Should Trudeau Be More Aggressive with Albertchewan?

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Is it time to sue these provinces for their climate inaction?

They are disproportionately causing harm to the environment and the rest of the country is having to pay for it.

They should be paying the carbon tax at double the rate of other provinces.
 

taxslave

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Ontariowe and Quebec have to start paying their fair share and clean up their pollution.
I see a concrete plant in Quebec is not covered by environmental rules and pays no carbon tax despite being a heavy polluter while a pipeline in Alberta pays a carbon tax while creates no carbon footprint.
 

Ron in Regina

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Is it time to sue these provinces for their climate inaction?

They are disproportionately causing harm to the environment and the rest of the country is having to pay for it.

They should be paying the carbon tax at double the rate of other provinces.
Yeah, sure. Why not? Because that's going so well so far. Just take it out of the Equalization Dollars being shipped to Quebec.
 

Twin_Moose

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Yep good idea to pick on 1/3 of the Canadian economy and one of the only industries bringing new money into Canada, not recycled money like tourism or manufacturing.
 

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Trudeau should simply shut up and resign. He's a disgrace to our country and is nothing but an airhead! He's mean, he's argumentative, he lies and he has absolutely no integrity. The Canadians who did vote for him need to give their heads a shake!


He's not and never will be PM material as he's a selfish, egotistical man who has no view of anyone or anywhere but himself and who surrounds himself with people who are in awe of him. He's a disgusting individual period!


Just sayin....
 

Dixie Cup

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Is it time to sue these provinces for their climate inaction?

They are disproportionately causing harm to the environment and the rest of the country is having to pay for it.

They should be paying the carbon tax at double the rate of other provinces.



And you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, that is plain to see!
 

Jinentonix

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Is it time to sue these provinces for their climate inaction?

They are disproportionately causing harm to the environment and the rest of the country is having to pay for it.

They should be paying the carbon tax at double the rate of other provinces.
No, they shouldn't. The IPCC admitted last year that all their climate alarmism is bullshit. Mind you it took 500 scientists signing a strongly worded letter and the World Meteorological Association to get them to finally admit it.



So Flosshole, why do you insist on perpetuating the lie of AGW, now that it's been exposed for what it is? According the IPCC's own climate models, the world is supposed to be an average of 4 degrees warmer than it is right now. Sea ice extents are measured based on 1979 levels, a year that saw the highest sea ice extent in the Arctic in over 50 years. So, your alarmist heroes took that anomalous year's data and decided to use it as their base point. Or, "The hottest years on record" is another fun claim. Apparently the "record" only goes back to around 1850. And oddly enough, that's around the time the LIA ended. And although I know things like math and science are really difficult for you leftard types, the physics is easily explainable. When it's no longer cold, things warm up.


So here's a thought. F*ck off with your extremist-alarmist lies and crawl back under whatever rock you were under for the last year or so.
 

Ron in Regina

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...Or, "The hottest years on record" is another fun claim. Apparently the "record" only goes back to around 1850...
Actually, at least for Canada, the first 100 or so years of actual records since about 1850 have been scrubbed 'cuz they don't fit the AGW predictive models going forward, so they're using the Models going forward to replace that first hundred years of actual records with modeled records to fit the narrative. I know this sounds surreal but google it. With this fiction, the claims of hottest years (when the actual hottest years are discounted) become the new (but fictional) reality.
 

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Ontariowe and Quebec have to start paying their fair share and clean up their pollution.
I see a concrete plant in Quebec is not covered by environmental rules and pays no carbon tax despite being a heavy polluter while a pipeline in Alberta pays a carbon tax while creates no carbon footprint.
Why does 'Alberta' not fund a team of investigators that can look deeply into what is going on 'down East' if SNC went undetected and to-date, unpunished. It would be career suicide unless the 'rumors' led to some confessions and the place actually being cleaned up of the criminals that are at the root of 'the West wanting out of Canada'.

If it came to that 'we' should 'take a lot more land than just what the AB borders are. Sea to Sea, Alburkistan anything north of the 53rd. Taxes paid directly to the trustee, the World Bank with UN Troops 'keeping the peace'. Pay the interest without qualm and all would be good with them. (maybe wholesale prices on the diamonds and other 'gems' buried in the cold ground)





Lefty Frizzell.... "Saginaw Michigan" - 1964


 

MHz

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Actually, at least for Canada, the first 100 or so years of actual records since about 1850 have been scrubbed 'cuz they don't fit the AGW predictive models going forward, so they're using the Models going forward to replace that first hundred years of actual records with modeled records to fit the narrative. I know this sounds surreal but google it. With this fiction, the claims of hottest years (when the actual hottest years are discounted) become the new (but fictional) reality.
The are records from many ports that are as accurate as the day they were recorded. What is lacking is the desire to feed all that data into a spreadsheet that is readable.
As an example of how bright we aren't. The search for Atlantis says they are on the 'other side of the Strait of Gibraltar'. If you were on a boat in the Atlantic and the straights were in front of you would Atlantis be what we currently call the Med Sea (back in the day it was a fresh water Sea)

Youtube also has lots of data, what you have to do is ignore some of the summations made. That would apply to series such as 'How the Earth was Made', the visuals are top notch, what is needed is a summation put together by honest professionals rather than ones that will say anything for a dollar.
Adapy2030 covers the ice-ages in some detail and there are many vids to watch. I tend to not see sunspots as having as much effect in weather in any age, let alone being able to alter it so it becomes an extinction level event.


Think of it as a way for 'them' to pump more money into the economy rather than all those people with jobs that are doing useless things sitting at home. Hemp is a dead industry in North America. As the use of oil lessens that reduces the amount of raw material available for new plastics. If the same money that was pumped into going to the moon was pumped into the Canadian Prairies to diversify crops into growing hemp at an industrial level. Keeping things fair the processing and manufacturing end would be split with the other Provinces as the goods made would have a local market as well as an international one. If big oil isn't planning any cutbacks before 2025 then getting the funding would be impossible, after that they would be happy to arrange the $50B loan @ 6% interest to get that industry past the R&D stage so it can stand on it's own as an industry. Until the the CIA can run heroin without getting in as much trouble as a farmer growing 1/4 section of hemp.


When they are also 'your competition' things will grow at a snail's pace rather than there is no future in that as a crop let alone a money making industry.
 

Ron in Regina

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Google "fake news"
Please do. Please post a LINK to disprove my claim.


“The historical data is not observed historical data,” the spokesman said. “It is modelled historical data … 24 models from historical simulations spanning 1950 to 2005 were used.”

These computer simulations are part of the federal government’s ClimateData.ca website launched by Environment Minister Catherine McKenna on Aug. 15.

She described it as “an important next step in giving our decision-makers even greater access to important climate data for long-term planning. The more each of us uses this type of information, the more it will help.”
 
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Serryah

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I've already had people from the West tell me Trudeau is both a terrorist and Dictator.


... I get that the West has issues, but come the f on...
 

Hoid

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I've already had people from the West tell me Trudeau is both a terrorist and Dictator.


... I get that the West has issues, but come the f on...
they just ruin public discourse

they are why nobody is allowed to comment on most of the stories on the CBC
 

B00Mer

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....says the socialist pretending to be a conservative

Fukk you're dumb, I'm very Conservative.

Pro Gun, Anti abortion, more justice for victims, and longer terms, pro business..

I think my only socialist belief is the Health Care for all.. but still wish Canada would have a co-pay added on..

See your local doctor $25
Urgent care $50
Emergency $100

The doctor or facility gets to keep the co-pay for equipment upgrades, staffing and so on..

Slight I incentive to see a family doctor vs using emergency services for a Fukking Cold..

Simple economics, you wouldn't understand