Site C Dam

[petros]

They need a large water supply for O&G development.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

In a stable power grid you need constant producers (coal, gas, hydro, nuclear) and variable producers (solar, wind) to handle the different types of demand. The variable producers are also not reliable on a cloudy calm day. Solar is also a lot less effective the farther north you go. If you have the ability to put in a hydro site, I think it is good because it beats out coal gas or nuclear for side effects.

Every government lies about everything so you won't know the true cost of anything until it comes from your pocket. And if we are talking about the true cost of the damn, don't forget to look at the true cost of wind and solar (the cost without the government subsidies) to compare.

 

[Hoid]

it never seems like much of a loss until its you losing your home.

 

[JLM]

it never seems like much of a loss until its you losing your home.

And that has what to do with this?

 

[Durry]

If you have the ability to put in a hydro site, I think it is good
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What about the environmental and ecological damage you fool??

I think you eith have a flawed thinking process or you are just plain dumb.

Best you stick with some you know something about.

 

[Cliffy]

A lot of these nay sayers don't know sheep shit from dates!




I hear you Cliffy. Give us the rundown of all the apparatus and equipment needed to get this wave power from the beach to our homes, cars, factories, mills etc. c/w all the costs.

Ask the Brits and Dutch. They already have it in place.

And that has what to do with this?

People lost their homes and farms.

What about the environmental and ecological damage you fool??

I think you eith have a flawed thinking process or you are just plain dumb.

Best you stick with some you know something about.

That's funny coming from the guy who talks out of his Ahole.

 

[Hoid]

And that has what to do with this?

its just an extension of that nimbyism we're always hearing about.

its ok for the government to kick people off their land - as long as it isn't me.

 

[JLM]

People lost their homes and farms.

Without compensation?

The real question is....Have you ever been.....There

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That's right! If you don't have ALL the information you likely have very little!

 

[Cliffy]

Without compensation?

What is compensation to someone who has farmed the land for several generations? Not sure if you are familiar with the Columbia River Treaty back in the 60s when they gave people pennies on the dollar for their property or just confiscated the property of holdouts but the people got royally screwed by Hydro. They also took land that was never flooded and are now trying to sell it at dollars on the penny. Those people in the Peace will never be able to reestablish farms like the ones they had. And, of course, as usual, the indigenous people get the royal shaft. We don't need this dam. We need alternatives that do not impact the land adversely. We have the tech but the ruling elite lack the imagination. They really don't give a fukk about anybody but themselves. Anybody who thinks they are going to benefit from this are in for a rude awakening when they discover that they are just as disposable as the worn out machinery at the end of the project. Do idiots like taxslave really think the money behind this project give a flying fukk if he lives or dies feeding their bank accounts?

 

[captain morgan]

What is compensation to someone who has farmed the land for several generations? Not sure if you are familiar with the Columbia River Treaty back in the 60s when they gave people pennies on the dollar for their property or just confiscated the property of holdouts but the people got royally screwed by Hydro. They also took land that was never flooded and are now trying to sell it at dollars on the penny. Those people in the Peace will never be able to reestablish farms like the ones they had. And, of course, as usual, the indigenous people get the royal shaft. We don't need this dam. We need alternatives that do not impact the land adversely. We have the tech but the ruling elite lack the imagination. They really don't give a fukk about anybody but themselves. Anybody who thinks they are going to benefit from this are in for a rude awakening when they discover that they are just as disposable as the worn out machinery at the end of the project. Do idiots like taxslave really think the money behind this project give a flying fukk if he lives or dies feeding their bank accounts?

Exactly what is the tech that you propose will replace the Dam

 

[taxslave]

With a coast like BC's, we could have tidal power and we have tones of geothermal. Site C destroyed thousands of acres of good, productive farm land. We needed it more than a dam since the lower main land has buried its farm land under condos and golf courses.

In theory yes. Tidal generators are not being built in the size range required not are they without their own environmental problems. Also can you see the nut bars that have infested my coast going along with these things in our"pristine waters"? How about Harrison Hot Springs being turned into a power plant? You see the problems?

for many reasons

1) it rewards the previous government for lying about all the original costs and for unapproved spending. They basically created a fait accompli by investing so much in site C we said **** it - too late to change now

2) it is the exact opposite of the trend - it a mega generation when the world is turning towards smaller more distributed generation.

3) wtf is it with BC and mega projects anyway? BC does nothing for decades then decides to do everything at once in massive move. When has that ever worked out for us?

i could go on. I will add when I dream up some more.

when you compare what BC is doing to what Australia just did with tesla it makes BC look like a bunch of idiots.


yes to all of this.

it also is doing it all to support Christie Clarkes pie in the sky natural gas production which she won a reelection on by telling BC she would pay off all public debt through natural gas profits - and then someone invented fracking and natural gas beca,e next to worthless.


and still we go with the power plant for it all.

all these projections made on false data.

Have you ever read anything other than fake news?

Someone up the food chain at BC Hydro spent all sorts of time lying about the relative costs of various generating options. They teamed up with the BC Liberals party to foist the Site C dam on the public. Because they know better.

The funniest part is all the righties who now support the Site C and it's destruction of family farms and government appropriation of privates lands.

That is hilarious or is it only natural that they support lying and cheating in public officials since that's how its done in oil and gas?

ROFLMFAO. You just beat out flossy for stupidest post of the year. THe government bought all the farmland over 30 years ago. It isn't even that good of farmland even between snowstorms.

What about the environmental and ecological damage you fool??

I think you eith have a flawed thinking process or you are just plain dumb.

Best you stick with some you know something about.

Zero environmental damage.The dam also works for flood control. Nor ongoing damage that even the best gas generator causes. No fuel costs either.Your gas generator will burn a lot more than 7 billion in fuel over the next 100 years.

 

[pgs]

its just an extension of that nimbyism we're always hearing about.

its ok for the government to kick people off their land - as long as it isn't me.

Well your idol Pierre Elliot Trudeau refused to put property rights in his charter of rights and freedoms . So blame him .

 

[Twin_Moose]

Why John Horgan deserves credit for going ahead with Site C

 

[Hoid]

Why John Horgan deserves credit for going ahead with Site C

Thesis statement from your reference:

"Let’s start with what is clear about Site C

Site C should never have started in the first place."

I could not agree more and neither can anyone who understands this story.

If you somehow support the Site C dam project it means you aren't very smart ie a BC Liberal

 

[Twin_Moose]

Thesis statement from your reference:

"Let’s start with what is clear about Site C

Site C should never have started in the first place."

I could not agree more and neither can anyone who understands this story.

If you somehow support the Site C dam project it means you aren't very smart ie a BC Liberal

I just found the article interesting and I have nothing to do with B.C., besides working in their Oil patch a few times. If the future of B.C. needs more power what is wronge with a Hydro-dam? Better to build it now and install the transmission line to the areas that will be short on power in the near future as well as supplying the O&G industry in both B.C. and Alta. very profitable.

 

[Durry]

The Dam provides little energy for the costs involved.

Gas Wells are a much much better and cheaper option.
BC is screwing this up big time.

 

[Hoid]

Gas wells are less profitable every day.

It is a market that is already over-supplied - as electricity is becoming

 

[Twin_Moose]

The Dam provides little energy for the costs involved.

Gas Wells are a much much better and cheaper option.
BC is screwing this up big time.

Short term I agree with you and the abundance of Gas in Canada it does make sense, but long term Hydro is cheaper and more reliable.