Several dead, many wounded in bus attack in Israel

[Goober]

This is not an "Israel" thing. It's a hegemonic thing. The greater power always bears the greater burden.

With that in mind, then Jews would be treated, along with other faiths in all Arab countries as equal under the law.
That is not the case. Yet the Muslims are the hegemonic power in these countries. So that theory is out the window.
Again you have to understand the religions, the politics, the difference between Sunni - Shia, Bahia, Judaism, Christianity - then land, power, economics - it all play a part. Some more so than others. But they are all important

So back to the question again. Why, always why. Never said this would be easy Grasshopper - and I mean that as a compliment and a touch of humor as well.

 

[CDNBear]

Let me google that for you

Dodge and obfuscation.

 

[mentalfloss]

I do. As I already stated.

And as has already been pointed out, your opinion has one big flaw. the written policy of extermination, within Hamas' charter.

That in and of itself, would clearly indicate to anyone capable of critical thought on the matter, that there is no means of peace. No matter what Israel does.

They should change the charter. I agree that they have a corrupt system that needs to change.

In the meantime, Israel needs to hold off the attacks - in my humble opinion.

Dodge and obfuscation.

Troll which will eventually change to rosy compliments.

 

[Goober]

They should change the charter. I agree that they have a corrupt system that needs to change.

In the meantime, Israel needs to hold off the attacks - in my humble opinion.

I want to make this for all. I think it is time to give the man a break - so lets stop the insults and as I mentioned earlier - education - If a point is in error - we go from there - education

PS - We also take other to school when they mess up.

 

[petros]

This is not an "Israel" thing. It's a hegemonic thing. The greater power always bears the greater burden.

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Hey loook Comrade it ees Man of Steel, He will sawe eweryting!

 

[Colpy]

Something tells me that wasn't exactly how it went down, lol

Perhaps then you could do a little research and educate yourself.......

Or STFU when you know absolutely nothing about the subject at hand.

That would make you very quiet indeed.

Geezus, try to fill a guy in.....

Perhaps, at the very least, you could go out and get an alternative viewpoint BEFORE you start arguing.

#$%^&*

 

[Goober]

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Hey loook Comrade it ees Man of Steel, He will sawe eweryting!

And Captain America is what, hamburger - Really Petros - Really.

 

[CDNBear]

They should change the charter.

I'm glad you admit that. So I guess that means you will support Israel's present policy, until Hamas changes its charter than?

I agree that they have a corrupt system that needs to change.

That portion of their charter has nothing to do with corruption.

In the meantime, Israel needs to hold off the attacks - in my humble opinion.

Oh, so you agree that Hamas' charter needs to change, since it is the cause of Israels reactions. But you still want Israel to act as if the charter has been changed?

How does that logic make sense?

Troll which will eventually change to rosy compliments.

So you can't answer his question.

Sad your lack of ethics clouds your judgment so badly.

 

[mentalfloss]

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Hey loook Comrade it ees Man of Steel, He will sawe eweryting!

roflmao

For some reason I don't mind it when you dish it out.

 

[AbtFet]

I do. As I already stated.

And as has already been pointed out, your opinion has one big flaw. the written policy of extermination, within Hamas' charter.

That in and of itself, would clearly indicate to anyone capable of critical thought on the matter, that there is no means of peace. No matter what Israel does.

Extermination of what/who?

 

[gerryh]

Extermination of what/who?

Holy Jeez, another one that doesn't have a clue. Hamas's charter clearly states that they want nothing less than the extermination of the Jewish state of Israel and the Jewish people.

 

[Colpy]

Extermination of what/who?

Extermination of Jews, world wide.

Hamas Charter

 

[CDNBear]

Extermination of what/who?

Israel and the Jews. But I know you'll say it doesn't.


Hamas Charter

You should actually read that.

 

[AbtFet]

Holy Jeez, another one that doesn't have a clue. Hamas's charter clearly states that they want nothing less than the extermination of the Jewish state of Israel and the Jewish people.

No it doesn't call for the extermination of Jews.
You never read the charter obviously . Who cares about actual facts though, right?

And who cares if it calls for the extermination of Israel, they've been slaughtering Palestinian citizens for decades, what do you think it's going to say about Israel?

 

[Colpy]

No it doesn't call for the extermination of Jews.
You never read the charter obviously . Who cares about actual facts though, right?

And who cares if it calls for the extermination of Israel, they've been slaughtering Palestinian citizens for decades, what do you think it's going to say about Israel?

So, you can't read????????

All the Palestinians have to do is stop firing rockets into Israel and shooting up Israeli buses......

That's all.

You' should have been around back in the thirties.........you'd have loved Hitler.

Go back to Post Number 126 on this thread.....it is all laid out for you.....

Here I'll make it nice and easy for you.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/1464216-post.html

 

[CDNBear]

Who cares about actual facts though, right?

Not you.

And who cares if it calls for the extermination of Israel, they've been slaughtering Palestinian citizens for decades, what do you think it's going to say about Israel?

We already know you support the slaughter of innocent women and children, so long as they're jews.

 

[mentalfloss]

No it doesn't call for the extermination of Jews.
You never read the charter obviously . Who cares about actual facts though, right?

They say it reads like the modern day "Mein Kempf" (which is pretty gruesome..).. Here are the articles (I haven't read through them yet)..

• Article 1 describes the Movement's program as "Islam".[17]
• Article 2 of Hamas' Charter defines Hamas as a "universal movement" and "one of the branches of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine".[12][17][18][19]
• Article 3 the Movement consists of "Moslems who have given their allegiance to Allah".[17]
• Article 5 Demonstrates it Salifist roots and connections to the Muslim brotherhood. />[17]
• Article 6 Hamas is uniquely Palestinian,[20] and "strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine" [12][17]
• Article 7 describes Hamas as "one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders" and links the movement to the followers of the religious and nationalist hero Izz ad-Din al-Qassam.[17][19]
• Article 8 The Hamas document reiterates the Muslim Brotherhood's slogan of "Allah is its goal, the Prophet is the model, the Qur'an its constitution, jihad its path, and death for the sake of Allah its most sublime belief."[12][17]
• Article 9 adapts Muslim Brotherhood's vision to connect the Palestinian crisis with the Islamic solution and advocates "fighting against the false, defeating it and vanquishing it so that justice could prevail".[17]
• Article 11 Palestine is sacred(waqf) for all Muslims for all time, and it cannot be relinquished by anyone.[17]
• Article 12 affirms that "Nationalism, from the point of view of the Islamic Resistance Movement, is part of the religious creed" .[17]
• Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.[17]
• Article 14 The liberation of Palestine is the personal duty of every Palestinian.[17]
• Article 15 "The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem".It states the history of crusades into Muslim lands and says the "Palestinian problem is a religious problem". [17]
• Article 20 Calls for action "by the people as a single body" against "a vicious enemy which acts in a way similar to Nazism, making no differentiation between man and woman, between children and old people".[17]
• Article 22 Makes sweeping claims about Jewish influence and power reminiscent of the notorious Czarist forgery Protocols of the Elders of Zion[17][21]
• Article 28 Conspiracy indictment against "Israel, Judaism and Jews".[17][21]
• Article 32 Hamas condemns as co-plotters the “imperialistic powers” .[21] References The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[17][22]

Edit: Yep - that's pretty .. something.

 

[gerryh]

No it doesn't call for the extermination of Jews.
You never read the charter obviously . Who cares about actual facts though, right?

And who cares if it calls for the extermination of Israel, they've been slaughtering Palestinian citizens for decades, what do you think it's going to say about Israel?

Obviously you are one of those that don't care about actual facts.

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

 

[Goober]

No it doesn't call for the extermination of Jews.
You never read the charter obviously . Who cares about actual facts though, right?

And who cares if it calls for the extermination of Israel, they've been slaughtering Palestinian citizens for decades, what do you think it's going to say about Israel?

You are seriously Fuked - Who else is on your List for extermination aside from Jews - Or is it just Jews you despise.

 

[CDNBear]

They say it reads like the modern day "Mein Kempf" (which is pretty gruesome..).. Here are the articles (I haven't read through them yet)..Edit: Yep - that's pretty .. something.

I love it when you prove me right.

Thanks for answering my questions by the way.

I hope you're proud about wanting Israel to just sit idly by, while the people that wrote that keep on going, until they bring their covenant to fruition.

Obviously you are one of those that don't care about actual facts.

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

Abtfet has no need of facts Gh.