Six civilization destroyed by climate change

EagleSmack

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I'm sure we won't give up oil.

It will simply become a secondary or tertiary resource and gradually make its way further down.

The key problem is finding a way to reduce exploiting it in a sustainable way.

Just like your coffee thread... you're FOS. You're just an alarmist zealot.

No credibility.
 

petros

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Then maybe we aren't working hard enough to instill rational unemotional thought and how to apply it to real life and scenarios?
 

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That human activity has had and is still having a detrimental effect on local, regional, and global ecology and climate is undeniable. We do not have to go to the Lebanon or the Orkneys to see these effects. Just spend some time on the Canadian Prairies. Look at the degradation of lakes, the loss of wildlife habitat, and the quality of drinking water.

We all have profited from from modern lifestyle, but that does not mean we cannot point to waste, lack of foresight, poor practices that affect health and biosphere. Sure, the Great Male Sky Spirits may have a heavenly trout stream for us to fish in when we've crapped out, but I wouldn't bank on it. So, it is best for the generations which follow that we become better stewards.
 

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That human activity has had and is still having a detrimental effect on local, regional, and global ecology and climate is undeniable. We do not have to go to the Lebanon or the Orkneys to see there effects. Just spend some time on the Canadian Prairies. Look at the degradation of lakes, the loss of wildlife habitat, and the quality of drinking water.

We all have profited from from modern lifestyle, but that does not mean we cannot point to waste, lack of foresight, poor practices that affect health and biosphere. Sure, the Great Male Sky Spirits may have a heavenly trout stream for us to fish in when we've crapped out, but I wouldn't bank on it. So, it is best fot the generations which follow,that we become better stewards.

Thenk yew!

I half-heartedly support AGW because many of the ameliorative techniques are also pollution control.

Just as I half-heartedly supported SDI because it was about the only way space research was going to continue.
 

EagleSmack

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That human activity has had and is still having a detrimental effect on local, regional, and global ecology and climate is undeniable. We do not have to go to the Lebanon or the Orkneys to see these effects. Just spend some time on the Canadian Prairies. Look at the degradation of lakes, the loss of wildlife habitat, and the quality of drinking water.

We all have profited from from modern lifestyle, but that does not mean we cannot point to waste, lack of foresight, poor practices that affect health and biosphere. Sure, the Great Male Sky Spirits may have a heavenly trout stream for us to fish in when we've crapped out, but I wouldn't bank on it. So, it is best for the generations which follow that we become better stewards.

Good post... except for the climate part.

But I agree conservation, pollution controls, protection of wildlife habitats, marine conservation... all great, noble, and necessary.

Selective theft and wealth distribution... not so much. The climate will change.
 

petros

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That human activity has had and is still having a detrimental effect on local, regional, and global ecology and climate is undeniable. We do not have to go to the Lebanon or the Orkneys to see these effects. Just spend some time on the Canadian Prairies. Look at the degradation of lakes, the loss of wildlife habitat, and the quality of drinking water.

We all have profited from from modern lifestyle, but that does not mean we cannot point to waste, lack of foresight, poor practices that affect health and biosphere. Sure, the Great Male Sky Spirits may have a heavenly trout stream for us to fish in when we've crapped out, but I wouldn't bank on it. So, it is best for the generations which follow that we become better stewards.

The lakes, ponds, streams, rivers, marshes etc are making huge come backs after the droughts of the late 80 's 90 s. The abundant wildlife is coming back out of the bush and on to the plains to wander amongst the super abundant GMO crops and jackpumps.

Have you seen the size of pickerel, pike perch & steelheads lately?

The mind blowing evolution of agriculture has mind blowing benefits.

We aren't rolling the soil over destroying the mycological mats in the soils.

This mycological system is the key to the non-fertlizer reliant abundance of the past when the Pioneers settled here.

Run off from agland into the watershed is plumetting. The earth is full of water again as are the alkaline and calcite wells you once so admired.
 

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The pike and pickerel fishery has collapsed in Alberta and to a lesser extent in Saskatchewan. Look at government reports. Have a good one; I am off to save the world.
 

taxslave

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Gotta look at the positives of climate change. Assume for a moment that the truthers are right and the globe is warming. Much of Canada is way too cold to grow crops despite lots of daylight. We stand to be a major source of world food supply. The arctic will be ice free significantly cutting shipping costs from the west coast to Europe, not to mention the ability to have major ports in the arctic, not to mention access to the natural resources in the North.
If the sea level raises 82M I have waterfront property. Somehow I just don't see a downside worth worrying about.
 

petros

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The pike and pickerel fishery has collapsed in Alberta and to a lesser extent in Saskatchewan. Look at government reports. Have a good one; I am off to save the world.
Because of oil and climate change or because of worms?

Happy trails.
 

mentalfloss

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I am not trolling - and the gradient of viewpoints in this thread prove that.
 

darkbeaver

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Education will eventually determine the action and outcome of the climate debate. Since we have already explored the average poorly educated masses we can expect little deviation if any from the straight and narrow path already determined by the globalists filth. The human race faces three major themes these days, Climate change, global war, global economic ruin, all of these are insturments of the new world order and agenda twenty one. The crust must have population reductions.Trimming down to manageable levels ensures the ruling orders survival and nothing else will be considered as suitable.
Climate change in the past has been very fast, glaciers and ice caps have appeared in a matter of days in the past, foliage and animals are often found at the bottom of ice holes which are still edible. Think about what warning and preparation for a problem one hundred and eighty degrees from real will mean in human misery and death.
 

MHz

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I never said I bought anything.
The article souns pretty good to me and could be used as a springboard to further exploration of the subject is the dates like 22 centuries is made flexible.

We have todays current weather patterns and that is when the oceans are as high as they are now. If they reached that level in 10,000BC then a period going further back would see the level drop some 400 ft and that should be enough to explain the weather changes mentioned in the article. Plotting that onto a topo map would let you see if the rainfall moved from one elevation to another and had the people known they would have moved in mass to the place that would be receiving the rain. If the change was rapid (all 400 ft) then coastal places would also have been hit hard just by the rising water, the time that took would have seem steps if it took 40,000 years and not midway steps if it only took 10,000 years.

I'm also pretty sure we have the skills to determine what the weather patterns for the globe were like just by the changes the article mentions.

Education will eventually determine the action and outcome of the climate debate. Since we have already explored the average poorly educated masses we can expect little deviation if any from the straight and narrow path already determined by the globalists filth. The human race faces three major themes these days, Climate change, global war, global economic ruin, all of these are insturments of the new world order and agenda twenty one. The crust must have population reductions.Trimming down to manageable levels ensures the ruling orders survival and nothing else will be considered as suitable.
Climate change in the past has been very fast, glaciers and ice caps have appeared in a matter of days in the past, foliage and animals are often found at the bottom of ice holes which are still edible. Think about what warning and preparation for a problem one hundred and eighty degrees from real will mean in human misery and death.
A sudden snow that never left would be the cause where bodies and flowers got covered in one day, to get the full height it would take longer just based in the amount of water that had to be moved to drop the ocean levels that much.
 

darkbeaver

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Earths shifting magnetic pole is also not considered in the common IPCC garbage presented as scientific research. One should consider mega physical changes like that don't you think? Magnetic North is one of the planets two poles, both are connected to vast birkland current tubes which pump billions of amps into the planet on a permanent basis, these currents provide spin and mass regulation they also cook hydrocarbons and water out of the deep raw rock of the planet. What do the experts say, absolutely nothing, so we should believe nothing the lying bags of dung mouth off about, particularly any CO2 problems cuz there ain't any.
 
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darkbeaver

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A sudden snow that never left would be the cause where bodies and flowers got covered in one day, to get the full height it would take longer just based in the amount of water that had to be moved to drop the ocean levels that much.

First of all the layers in ice cores were once thought to represent annual deposites, this false assumption has been corrected to individual precipitations, storm by storm, so the time frames often quoted for core records are wildly inaccurate. Secondly cold so intense to freeze fresh animal and plant matter is like the cold of space, huge electrical atmospheric currents will do that as well as instant fossilization of plant material, you might goggle fossilized crabs which are frequently found oblate shaped stones, these fossils are amongst the most perfect ever found and they mean instant fossilization.