Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederation

[cortezzz]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Finder,

I don't know about this Paradox fellow.

He is an admitedly Gay French Speaking Canadian, and therefore gets lots of recognition and benefits with Canada as we have become today that are not enjoyed in most other countries.

He is therefore prepared to suggest that the children of Non-French Canadians to go and kill and get killed by going to war to protect the two precious oraffices he relies upon to define himself.

As a Canadian myself, I vote to allow military intervention in Quebec but only using openly Gay soldiers who speak French fluidly... then let loose the dogs of war over Quebec.

actually people like you -iamcanadian--are the problem

french canadians are cool
more of them go to the trouble to learn english than we to learn french
and though im not gay iether
gays are cool too
to each his own

and these groups are not getting any special treatment as you suggest

vive le quebec
vive la france
long live ireland
and canada too

 

[Machjo]

Well there is nothing common between English and French, they are two different laungage groups. French being Latin-Romantic and English being Germanic. So no matter what tongue we both chose to learn it would be just as hard for us to communicate. I admit my failing in mastering French. I try and I can communigate enough to get by when need be and or take a pick up course and be able to speak enough for a trip to Quebec now and then.

But yeah, no way we can learn a root tongue which would be easy for us to both pick up.

Wrong. Check this out:

I'll give you a text and explain the roots underneath each sentence. See how long it takes you to figure it out. It just might shock you how easy it is compared to French. And on top of that, every letter has one sound, always:

La tago alproksimiĝas kiam ĉiuj popoloj de la mondo akceptos universalan lingvon kaj komunan skribon.

la the tag/o day -o (noun) al to proksim/a close(adj.) -iĝ- become -as (present simple) kiam when ĉiu each -j (plural) ĉiuj all popolo people de of mond/o world akcept/i accept -os (future simple) universal/a universal -n (accusative) lingv/o language kaj and komun/a commun -a (adjective)(possesssive) skrib/o script

Kiam tio estas atingita, ĉiu homo, kiun ajn urbon li eniros, kvazaŭ eniros en sian propran domon.

kiam when tio that est/i be ating/i achieve -it- (past passive) hom/o man, human kiu which ajn whatsoever urb/o city, town li he en in ir/i go si own, self propr/a own dom/o home, house

Tiu vere estas homo kiu hodiaŭ dediĉas sin al la servo al la tuta homaro.

ver/o truth -e (adverb) hodiaŭ today dediĉ/i dedicate serv/o service tut/a whole, total -ar- (collective)

Ne gloru sin tiu, kiu amas sian propran landon, sed tiu, kiu amas la tutan homaron.

ne not, no glor/o pride, glory -u (imperative)(volative)

La tero estas nur unu lando, kaj ĉiuj homoj ĝiaj civitanoj.

ter/o earth nur but, only unu land/o country ĝi it civit/o city(-state) -an- member civit-an-o citizen

 

[Machjo]

Oh, sorry:

tiu= that one

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Oh, sorry:

tiu= that one

Thanks for clearing that one up, I was beginning to wonder about you. j/k

What was that anyway, Spanish?

 

[Machjo]

A few other concrete examples of this language:

I am/mi estas
you are/vi estas
he/she/it is/li/ŝi/ĝi estas
we are/ni estas
you are/vi estas
they are/ili estas

mi estas/I am as present simple
mi estis/I was is past simple
mi estos/I shall be os future simple
estu!/be! u imperative
estus/would be us conditional
esti/to be i indefinite

-o noun
-a adjective
-e adverb

simio monkey
simia simian
simie in a monkey-like manner

okulo eye
okula ocular
okule (of an action) in an eye-like manner

suno sun
suna solar
sune in a sun-like manner

luno moon
luna lunar
lune in a moon-like manner

in = feminine

patro father patrino mother
frato brother fratino sister
koko rooster kokino hen

ar- collective
homo man homaro mankind
ŝafo sheep ŝafaro a herd of sheep
fiŝo fish fiŝaro a shool of fish
lupo wolf luparo a pack of wolves

mal- opposite

fermi close malfermi open
varma warm malvarma cool
granda big malgranda small

il tool

tranĉi to cut tranĉilo knife
komputi compute komputilo computer
aviadi 'aviate' aviadilo aeroplane
flugi fly flugilo wing

ej location

lerni learn lernejo school
aŭtomobilo car aŭtomobilejo garage
hundo dog hundejo doghouse

I can give plenty more examples, but I think this suffices to prove that this language is far easier to elarn than either Frensh or English

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Oh, sorry:

tiu= that one

Thanks for clearing that one up, I was beginning to wonder about you. j/k

What was that anyway, Spanish?

That's your first guess. keep trying. First hint: it's probably the easiest language one could choose to learn.

 

[cortezzz]

that is definitely not
spanish

my geuss is that its esparanto!!
which in spanish-- means hope

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Great thread Canadian with a hyphen. I remember I was in Quebec on a French course when the Referendym was held. At that time members of the Bloc send out letters to soldiers in their constituency offering them a place in a new Quebec military. It smacked of treason and desertion.

Should we go to war if quebec separates. Nope I would guess it will become a peace keeping hot spot as the Native People in the region will not lie down for the fascist and racist factions of the separtist movement.

There will be an uprising, of this I am sure. Our hand will likely be forced if this bunch gets their way, but not to defend but to separate.

M

 

[Said1]

Italian.

Final answer.

 

[iamcanadian]

Ok, keep picking on me rather than my views. It just shows who the real cone heads are.

I have not issue with French People or the French Language per se. It is no better or worse than any other language. The issue I have is with what the French Speaking Canadians are doing with the excuse of advancing and protecting the French Language, which results in the existing Steriotype they have created for themselves that many people recognize. Not just me. Though I may be galvanized more over it than many by my own unique personal experience with French Speaking Canadian Bureaucrats and Politicians I have had great involvement with over many years.

I made the point of pointing out that Paradox is biased on the view of war in Canada over Quebec separation. (a war that is a completely fictitious assuption that will never come to pass regardless what happens because Canadians are overly passive by nature)

I pointed out the two forms of bias. One being Gay gives him no stake in the welfare of Children (people under 25 years old) who are the ones that tend to die most in any war;

AND Two, expecting people to fight for the advantages obtained by nothing more than a tonge which generates vibrations in the air that people either understand or don't.

My view is that people should all be working toward everyonee speaking a common language for equality and fairrness.

 

[FiveParadox]

Good to know that being gay invalidates my opinion.

Thanks for letting me know. On that note, you can quite thoroughly go to Hell.

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Ok, keep picking on me rather than my views. It just shows who the real cone heads are.

I have not issue with French People or the French Language per se. It is no better or worse than any other language. The issue I have is with what the French Speaking Canadians are doing with the excuse of advancing and protecting the French Language, which results in the existing Steriotype they have created for themselves that many people recognize. Not just me. Though I may be galvanized more over it than many by my own unique personal experience with French Speaking Canadian Bureaucrats and Politicians I have had great involvement with over many years.

I made the point of pointing out that Paradox is biased on the view of war in Canada over Quebec separation. (a war that is a completely fictitious assuption that will never come to pass regardless what happens because Canadians are overly passive by nature)

I pointed out the two forms of bias. One being Gay gives him no stake in the welfare of Children (people under 25 years old) who are the ones that tend to die most in any war;

AND Two, expecting people to fight for the advantages obtained by nothing more than a tonge which generates vibrations in the air that people either understand or don't.

My view is that people should all be working toward everyonee speaking a common language for equality and fairrness.

Whatever.
Shut up.
Go away.
You suck.

I know we've been encouraged to respond with more respect, but in some cases, it's clearly not deserving. Esepecially when one cries about their character being picked on, after having done the same very thing, prior.

 

[Kreskin]

There's an old saying around here...be nice or be caned by Kreskin. OK it's a new saying.

Attack the post not the poster please.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Good to know that being gay invalidates my opinion.

Thanks for letting me know. On that note, you can quite thoroughly go to Hell.

Heck now you know how feels to be conservative in the Toronto area Five?

Hope things are well with you.
M

PS I am surrounded by Liberals, uggghh I'm already in hell. LOL

 

[Hank C]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

Good to know that being gay invalidates my opinion.

Thanks for letting me know. On that note, you can quite thoroughly go to Hell.

Heck now you know how feels to be conservative in the Toronto area Five?

Hope things are well with you.
M

PS I am surrounded by Liberals, uggghh I'm already in hell. LOL

I couldent even image that RCS.....why dont you move to Alberta. :wink:

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I AM CANADIAN: I pointed out the two forms of bias. One being Gay gives him no stake in the welfare of Children (people under 25 years old) who are the ones that tend to die most in any war;

What does this mean. Do you think there aren't any gay soldiers, gay brothers and sisters of soldiers, gay parents? I can tell that I have met afew over the years.

No names no pack drill, but for example.A soldier I went through Boot Camp with (an outstanding NCO) is gay. One of my troopers had to be sent overseas because his gay brother was dying of Aids.

If you think that the gay community doesn't have a stake in our military or it's success I'd have to say that you are duly misinformed my friend.

Cheers
M
Member of the Heretosexual Mens Club since 1965

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

My view is that people should all be working toward everyonee speaking a common language for equality and fairrness.

I take it that that language must be YOUR language?

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

that is definitely not
spanish

my geuss is that its esparanto!!
which in spanish-- means hope

Yup! espero means hope. -ant- is a suffix indicating the present continuous or one who is doingsuch a present continuous action. Thus Esperanto can, depending on context, be translated as "hoping" or, "one who hopes" or" he who hopes". It was Dr. Zamenhof's pseudonym.

Effectively, Esperanto is a language designed by conscious creation to be easy to learn. No exceptions to any of its rules, all of them being carried out to they fullest logical conclusion. This thus makes Esperanto between 5 and 20 times easier to learn than any national tongue.

 

[Machjo]

IamCanadian. Just curious. Do you know any other language?

 

[Said1]

Re: RE: Should Military be used to keep Quebec in confederat

that is definitely not
spanish

my geuss is that its esparanto!!
which in spanish-- means hope

Yup! espero means hope. -ant- is a suffix indicating the present continuous or one who is doingsuch a present continuous action. Thus Esperanto can, depending on context, be translated as "hoping" or, "one who hopes" or" he who hopes". It was Dr. Zamenhof's pseudonym.

Effectively, Esperanto is a language designed by conscious creation to be easy to learn. No exceptions to any of its rules, all of them being carried out to they fullest logical conclusion. This thus makes Esperanto between 5 and 20 times easier to learn than any national tongue.

Well, if that just doesn't tick me right off. Cortezz is right and I'm wrong. Hmmp! It's that magic goat giving him all the answers, I know it!


@Retired-Canadian-Soldier - well said. It's the person that counts, at the end of the day, not their choice of sex partners. A little compassion goes a long way. Love your avatar too, I'm a huge Johnny Cash fan!