Sheila Copps says she was raped, and sexually assaulted

Locutus

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Sorry guys.
ftfy

sounds a lot more sincere don't you think.

it's better to stop blabbering while you're somewhat ahead son.

p.s. not one member bothered to report your filthy ignorant remark either. not once. just sayin'.

 

SLM

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Sorry guys.

Once and a while I am crude and politically incorrect.

Well you're halfway there. It was neither crudeness nor political incorrectness that was found to be so repugnant. Can you not even see that?

I'm literally shaking my head here.

p.s. not one member bothered to report your filthy ignorant remark either. not once. just sayin'.

You should be grateful, lol. If we reported every single stupid comment, you'd be one busy beaver.
 

Twila

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Or leave another potential victim unaware.


It was/is not her responsibility to protect an entire gender. However, she did fulfilled her obligation as a human being by voting.

To leave the responsibility and thereby a form of culbability of warning all women (and by warning telling the world the most personal details of a horrendous event that leaves the victim feeling humiliated, vulnerable to her core and terrified) about a single individual on a rape victim is similar to blaming a victim for being raped.

It's not right.
 

taxslave

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She has stated the rape was by a boyfriend, therefore, she was not married when the rape took place.


How does that mean she was not married at the time?
 

#juan

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Well, if you must rape someone, Sheila Copps would be the one to go to. She won't identify you and she won't report you to the police. It will be almost like it never happened. If she did get raped by one guy and sexually assaulted by another, has the experience been festering inside her for all these years? Until she names her attackers, it is just stories....or bullsh-t.....:roll:
 

Twila

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Until she names her attackers, it is just stories....or bullsh-t.....:roll:

hmmm, cause this sort of attitude couldn't possibly be part of the problem...could it?

Is it that hard for men to even conceive of what it might be like to be raped and what that violence can do to a human being? Or is it too hard for men to conceive?
 

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hmmm, cause this sort of attitude couldn't possibly be part of the problem...could it?

Is it that hard for men to even conceive of what it might be like to be raped and what that violence can do to a human being? Or is it too hard for men to conceive?

I don't think you can rape a man. Either he won't rise to the occasion or he won't protest.
 

Twila

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I don't think you can rape a man. Either he won't rise to the occasion or he won't protest.

A man can rape a man. A woman can sodomize a man and that would still be sexual assault and just as damaging mentally.
 

#juan

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hmmm, cause this sort of attitude couldn't possibly be part of the problem...could it?

Is it that hard for men to even conceive of what it might be like to be raped and what that violence can do to a human being? Or is it too hard for men to conceive?

What is hard to conceive is a politician keeping these attacks secret for so many years when the assailants were known to her. Maybe she thought going public would destroy her chances of re-election.........a distinct possibility.
 

Twila

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What is hard to conceive is a politician keeping these attacks secret for so many years when the assailants were known to her. Maybe she thought going public would destroy her chances of re-election.........a distinct possibility.

That is a distinct possibility. However, since the police were not inclined to lay charges and she was young at the time, that's more likely the reason for keeping her personal experience private.

It can take a person years and years and years to be able to talk about such an event in their lives. I can't imagine what it would take to be able to speak publicly about such an event.

I can imagine what it would have been like 30 years ago to have to talk to male police officers and to be asked the stupid questions that they would have back then. I know what the questions were like back in the late 1980's. They were victim blaming type questions. Not designed to open the lines of communication.
 

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hmmm, cause this sort of attitude couldn't possibly be part of the problem...could it?

Is it that hard for men to even conceive of what it might be like to be raped and what that violence can do to a human being? Or is it too hard for men to conceive?

Waiting all these years to announce her experiences won't be doing her many favors in terms of receiving any justice or closure on this issue. Offloading that responsibility onto society is no answer for her or society at large.

In terms of asking 'men' about understanding the overall issue from a women's POV, good luck on that... If you really want some results, attach a real heavy duty consequence to sexual assault/rape and then you might go somewhere, but deferring that event by decades won't help the situation one bit
 

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What is hard to conceive is a politician keeping these attacks secret for so many years when the assailants were known to her. Maybe she thought going public would destroy her chances of re-election.........a distinct possibility.

You are wrong Juan. 100 % wrong.
 

CDNBear

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I know two, wonderful, empowered, intelligent women, that have carried the secret of being raped,not once, not twice, but repeatedly for years, their whole lives. Never once seeking justice for the pain it would force them to relive.

It's sad, but it happens. I feel for them.
 

#juan

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I know two, wonderful, empowered, intelligent women, that have carried the secret of being raped,not once, not twice, but repeatedly for years, their whole lives. Never once seeking justice for the pain it would force them to relive.

It's sad, but it happens. I feel for them.

"wonderful", "empowered", "intelligent", Seems to me a woman who has been sexually assaulted repeatedly for years would have to be a saint to remain wonderful, empowered, and intelligent ??through it all.
 

CDNBear

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"wonderful", "empowered", "intelligent", Seems to me a woman who has been sexually assaulted repeatedly for years would have to be a saint to remain wonderful, empowered, and intelligent ??through it all.
Or just be young, scared and trapped, but managed to struggle through it, grow, mature and learn to deal with the horror that haunts them from time to time.

Just because you've never met one, or maybe you have but never been close enough to them for them to open up to you in some small way, doesn't mean they don't exist.

They do.
 

petros

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Correct me if I'm wrong but she did say she reported it to police right after it happened. She can't give a name today without adding a lawsuit to the emotional injury she has already been suffering all these years.
 

pgs

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Or just be young, scared and trapped, but managed to struggle through it, grow, mature and learn to deal with the horror that haunts them from time to time.

Just because you've never met one, or maybe you have but never been close enough to them for them to open up to you in some small way, doesn't mean they don't exist.

They do.
Sadly this is a hard topic with so many gray areas that it is no wonder that early philosiphers and church leaders promoted abstinence except between married couples .

My spelling is atrocious .
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Why are you so interested in who her boyfriend was? I'd be more interested in why the fu cking useless pigs that called themselves police wouldn't charge the useless piece of shyte. You, on the other hand, question her because she won't name him now, more than 30 years later, after the police refused to charge him.

Oh I don't know, because maybe she says she was raped by him.

Something to keep in mind, since the police refused to charge him, she can't very well accuse him at this point without the possibility of getting sued. But what the hell, it's only Sheila Copps, let's make some political hay with this.
If that's the case then how about she identifies the officers as well as the precinct she lodged the complaint with.

oh, and before you deny the "political hay", I figured I'd do some research and found the complete quote concerning the 77 election.
What political hay? Sheila Copps is politically irrelevant.


Copps entered provincial politics in the 1977 provincial election, running for the Ontario Liberal Party in Hamilton Centre. She lost, finishing fourteen votes behind incumbent New Democrat Mike Davison. Copps appeared on the ballot for this election as "Sheila Copps Miller", using the surname of her then-husband. In all subsequent campaigns, she would refer to herself as "Sheila Copps".

She has stated the rape was by a boyfriend, therefore, she was not married when the rape took place.
Here's where I stand on it. If she was raped she should name the rapist and the police who ignored her complaint. There is no political gain in this for anyone, but if you think I'm being partisan that's your narrow point of view.