Should terrorists and their supporters lose their Canadian citizenship?
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What’s a “Terrorist” & who gets to define who is a “Terrorist” or what’s a “Terrorist” organization, etc…?
One is now a Canadian, should he be allowed to retain is Citizenship?
If you join a terrorist group or if Canada is at war with ISIS and you fight against Canada, should you keep your citizenship?
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B.C. woman who travelled to Syria to join ISIS charged with terrorism offences, says RCMP
The BC RCMP says it has charged Kimberly Polman with terrorism offences relating to an investigation into her leaving Canada to join ISIS.
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In order to have this debate, the below questions first have to be answered:
What’s a “Terrorist” & who gets to define who is a “Terrorist” or what’s a “Terrorist” organization, etc…?
If it is each individual nation, fine. Then each individual nation can work that definition into their immigration and naturalization legislation and govern themselves accordingly.
If it’s something else, like the UN, or some other non-national entity, then that has to be factored in.
What’s a “Terrorist” & who gets to define who is a “Terrorist” or what’s a “Terrorist” organization, etc…?
If it is each individual nation, fine. Then each individual nation can work that definition into their immigration and naturalization legislation and govern themselves accordingly.
If it’s something else, like the UN, or some other non-national entity, then that has to be factored in.
If the Government of Canada recognizes certain factions as a terrorist group.. list attached below
List of organizations designated as terrorist by Canada - Wikipedia
...and as a Canadian citizen you join them and act against Canadians in a terrorist plot or fight against Canada's military.. should you still retain your citizenship??
Exactly; without clear definitions of these things, it's "Terrorists are people we don't "like"" and that's it.
If the Government of Canada recognizes certain factions as a terrorist group.. list attached below
List of organizations designated as terrorist by Canada - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
So... you are okay with the Government telling you who/what is a terrorist organization, but not okay with it telling you other things in your life.
Not that I disagree with you; looked at the list, don't see any on there to argue against.
But yeah, rather... inconsistent of you, Boom.
If you're born in Canada you're a citizen, full stop.
If you support, plot with, work with or anything else - and proven so, AND you are old enough to understand what that all means/entails to you and your life - you certainly deserve your day in court to prove yourself, and if found guilty, shut away and never see light again. That said, it also has to be real justice and not a biased court, hidden agenda, or an actual legitimate proceedings. It's not justice if you don't get to defend yourself, or if the case wouldn't hold up in any sort of 'normal' proceedings of law (ie no torture/duress for any admissions, no misconduct of judges or lawyers or anything else that'd get any other kind of court case thrown out).
Terrorists and their supporters are pieces of shit, but until they're proven so in court, saying so without it proven is just asking for trouble/bullshit for everyone involved.
If they were granted their citizenship by deception or fraud, it should be revoked.
If you join a terrorist group or if Canada is at war with ISIS and you fight against Canada, should you keep your citizenship?
B.C. woman who travelled to Syria to join ISIS charged with terrorism offences, says RCMP
The BC RCMP says it has charged Kimberly Polman with terrorism offences relating to an investigation into her leaving Canada to join ISIS.
In the specific circumstance if you fight with someone fighting against Canada, that is Treason. Citizenship should be revoked for Treason.
As to terrorists, I agree with the others. The term is to vague. And the people defining the term in the legal sense would be the government. With today's government, the result would be a whole bunch of truckers losing their citizenship but not much else.
If it’s your only citizenship, it can’t be revoked because somebody’s gotta take you.
If somebody has dual citizenship, you can revoke their Canadian citizenship, they still have somewhere they can and have to go, etc…but then you have to convince their host country or whatever do you want to call it that they still have citizenship too to actually take them!!! Good luck.
Are you sure.. Shamima Begum is now stateless.
Shamima Begum loses appeal against removal of British citizenship
Begum is now effectively stateless and will likely stay in a detention camp in Syria for the foreseeable future.
Then there's the question: If you strip the terrorist of his/her/thee/they/them/thou/whatever citizenship, where do you send them ?
Back to the place that inspired them?
I'm all for throwing them in a hole for the rest of their life, minus the virtue signaling.
Back to the place that inspired them?
I'm all for throwing them in a hole for the rest of their life, minus the virtue signaling.
Zelenskyy has been assassinated. Sorry for the bad news.
You are what Putin is trying to rid Ukraine of, the NAZI's
One person’s terrorist is another one’s freedom fighter, etc…& that’s the reason I asked for the definitions up front and who decides whom is a terrorist or what is a terrorist entity, etc…If the Government of Canada recognizes certain factions as a terrorist group.. list attached below
List of organizations designated as terrorist by Canada - Wikipedia
...and as a Canadian citizen you join them and act against Canadians in a terrorist plot or fight against Canada's military.. should you still retain your citizenship??
OK, so let’s find Anyone with an Israeli passport on the below list for Canada:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_as_terrorist_by_Canada
Now, if you’re a citizen of Bolivia, Iran, Lebanon, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, or Yemen…you’d be looking a different entities on their national lists.
Zelenskyy has been assassinated. Sorry for the bad news.
You are what Putin is trying to rid Ukraine of, the NAZI's
Do you have a passport? If no, you dont havd any ID that say Ron is Canadian.
Are you Canadian?