands[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]had been tied.[/SIZE][SIZE=-2]("IMPERIAL ISRAEL", Michael Palumbo; London; Bloomsbury Publishing; 1990 pp. 30 - 32, citing UN General Assembly: Official Record, 11th session supplement, nop.)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]The Massacre in Gaza City:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+0]5/4/1956 (Palestine):On the evening of Thursday, April 5, 1956, Zionist occupation forces fired 20-mm mortar artillery on the city of Gaza. The shelling was concentrated against the city center, which was teaming with civilians going about their day-to-day affairs.29 Most of the shelling was directed against Mukhtar Street, Palestine Square and nearby streets, as well as the Shuja'iyya district.30 As a result of this terrorist massacre carried out by gangs belonging to the Zionist Army against the Palestinian people, 56 people were killed and 103 were injured, the victims including men, women and children. Some of the wounded died subsequently, bringing the death toll to 60,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0] including 27 women, 29 men and 4 children.31[/SIZE]
Well then, you're hardly equipped to discuss the events of 47/48 then are you?
Well then you must be some sort of magical historian then, because the Arab Nations most certainly did warn the Arabs in the area to run.
I believe so. But you may want to go back in time and tell the Arabs that started it.
Sad but true, after many years of dealing with people like you. So narrow minded and shut off from reality, has left me jaded and oft cruel.
Again, this shows your limited cognitive skill. In actual fact, it denotes someone with great knowledge, but sadly that is tempered with cynicism and contempt.
I can see why. But I'm saddened that you have the humanity to see the crimes committed by the other side, which of course is where you detatch from reality too.
This is true, but the Arabs were just as relentless with their pursuit to commit genocide, as the Nazi they counciled it on.
Yes, you've posted this cut & paste repeatedly, as if it has some overwhelming merit and somehow negates the culpability of the other side.
You really don't read carefully, do you? I posted this information months ago.
"The most potent factor [in the flight of Palestinians] was the announcements made over the air by the Arab-Palestinian Higher Executive, urging all Haifa Arabs to quit... It was clearly intimated that Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."
-- London Economist October 2, 1948
"Every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe."
-- Haifa District HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1948, (quoted in Battleground by Samuel Katz).
So is that an admission that they are treated differently and that they are denied free passage to international waters? That's a war crime.
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MHz, To quote your article:
"For the fighters, the humanitarian convoys were resupplying their enemies. That made the aid workers enemies as well. “You say you are helping women and children,” I heard a Croat fighter say bitterly to an official of the Danish Refugee Council at an improvised checkpoint in western Herzegovina. “You are doing nothing of the sort. You are helping the Muslims.”
The Danish official only shook her head. “You’re quite wrong,” she said. “We are taking no sides; our aid is neutral.” The Croat soldier’s only response was a bitter laugh.
We waited at the checkpoint for a long time. We would wait for just as long at half a dozen others before we finally arrived in the town of Travnik, controlled by the Bosnian government. The Croats stopped us along the road. The Serbs shelled us from the hills. That was what pushing a humanitarian convoy through was usually like. At the checkpoints, the law counted for little. As the Danish official put it to me, “In this war, not only do the fighters not obey the law, they don’t even know what we’re talking about when we speak of humanitarian requirements.”
War is not humane by any stretch of the imagination. Best way to add any kind of humanity to it is to end it as soon as possible.
"For the fighters, the humanitarian convoys were resupplying their enemies. That made the aid workers enemies as well. “You say you are helping women and children,” I heard a Croat fighter say bitterly to an official of the Danish Refugee Council at an improvised checkpoint in western Herzegovina. “You are doing nothing of the sort. You are helping the Muslims.”
The Danish official only shook her head. “You’re quite wrong,” she said. “We are taking no sides; our aid is neutral.” The Croat soldier’s only response was a bitter laugh.
We waited at the checkpoint for a long time. We would wait for just as long at half a dozen others before we finally arrived in the town of Travnik, controlled by the Bosnian government. The Croats stopped us along the road. The Serbs shelled us from the hills. That was what pushing a humanitarian convoy through was usually like. At the checkpoints, the law counted for little. As the Danish official put it to me, “In this war, not only do the fighters not obey the law, they don’t even know what we’re talking about when we speak of humanitarian requirements.”
War is not humane by any stretch of the imagination. Best way to add any kind of humanity to it is to end it as soon as possible.
Iron, although I agree with your assessment, there was a reason I didn't respond to it. It was simply a deflection. It doesn't even pertain to the conflict in this topic.
Don't bit at their hooks, that's how obfuscate the issues.