They are our friends.In a mad, futile attempt to guide this thread back to the topic at hand:
DEATH TO TYRANTS!
I only wish we were bombing the crap out of Saudi Arabia as well.
They are our friends.In a mad, futile attempt to guide this thread back to the topic at hand:
DEATH TO TYRANTS!
I only wish we were bombing the crap out of Saudi Arabia as well.
Again, the mockery is funny, but not for the reasons you want it to be.
It's okay. Soon Obama will be announing the tapping into the 3 Trillion bbl of oil under the Rockies.Basically we are butting in with our Liberal Capitalist noses again. We are providing air cover for the Rebels because they are getting their azz kicked. So instead of speaking the truth we say we're protecting civillians.
I can't wait for the first bomb to drop so I can say Obama killed 1 Million Libyans and maintain that number for time immortal.
So we take orders from Libyan defectors now?
NO WAR FOR OIL! NOT IN MY NAME!
Basically we are butting in with our Liberal Capitalist noses again. We are providing air cover for the Rebels because they are getting their azz kicked. So instead of speaking the truth we say we're protecting civillians.
I can't wait for the first bomb to drop so I can say Obama killed 1 Million Libyans and maintain that number for time immortal.
So we take orders from Libyan defectors now?
NO WAR FOR OIL! NOT IN MY NAME!
As with all military actions, an objective first has to be formed. As odd as it may seem now, coming weeks after the initial start of conflict in Libya, the objective of the no fly zone is to protect the rebellious Libyans from violence by the Gadhafi government. More specifically: prevent civilian targets from being attacked from the air by the Libyan air force and preventing the bringing in of mercenaries via the air.
These ideas came from the Libyan ambassadors who defected, if you remember.
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It's okay. Soon Obama will be announing the tapping into the 3 Trillion bbl of oil under the Rockies.
First he needs to crash the dollar so all the T-Bills held by Arabs and Chinese will be just paper.
Genocide isn't the appropriate term in this case. Libya isn't even democide. If genocide was a consideration America would be involved in helping the people of the Democratic Republic of Congo. This isn't America's problem.
Obama has stuck his neck out, and people like me are going to use it against him as soon as something goes wrong. And something will go wrong. The only certainty is uncertainty.
America's objective in Libya is not to protect Libyan civilians. The objective is to protect the flow of oil to Europeans. Obama is engaged in one last dying gasp of Pax Americana. This is Blood for Oil.
Unintentional hilarity.
It's okay. Soon Obama will be announing the tapping into the 3 Trillion bbl of oil under the Rockies.
First he needs to crash the dollar so all the T-Bills held by Arabs and Chinese will be just paper.
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The first armored column we hit in the desert will show incinerated Libyans still gripping a steering wheel and then we will be back at it again. Justifying why.
Very intentional hilarity with a ring of truth. Sucks to be on the other side of the protest line eh Icarus? Democrats and Liberals are finding that out.
(I see you gave up on the Health Care Debate. Wise choice)
the protection of civilians is not a strategy.
Personally, I think my explanation of the strategy makes immeasurable more sense, especially since you haven't provided a shred of evidence to support your explanation. So, you're going to "rip me a new one" by just saying things that have no basis in reality? Scary.
...Also, is so.
I have a sense of deja vu about this. Amnesty International has already warned the US that it must comply with international standards of human rights in carrying out this pissant war. Expect the unexpected. There will be correspondents and camera men/women in Tripoli hospitals shortly reporting on severely wounded children maimed by American JDAMS.
Whatever truth you've been saying has been overshadowed by the amazing display of ignorance and complete lack of perspective about what's happening in Libya.
So no, nothing you've said so far is suck-level to me yet, whether it's you being wrong on Libya or your falsehoods on health care reform.
North America is going oil independent. Yeah the slope is going to be opened up, Bakken and under the Rockies. PEMEX can work the gulf. They know it like the back of the asses unlike the big hole Brits trying to take too much from the highest pressure finds in one shot. They got greedy and it failed so back to the ice water where they belong.He's already waffled on the Gulf Coast... Too bad a number of the rigs took contracts in the North Sea and SE Asia.
And while we're at it, don't forget Alaska.
That's the smart move.
One place where you are EagleSmack engage in unintentional funny is that you assume the American anti-war movement would be opposed to all military conflicts,
so it's not a particularly informed parody that you guys are doing.
Will Libyan civilians be free of threat while Gadhafi remains in power?
Gadhafi must destroy the rebels because he can't live with the threat they present. The rebels can't get rid of Gadhafi by themselves in the face of their recent setbacks.
How would you get Gadhafi out of power? The rebels have lost the initiative, and Gadhafi has reorganized, rearmed, and knows that he and his family will all die if he loses.
America must now protect the rebels at all costs. If America loses, Obama will lose the next election. If America wins, the American people won't remember what happened and he gains nothing. Only fools make that kind of bet.
Are poor and welfare people covered 100% by the governemt? Yes.
You lose..
One place where you are EagleSmack engage in unintentional funny is that you assume the American anti-war movement would be opposed to all military conflicts, so it's not a particularly informed parody that you guys are doing. I don't think you'll find that many anti-war Americans who belief the U.S. military should be completely done away with, for example. Even in the case of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, anti-war people probably could have been persuaded more if the idea of protecting innocent Iraqis from Saddam Hussein were brought up more.