Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?

Would you support banning Islam as it's described in the OP?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 4 10.3%
  • No.

    Votes: 32 82.1%
  • Other answer.

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39

Ulgundo

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Thankfully we have Police, Military and several thousand well armed citizens that would make short work of the religiously stupid...;-)
Well as the history has tought us preventing a terrorist atack is almost impossible,i mean you cant put a fully armed counter-terrorist unit on every street
 

Machjo

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Oct 19, 2004
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So we have at least three bigots on these forums who'd like to criminalize so much as identifying oneself as a Muslim.

Not bad. I thought we more wackos than that on these forums, but I guess it's just that those three were loud enough to just make it seem that way.
 

Machjo

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Oct 19, 2004
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Good grief, Machjo, I think this is way over the top. Where do you draw the line on banning the freedom of someone to practice the religion of their choice. Muslims today, and Wiccans next.

And you thought it was way over the top. So did I. And yet it still got three votes.8O
 

CDNBear

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Sep 24, 2006
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So we have at least three bigots on these forums who'd like to criminalize so much as identifying oneself as a Muslim.
Yep, and one day you'll either thank us, or have to eat your words.

I'll just cite Europe for my proof...;-)

I'd die for my country, as she stands. If people want to come here and join us, fine. If they want to come here and bring the sh!t that made their country a sh!t hole. F!ck that, I'll die first.

Not bad. I thought we more wackos than that on these forums, but I guess it's just that those three were loud enough to just make it seem that way.
Hey Machjo, I'll wear the bigot label, because I am, even though I still don't discriminate. But if you want to get into name calling, you've lost the argument.

How is selling the country out for the ideology of the multicult, sane?
 

JLM

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So we have at least three bigots on these forums who'd like to criminalize so much as identifying oneself as a Muslim.

Not bad. I thought we more wackos than that on these forums, but I guess it's just that those three were loud enough to just make it seem that way.

That's a bit of a leap. There's terrorist Muslims and law abiding Muslims, I doubt if anyone would want to interfere with the law abiding ones and one would naturally assume that those weren't the ones in question. That demonstrates one of the problems with polls- a lot depends on just how the question is asked............:smile:
 

taxslave

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It is not islam that is the problem. It is a few evil people have taken over a religion and perverted it for their own gain. Read the koran, it is not near as wacky as the christian bible but the same result as happened in the past with christians, as few evil people have perverted a relatively harmless myth into a form of repression for their own end.
 

CDNBear

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That's a bit of a leap. There's terrorist Muslims and law abiding Muslims, I doubt if anyone would want to interfere with the law abiding ones and one would naturally assume that those weren't the ones in question.
I personally think Islam should be banned outright in Canada, period.
 

YukonJack

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Dec 26, 2008
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Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?


ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

In spite of howls to the contrary, Canada and the United States are still CHRISTIAN countries.

So, in all fairness, Muslims MUST be allowed to practice their faith in their adopted CHRISTIAN countries.

And Canada and the United States could learn religious tolerance from Iran and Saudi Arabia. Canada and the Unites States should and MUST allow exactly the same religious freedom to Muslims as Saudi Arabia and Iran (just to mention two Muslim countries) allow Christians to practice their faith in those countries.

After all, fair is fair! NO??
 

El Barto

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Feb 11, 2007
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I think striping human beings of their right to practice their beliefs would cause even more violance let along creating a more peaceful enviroment
You know , that would be a problem and it would be a non issue if they practice it quietly with out imposing on us thier religious ways that go against our laws. . Like ceromonial knives at schools, burkas while driving and turbans when hard hats are needed.

Unfortunately they excel at being hated than trying to understand and fit in.
 

Downhome_Woman

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Dec 2, 2008
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Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?


ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

In spite of howls to the contrary, Canada and the United States are still CHRISTIAN countries.

So, in all fairness, Muslims MUST be allowed to practice their faith in their adopted CHRISTIAN countries.

And Canada and the United States could learn religious tolerance from Iran and Saudi Arabia. Canada and the Unites States should and MUST allow exactly the same religious freedom to Muslims as Saudi Arabia and Iran (just to mention two Muslim countries) allow Christians to practice their faith in those countries.

After all, fair is fair! NO??


Last I checked, while both Canada and The USA are countries with a lot of Christians, they are not 'Christian' countries.
One of the American founding fathers was adamant regarding the separation of church and state,. He was also firm in his belief that, while people had a right to practice their own religion, religious 'rights' took second place to the rule of law"
"Believing... that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." --Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802. ME 16:281

"Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth or permitted to the subject in the ordinary way cannot be forbidden to him for religious uses; and whatsoever is prejudicial to the Commonwealth in their ordinary uses and, therefore, prohibited by the laws, ought not to be permitted to churches in their sacred rites. For instance, it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children. It is ordinarily lawful (or temporarily lawful) to kill calves or lambs; they may, therefore, be religiously sacrificed. But if the good of the State required a temporary suspension of killing lambs, as during a siege, sacrifices of them may then be rightfully suspended also. This is the true extent of toleration." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:547


"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." --Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119
 

VanIsle

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If this were so shouldn't we all be wearing buck skins and living in tee pees and long houses?
No. Because we have progressed beyond Tepees and buck skins, does not mean we step back and let other nations rule ours. I agree with Dex 100%. I fully believe that anyone immigrating to Canada, should be here to live as a Canadian, not as they did in the country they left and if they want to live as they did in their country of origin, they should go home. I still strongly believe they should adapt to our way of clothing except on what would be a special occassion in their lives. I simply believe they should adapt to Canadian life period. I don't allow a JW for example, to come into my home and preach their form of religion just as I would never expect to enter their's and preach mine. In both cases, it conflicts with my personal belief's. That does not mean however, that I will not befriend a JW who just wants to be friends and religious differences are not a part of our friendship. If their beliefs began to take any control over my personal life, they would be dropped as my friend. There are a lot of Muslims in this world. The onus is on them to make us trust them. It is not on the people of this country to blindly accept them. We have been given reason not to give them our full trust and now they must do all they can to regain that trust.
I don't think we've given up the long houses yet. Aren't they a part of Canadian Culture?:smile: