we have become a society of gripers. instead of calling ourselves earthlings we should change it to griplings.
Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka?
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IMO.
The first duty of a free people is to insure that all of it's citizens share in that freedom.
If that means outlawing immoral, homophobic and misogynous religions like Christianity and Islam, I am all in for that.
The Islamic head and face wear is a tool of oppression and for any free society to tolerate it is to collude with slave owners and promote misogyny and a two class citizenry and I think Christianity has sowed down or progress towards civilization and I do not think we should regress by allowing Islam to bring it`s slave owning policies to any free nation.
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DL
The first duty of a free person is to enjoy that freedom. If it's good enough, you'll attract free attention. If you impose it, it ain't freedom
Self centred and does not show a social conscience.
"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”
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DL
You figure imposing your "freedom" on someone else is a good thing? If it's truly free, nobody should have it forced upon them
True but if a freedom is being denied women by a slave owning religion, then it is our duty as a free people to free those within our borders.
Further, it is our duty to also protect Muslim women from abuses by our own people who see head gear as belonging to those who promote Jihad and slavery.
Like it or not, Islamophobia will continue to rise.
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DL
We have a duty to preserve our security - NOT to tell people how they have to dress. If it's freedom they want, they'll take it free
The security of Muslim women is in jeopardy as the reputation Islam is getting world wide is not a glowing one.
Cases of ‘hijabaphobia’ increasing in Quebec - Montreal | Globalnews.ca
Further,
Sharia in Canada - 1st Part - Something to Fear? by Dominique Cardona - NFB
Canadians will not tolerate our systems to be threatened.
Hate Islam, love Muslims who wish to be Canadian.
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DL
Who are you to determine if the security of Muslim women is in jeopardy? That would be for the jeopardized to decide. How do you know your way is the right way and their way is wrong? It's their choice. That's freedom. For purposes of identification and security, nobody is free.
Who are you to say I am wrong?
I do not claim to be right. I am giving my opinion and history will determine who is right and wrong and if Canada want a homophobic and misogynist religion running the country, they will decide.
I for one respect women too much to ever vote for those you seem to support.
I have given a lot of information including women from within Islam speaking against their ways.
If you have anything to offer then please do.
Your politically correct rhetoric does not phase me in the least, --- but facts might.
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DL
Sorry.... Did you read wrong or did you want to read wrong?
Your assumption. How does my don't-give-a-damn equate to support? Is live and let live too complicated for you?
Then they've made up their own minds, haven't they? That's freedom
What would it matter? Seems your mind is set and if I disagree, I can only be wrong. Some freedom....
Politically correct isn't truth. Imposing your willfully narrow mind on others is just as wrong. Practice as you preach....
I find it rather disheartening that in Western Culture, after the advances in human rights that have just been made in the last century, people are so utterly gutless when it comes to being branded as racist or anti Muslim.
The argument that it is the "woman's choice" is the same argument made in a lot of cases of abuse.
We live in a society where women are considered equals, therefore these rags of oppression should be completely unacceptable in this society.
The argument that it is the "woman's choice" is the same argument made in a lot of cases of abuse.
We live in a society where women are considered equals, therefore these rags of oppression should be completely unacceptable in this society.
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It may be needed that we go further than that.
This following is related in a sense of the bigger picture.
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DL
There is considerable disagreement in how much advance the western world has made in human rights, how enthusiastic the power classes were about making that advance, and whether it intends to keep advancing.
Does that render the argument invalid? Should women be denied choices because some make horribly bad choices?
I disagree. While women have, as you say, made great strides over the last century or so, there is still considerable disagreement over whether or not they are equals.
For example, I see you advocating banning things that only women wear. One might wonder whether you would be equally anxious to ban things that religious men wear, like yarmukles, or the "four-cornered undergarment" of Orthodox Jews, or the beards that many Muslims consider mandatory, or the turbans of Sikh men.