she weren't "normal" when she did it........

gerryh

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I don't think jail fixes "stupid"


Stupid? Really?


This useless cow get's 18 months for killing her children, that's it. This proves, without a doubt, what value our society puts on children compared to animals.
 

karrie

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A very interesting read about the phenomenon of pregnancy denial.... PsychiatryOnline | American Journal of Psychiatry | A Systematic Investigation of 16 Cases of Neonaticide

One excerpt of interest....


Recognizing that childbirth is a time of unique biological change and peak prevalence for mental illness (6), most Western countries have developed infanticide legislation that provides probation and mandated psychiatric treatment. In contrast, the United States considers infanticide under general homicide laws (7). Sentencing is arbitrary, and penalties range from probation to life in prison. And yet, the United States has the fourth highest rate of infanticide of 21 developed countries (8).

Three epidemiological factors suggest further investigation:

1. Infanticide represents an escalating 50% of all U.S. homicides due to injury. Because many infant victims of homicide are never found, Overpeck et al. (9) have cautioned that the rate of neonaticide is underestimated at 5% of infant homicides.

2. Maternal infanticide correlates with the findings of Kendell et al. (6) that women are more likely to experience psychiatric illness after childbirth than at any other time in life.

3. Almost half of filicidal parents are seen by medical professionals shortly before their tragedies (1).
 

karrie

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I guess making sure she can not breed anymore would not be PC?

I wonder. It seems to me that if pregnancy is a precipitating factor to a psychotic break, that perhaps it might be a time when medicine can justify stepping in and at least put you on birth control implants or something.
 

karrie

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This useless cow get's 18 months for killing her children, that's it. This proves, without a doubt, what value our society puts on children compared to animals.


For the judge to use the infanticide law to sentence her is unusual. Women who kill their babies are typically found guilty of manslaughter in Canada. The infanticide sentence is rare. They reserve it for extreme cases where mental disturbance is obvious and psychiatric care is deemed as more pressing than imprisonment.
 

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After reading reactions here I am glad we use a different method to dispense
justice than the element of emotion. First of all no, 18 months was not long
enough. This woman also needs help as well as punishment however.
We see Veterans doing uncharacteristic things and we are there to punish and
helop but more toward help. This had to do with children so the first reaction is
to punish. This woman would not have trown the neighbours kid in a dumpster.
So what caused her to do that to her own? There is the question that surrounds
the problem.
Remember punishment is about justice not revenge. In our society we have to
keep both parts of the pendulum in balance.
 

karrie

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After reading reactions here I am glad we use a different method to dispense
justice than the element of emotion. First of all no, 18 months was not long
enough. This woman also needs help as well as punishment however.
We see Veterans doing uncharacteristic things and we are there to punish and
helop but more toward help. This had to do with children so the first reaction is
to punish. This woman would not have trown the neighbours kid in a dumpster.
So what caused her to do that to her own? There is the question that surrounds
the problem.
Remember punishment is about justice not revenge. In our society we have to
keep both parts of the pendulum in balance.

36 months, not 18 (because she's already been in for 18 months). From what I see of Canadian law, that's pretty on par for someone considered a psychiatric case.