Should terrorists and their supporters lose their Canadian citizenship?

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Its still all Provincial ID except in the case of a citizenship card.
The birth certificate is enough to get a passport. Doesn't matter if it's provincial. If it's good enough to get a passport, then it is also good enough to prove citizenship. Used to be good enough to drive to and from the USA as well.
 
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Is that still an opera term? I know the practise is banned, & I’ve heard the one surviving recording of one… But you’re the first person I’ve ever actually seen use the term outside of that opera application.
It means "people who have been castrated." It's Italian. I thought it more concise and elegant than the English "nutless motherfuckers."
 

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In order to have this debate, the below questions first have to be answered:

What’s a “Terrorist” & who gets to define who is a “Terrorist” or what’s a “Terrorist” organization, etc…?

If it is each individual nation, fine. Then each individual nation can work that definition into their immigration and naturalization legislation and govern themselves accordingly.

If it’s something else, like the UN, or some other non-national entity, then that has to be factored in.
Nah, it doesn't. Fuck the UN. They are an utter joke of an organization/quasi-govt body. Any non-national entity that acts as some kind of governing authority but wasn't elected by any citizens anywhere is illegitimate as far as I'm concerned and not worth listening to.
 
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Nah, it doesn't. Fuck the UN. They are an utter joke of an organization/quasi-govt body. Any non-national entity that acts as some kind of governing authority but wasn't elected by any citizens anywhere is illegitimate as far as I'm concerned and not worth listening to.

By non-national you mean... what exactly?

I also think you don't get what the UN is - supposed to anyway - be for. It was never meant to be some sort of Governing body over nations/the world.
 

Ron in Regina

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By non-national you mean... what exactly?

I also think you don't get what the UN is - supposed to anyway - be for. It was never meant to be some sort of Governing body over nations/the world.
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As past experience shows, there are several factors that are essential for a successful peacekeeping operation. It must:
  • Be guided by the principles of consent, impartiality and the non-use of force except in self-defense and defense of the mandate;
  • Be perceived as legitimate and credible, particularly in the eyes of the local population;
  • Promote national and local ownership of the peace process in the host country.
Other important factors that help drive success include:
  • Genuine commitment to a political process by the parties in working towards peace (there must be a peace to keep);
  • Clear, credible and achievable mandates, with matching personnel, logistic and financial resources;
  • Unity of purpose within the Security Council, with active support to UN operations in the field;
  • Host country commitment to unhindered UN operations and freedom of movement;
  • Supportive engagement by neighbouring countries and regional actors;
  • An integrated UN approach, effective coordination with other actors on the ground and good communication with host country authorities and population;
  • The utmost sensitivity towards the local population and upholding the highest standards of professionalism and good conduct (peacekeepers must avoid becoming part of the problem).
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Jinentonix

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By non-national you mean... what exactly?

I also think you don't get what the UN is - supposed to anyway - be for. It was never meant to be some sort of Governing body over nations/the world.
Oh Serryah. I know exactly what the UN was intended to be, but it took mere weeks to become a total goat fuck. But I'm talking about the General Assembly. Countries like China chairing the Human Rights Committee or Saudi Arabia chairing the Women's Rights Committee. Or Robert Mugabe being the UN's Ambassador of Tourism. Or how China is a signatory of UNCLOS despite not being on the GA yet the UN continually looks the other way when it comes to the South China Sea, the territorial waters of other poor countries and internationally declared protected areas. Why bother having treaties and agreements and shit if you're only going to selectively enforce them?

Where's the UN when it comes to the Houthis attacking merchant shipping in the Red Sea? That's a global issue. At least do something about something real instead of chasing the AGW boogey man like they're Scooby fucking Doo or something.
Yeah sure, the UN will send Peacekeepers into a full-fledged war zone (former Yugoslavia to be exact, although they were prevented from stopping any ethnic cleansing going on) but won't do jack-shit about merchant shipping being attacked in the Red Sea.