Security Council accepts No Fly Zone

BaalsTears

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They will be free from the air threat coming from the air force Gadhafi controls, which is the objective of Operation Odyssey Dawn. It's not necessarily a part of the objective to help the Libyan rebels win their fight.



So, this above is just a bunch of assumptions. Take the first sentence quoted above. "Gadhafi must destroy the rebels because he can't live with the threat they present." Says who? Do we know what Gadhafi thinks? No.

It seems just as likely that we could be sitting here weeks from now talking about how Gadhafi and his family fled to some third country (which would actually be a pretty good outcome)...

Yes we do know that Gadhafi will either be victorious or defeated. There will be no stalemate unless America is prepared to maintain one indefinitely at America's sole cost and expense.

If Gadhafi is defeated he will either be killed or tried as a war criminal. That gives him an incentive to win. America doesn't have such an incentive. American forces are stretched to the breaking point already. Americans have no stomach for more war, except for American leftists who want to do good.
 

EagleSmack

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Perhaps you should check your definitions of "covered", "100%", "government", and "lose".

Face it... you lose.

The US doesn't get the oil. It goes to Italy. Italy and the EU are the beneficiaries of this NWO venture and are footing the bill.

Hey... stop messing with our fun. We all know that US "Wars for Oil" never benefit the US. However it is fun to say "No War for Oil"
 

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With a hey hi ho it's off to Libya we go!
 

EagleSmack

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If Gadhafi is defeated he will either be killed or tried as a war criminal. That gives him an incentive to win. America doesn't have such an incentive. American forces are stretched to the breaking point already. Americans have no stomach for more war, except for American leftists who want to do good.

Gosh I hope we don't put troops on the ground. Obama just said we wouldn't.

We'll just bomb their T ITS off.
 

Icarus27k

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I don't assume that at all and you are foolish to think that.

Todays Anti-War Movement ONLY opposes wars started by Republican Presidents.

Okay fine, I stand corrected. You don't assume that. But you are pretty foolish to think today's anti-war movement only opposes wars started by Republican Presidents. You don't have any proof for that. For some reason, you find it hard to believe American anti-war people would support a no fly zone over Libya, so I think it's safe to assume you think the anti-war movement is opposed to all military conflicts.



It is very informed. We are mocking the anti-war movement themselves as they will remain silent and have been silent since Obama took office. You are a prime example as to the hypocricy of the Liberal Left in the US.


I wonder if we'll send any captured Libyans to GITMO. It is still open correct?

I don't think you've been paying attention. The anti-war movement hates some of the things Obama has been doing.

And I like evidence for my alleged prime example of hypocrisy please. Cause you haven't given any. Instead, you just said it.
 

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Hey... stop messing with our fun. We all know that US "Wars for Oil" never benefit the US. However it is fun to say "No War for Oil"
I'm sure the Canadian forces will tank up with fresh Libyan fuel from Italian tankerships and KCs. Do they take PetroCan cards?
 

Icarus27k

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I know the American leftist anti-war movement does not oppose all military engagements.

It only opposes those conducted by conservative presidents.

It's called partisan hypocrisy, and has now discredited the American anti-war movement. No blood for oil. What a joke.

I am not being unintentionally funny. I am mocking and ridiculing those on the American left. I hold American leftists in utter contempt, except for Gopher because he's my pal.

Sardonic comments are a form of payback to the left. Payback for Michael Moore hoping for the defeat of American soldiers in Iraq and the victory of the insurgents. Payback for Senator Harry Reid's statement that "This war is lost..." Remember. I haven't forgotten. That was one of the unforeseen consequences of the Second Iraq War, and it changed the nature of the domestic political debate.

I hope both Gadhafi and Obama go down in this fool's errand of a war. You folks on the left have an internal enemy far more dangerous than any foreign opponent you can imagine. It's time for Payback for Queering the Political Equilibrium in America. That is what you should find scary.



So, while I'm more concerned with the fate of the Libyan rebels, you're more concerned with some petty left versus right fight in the U.S. Cause I thought the topic was something greater than that. If that's what this argument is about, I think I'm on pretty solid logical ground.
 

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Okay fine, I stand corrected. You don't assume that. But you are pretty foolish to think today's anti-war movement only opposes wars started by Republican Presidents. You don't have any proof for that.

I don't? Seriously?

We are they?

(insert cricket sounds)

For some reason, you find it hard to believe American anti-war people would support a no fly zone over Libya, so I think it's safe to assume you think the anti-war movement is opposed to all military conflicts.

No Fly Zone / Bomb their brains out Zone

I do not find it hard to believe the the Anti-War Movement will stay silent here. Obama's a Democrat and those wars are A-OK.

Just ask Clinton when he bombed Yugoslavia UNMERCIFULLY.


I don't think you've been paying attention. The anti-war movement hates some of the things Obama has been doing.

And where are they?
 

Icarus27k

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Yes we do know that Gadhafi will either be victorious or defeated. There will be no stalemate unless America is prepared to maintain one indefinitely at America's sole cost and expense.

If Gadhafi is defeated he will either be killed or tried as a war criminal. That gives him an incentive to win. America doesn't have such an incentive. American forces are stretched to the breaking point already. Americans have no stomach for more war, except for American leftists who want to do good.

Color me skeptical on all of these assumptions. You got any more evidence that the doom and gloom scenario is going to play out?
 

EagleSmack

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And I like evidence for my alleged prime example of hypocrisy please. Cause you haven't given any. Instead, you just said it.

Because you and the Liberal Left WILL stay silent while we bomb and strike another nation silly. A nation who did not attack us and is no threat to us.
 

BaalsTears

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So, while I'm more concerned with the fate of the Libyan rebels, you're more concerned with some petty left versus right fight in the U.S. Cause I thought the topic was something greater than that. If that's what this argument is about, I think I'm on pretty solid logical ground.

My America has only one mortal enemy in the entire world that threatens to destroy my vision. The American Left.

The relevance of Libya is the ways in which it can be used for domestic political purposes against the American Left.

I won't forget this:

YouTube - Harry Reid: Iraq War Is Lost
 

EagleSmack

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Yeah, get some objective observer to read our back and forth on health care in this thread, and let them reach the same conclusion. I don't think you'll find any.

I don't need anyone to tell me what I stated was fact and what you stated is false.

Our nations poor are insured 100%.

You tried to insert "uninsured" in my words and failed miserably.

You lose.