Well, that's because you've never had to pick up the body parts of your countrymen.
If you lived in this particular region you might feel differently.
Several dead, many wounded in bus attack in Israel
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Well, that's because you've never had to pick up the body parts of your countrymen.
If you lived in this particular region you might feel differently.
Ok, this "stupidity" is getting ridiculous. How the hell do you defend yourself against an enemy that hides in another territory, does strike and runs, without being "offensive"(using offensive in the way you are using it, which is incorrect by the way).
Now for the "correct" way to use offensive and defensive. Those that attacked Isreal were being "offensive", Israel's retaliation was defensive. If Israel had been pre-emptive, then they could be accused of being offensive.
With each hit you take, you add more credibility to your side - politically.
Eventually, the other party would be forced to agree to certain terms for outlining territory.
If they continue to persist with violent attacks, despite your peaceful approach, you might get U.N. backing to finally go in and declare a legitimate war.
And that's it folks.
If I'm the boots on the ground or a civilian, I don't have a say in how the state should react.
So, given this statement, why would you be object to a characterization of heavy handedness? It's a tacit admission of heavy handedness.
As to the rest, there will be no peace without sacrifices. Anybody remember the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing that failed in the past and expecting different results. You can't change the world without changing yourself first.
It's easier to say that, when you aren't the nation under attack.
I imagine, despite your cucumber like exterior, your emotions might get in the way a little. If you were an Israeli.
You can not bargain with an enemy that exists only to destroy not simply the nation, but the people as a whole.
Read the Charter of Hamas. No recognition of Israel, and dreaming of the mass slaughter of Jews in the end days, as described in the Hadith.
All Hamas has to do to live in peace is stop attacking............Israel does not attack into the Gaza Strip unless provoked.
Please Sir, explain to me how NOT retaliating will stop Hamas launching unprovoked attacks into Israel?????
Because, as hard as I try, I can not see the entire concept as anything but ludicrous.........
Hamas EXISTS to kill Jews, and they don't even hide it!!!!! They declare it to the world.........
Hamas TV:
Hamas TV: Jews enemies of Allah -should all be killed - YouTube
Think That is a one-off?? Nope,
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/...amas-imam-please-allah-kill-all-the-jews.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...n-of-hamas-on-god-apos-s-hatred-of-jews/9278/
http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
And being a Jew "has nothing to do with it". Uh-huh.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135773#.Tk3q0qj4KcM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is8M9O4hI7w&feature=player_embedded
Heard enough?? There is LOTS more...
You deal with Islamist loonies the same way you deal with Nazis, because they are the same: you kill them.
Pull your head out of the sand.
Death to Hamas.
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.. but they ain't dead..
Israel-Gaza Violence Escalates After Deadly Attack on Israelis
Militants in the Gaza Strip have fired rockets into Israel after Israeli warplanes pounded the Palestinian territory in retaliation for a series of attacks in southern Israel that killed eight.
Israeli authorities said militants launched at least 10 rockets into Israel Friday, damaging a school and a synagogue in the southern city of Ashdod and causing some injuries.
The rocket attacks came after nighttime airstrikes in Gaza that killed a teenager. Israel launched the strikes after Thursday's deadly assaults along Israel's border with Egypt. The Israeli military said the gunmen crossed into Israel from Gaza through Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.
Israeli forces killed at least five of the attackers along the border, and later killed at least four members of the armed Palestinian group the Popular Resistance Committees after blaming that organization for the attack. The group vowed to avenge the killings, with its leader reportedly among the dead.
Meanwhile, Palestinian militant group Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, has denied involvement in the attacks on the Israelis.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned in a televised address that anyone who attacks Israel will pay what he called a "very heavy price." Defense Secretary Ehud Barak called the assault a grave terrorist incident.
The United States and the United Nations issued separate statements condemning the attacks in Israel. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon urged restraint.
Israel has expressed concern about a deterioration of security in the Sinai since Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak resigned in February. Last week, Egypt moved additional forces to the region in an effort to improve security.
Israel-Gaza Violence Escalates After Deadly Attack on Israelis | News | English
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Five of them are.
Hamas controls Gaza......they are responsible for attacks that come from Gaza, in exactly the same manner the Taliban of Afghanistan was responsible for attacks from its territory.
No one in Gaza is armed without the approval of Hamas.
Remember the "murdered" police cadets in Operation Cast Lead?
I said the same thing there......if they are Palestinian and armed in Gaza, they are Hamas militants and legitimate targets. The world cried "murder"......until the Hamas interior minister admitted they were part of Hamas' military wing.
Death to Hamas.......
Or any other genocidal Islamic nutbar.
Perhaps I should phrase this differently.
If Israel was patient enough to develop a significant initiative, you may well have your wish of 'Death to Hamas'.
That would apply except you are under the impression that Hamas wants peace - wants a 2 state solution - both are fallacies - Hamas wants a Greater Palestine Juden Frei and a 1 state solution.
As to gaining UN authorization - A nation when attacked does not require the approval of the UN. That said the UN would never give approval outside of a mass attack causing massive death rates - WMD's for example - for Israel to attack Gaza - Then what does Israel do after that - evict them?
Look up the history of Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Hezbollah claimed its existence was only as a resistance movement against Israeli occupation on Lebanese territory.......while preaching the extermination of all Jews worldwide....but who took them seriousl;y??? Until Buenos Aries that is.
But, I digress.
Israel abandoned Lebanon, much as they abandoned Gaza......except this time the Israelis had the United Nations come in and draw the boundary line..........NO Israelis are on any part of Lebanese territory......
But Hezbollah, desperate for a reason d'etre, called up Syria, who kinda granted to Lebanon a few dozens of acres called the Sheeba Farms.........in Israeli occupied Syrian Territory, as demarked by the UN. Hezbolla took that as continued Israeli occupation of Lebanon.....
So much for appeasement.
The Israelis unilaterally WITHDREW from Gaza.......The Palestinians Immediately turned it into a launch point for attacks on Israel.
So much for appeasement.
I guess they might just as well line up quietly for extermination.
That is the ONLY gesture that the Palestinians would accept.
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Is that really what the majority of Palestinians want?
Because you began your post with Hamas/Hezbollah and ended with Palestinians.
It is what their "elected" leaders want.....that is all that matters.
"Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice"
Israeli drones violate Lebanon airspace | Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) News | Unmanned.co.uk
Methinks if one expects the other side to stick to rules, one should respect them ones self
My shyte don't stink....
Methinks if one expects the other side to stick to rules, one should respect them ones self
My shyte don't stink....
I was under the impression that this guy wanted a two-state solution:
Mahmoud Abbas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wrong, yes.. but it's also a bit of a red herring for this new development.
I was under the impression that this guy wanted a two-state solution:
Mahmoud Abbas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wrong, yes.. but it's also a bit of a red herring for this new development.
Yes he does - He also tried to make peace& common ground with Hamas on an agreement a few months ago - it fell apart within days. Does that tell you anything.
It tells me that not all Palestinian leaders work for terrorist organizations as Colpy implied.
Look, all I'm saying is that I don't understand why Israel thinks that retaliation would actually solve the problem. It only makes things worse. I thought we all realized this after the U.S. went into Iraq because of 9-11.
There appears to be collateral damage as well:
Egyptian soldiers killed as bomb explodes near border
Egyptian soldiers were killed in an Air Force assault near the Taba-Eilat border while searching the area for infiltrators.
According to Egyptian media, the two soldiers killed were members of the central security service. An Egyptian security official told Egypt's official news agency that two more soldiers were hurt in the aerial attack. He said that the Israeli aircraft was following infiltrators and opened fire while the wounded soldiers were in the area.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4111034,00.html
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