All I'm hearing from turdOWE is Squirrel.
What we have to find is what he is detracting media attention from.
What we have to find is what he is detracting media attention from.
Scheer going to India to 'repair' relationship after 'disastrous' Trudeau trip
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Well, something needs to come out publicly globally, or everybody should’ve kept their lips buttoned. Here we are.
The Liberals polling numbers.
Poilievre's remarks came in response to a media query that asked what more should be done as an Indian diplomat was expelled by Canada.
"The prime minister hasn't provided any facts. He provided a statement. And I will just emphasize that he didn't tell me any more in private than he told Canadians in public. So we want to see more information," Poilievre said.
He stated that the allegations could be found untrue or uncredible if more information is not provided.
"We need to have the evidence that drew that allowed the prime minister to come to the conclusions he made yesterday," he said.
‘Come clean with…’: Canada's opposition leader jabs Trudeau on India allegations
Pierre Poilievre's remarks came in response to a media query that asked what more should be done as an Indian diplomat was expelled by Canada.
This isn't something that will help Trudeau's numbers unless it's real.Well, something needs to come out publicly globally, or everybody should’ve kept their lips buttoned. Here we are.
The Liberals polling numbers.
Poilievre's remarks came in response to a media query that asked what more should be done as an Indian diplomat was expelled by Canada.
"The prime minister hasn't provided any facts. He provided a statement. And I will just emphasize that he didn't tell me any more in private than he told Canadians in public. So we want to see more information," Poilievre said.
He stated that the allegations could be found untrue or uncredible if more information is not provided.
"We need to have the evidence that drew that allowed the prime minister to come to the conclusions he made yesterday," he said.
It’s global, it’s out there, with nothing to back it up anywhere. Canada needs to put up or shut up…& it’s past the shut up stage.‘Come clean with…’: Canada's opposition leader jabs Trudeau on India allegations
Pierre Poilievre's remarks came in response to a media query that asked what more should be done as an Indian diplomat was expelled by Canada.www.hindustantimes.com
If he supports the Sikhs to steal from Jagmeet he loses the much much bigger Hindu support.
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Time to shit or get off the pot though. He’s blown the diplomatic angle to get his soundbites for polling….& he can’t un-shut-up now….so if he’s a poker player, it’s time to push his chips into the middle…or his bluff will be called & it’ll be too late to slide those cards out of the sleeve as they will be irrelevant.
1.9% of Sikhs vs 4%-ish elsewhere? Didn’t say he was a Chess Player or a Mathematician.
Time to shit or get off the pot though. He’s blown the diplomatic angle to get his soundbites for polling….& he can’t un-shut-up now….so if he’s a poker player, it’s time to push his chips into the middle…or his bluff will be called & it’ll be too late to slide those cards out of the sleeve as they will be irrelevant.
It'll be a side dish on the news today.1
1.9% of Sikhs vs 4%-ish elsewhere? Didn’t say he was a Chess Player or a Mathematician.
Time to shit or get off the pot though. He’s blown the diplomatic angle to get his soundbites for polling….& he can’t un-shut-up now….so if he’s a poker player, it’s time to push his chips into the middle…or his bluff will be called & it’ll be too late to slide those cards out of the sleeve as they will be irrelevant.
The anti foghorn March is today.
Will Trudeau be present for the parade or whatever & if so, on what side wearing what costume?
(Sounds Interesting & distracting. Kind’a like the %’ages thing between the Sikhs & others of Indian descent in Canada….Which side is bigger Vote wise?)
Well, division is his forte, so Kudos I guess.
Causing an international incident with India over allegations the Narendra Modi government is behind the murder of a Canadian citizen could be exactly the point. For Justin Trudeau, seeking justice and affirming sovereignty might be secondary to the political benefits of causing a scene.
If, as Trudeau argues, the Indian government is behind the gangland-style murder of a Sikh separatist leader in Vancouver, then his speech to the House of Commons condemning India’s alleged role in the killing was entirely justified.
If, on the other hand, the “agents” behind the killing turn out to be simply those affiliated in some trivial way to the Indian government but were not actually acting on India’s behalf, Trudeau will have unnecessarily kicked off a major international spat.
It would be unnecessary for a government concerned about more than its own standing in the polls, that is. For the Trudeau Liberals, annoying India, while irritating Canada’s allies, may be the desired outcome, regardless of what the facts actually are.
Carson Jerema: For Trudeau, a foreign policy mess over India may be the entire point — National Post
When it came to China, the Liberals did everything they could to limit diplomatic unpleasantness
Ivison: The dumpster fire of Canada-India relations — National Post
Only a change of government in Ottawa will fix things, says India foreign policy expert
Pretty much everything this government does is calculated for political gain. All policies and public utterances are vetted for their ability to score (often cheap) partisan points. Solving problems matters less than provoking outrage. Former prime minister Stephen Harper was also guilty of turning policy-making into a soulless partisan affair, but Trudeau has perfected this process.
Traditionally, when these types of accusations have been made they came with a torrent of supporting evidence: Forensic analysis, witness accounts, detailed case files and often, photo and video corroboration.
But Canada has conspicuously released none of these. To date, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s only proffered evidence that India ordered the murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar is the claim that “Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link.”
Notably, when India angrily demanded such evidence, Trudeau could only reply that they should accept the Canadian allegations “with the utmost seriousness.”
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The RCMP has said that the suspects are two “heavy-set” individuals who escaped in a 2008 Toyota Camry driven by a third. All three are still at large, and the vehicle has not been recovered.
It is not enough to say security agencies are “actively pursuing credible allegations” that Indian government agents killed Hardeep Singh Nijjar who was shot dead by two masked men as he left a Sikh temple in Surrey, B.C.
The prime minister does not have to prove India’s complicity according to the evidence requirements of a court of law. But for Canadians to support him he must present a convincing and factual case.
The usual rhetoric about confidential security reports and active investigations preventing any disclosure must be abandoned. Canadians need and deserve answers. If the Canadian Security Intelligence Service or the RCMP has credible evidence then they should come forward.
Because the stakes are very high. Not only is the allegation a very serious one, but the ramifications will be significant.
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Our Five Eyes allies have seen the evidence and neither denied it nor came rushing to our aid to denounce Modi. That might just be geopolitics at play, as the U.S., the U.K. and Australia all seek trade and security deals with India and put the concerns of Canada on the back burner.
If the evidence is as damning as the Trudeau government believes, then releasing some of it will force our allies to speak up and force Modi to explain himself. Claims that doing so would jeopardize the investigation ring hollow, considering the PM’s revelation was the biggest bombshell we could expect.
It’s not Trudeau or Modi who will be hurt by this diplomatic impasse, it is everyday Canadians trying to do business between the two countries or those trying to arrange visas for family members.
It’s time for the leaders to stop playing international poker and put their cards on the table.
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But Canada has conspicuously released none of these. To date, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s only proffered evidence that India ordered the murder of Hardeep Singh Nijjar is the claim that “Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link.”
Notably, when India angrily demanded such evidence, Trudeau could only reply that they should accept the Canadian allegations “with the utmost seriousness.”
FIRST READING: Canada's remarkably slapdash assassination accusation — National Post
When countries accuse other countries of assassination, they traditionally bring video and forensic evidence instead of nothing
It is not enough to say security agencies are “actively pursuing credible allegations” that Indian government agents killed Hardeep Singh Nijjar who was shot dead by two masked men as he left a Sikh temple in Surrey, B.C.
The prime minister does not have to prove India’s complicity according to the evidence requirements of a court of law. But for Canadians to support him he must present a convincing and factual case.
The usual rhetoric about confidential security reports and active investigations preventing any disclosure must be abandoned. Canadians need and deserve answers. If the Canadian Security Intelligence Service or the RCMP has credible evidence then they should come forward.
Because the stakes are very high. Not only is the allegation a very serious one, but the ramifications will be significant.
Michael Higgins: Does Trudeau have what it takes to wage diplomatic war with India? — National Post
It's up to the prime minister to convince Canadians and allies of India's involvement in killing of Sikh separatist
It’s not Trudeau or Modi who will be hurt by this diplomatic impasse, it is everyday Canadians trying to do business between the two countries or those trying to arrange visas for family members.
It’s time for the leaders to stop playing international poker and put their cards on the table.
LILLEY: Time for Trudeau and Modi to lay their cards on the table — Toronto Sun
Expect India’s travel advisory against visiting Canada to be the first in a series of attacks on our country by the Modi government. Expect tariffs on Canadian goods, in particular pulse crops like peas and lentils, to be next. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s decision to go public with...
OK, the parade or march or protest, or whatever is over now. Each politician has got their soundbite. Each politician has picked the side more or less, etc…
Were they playing chess or demonstrating their mathematical abilities? There are presumably more parents of children than there are in the Transgender community, so that puts the Hindu Sikh percentages thing of voter in perspective.
My point is that, now that this can of worms has been opened publicly, without any supporting evidence, it’s time to put up or shut up and it’s too late to shut up, so it’s time to put up.
No idea. You mean to Trudeau? If so still no idea. Between Modi & Trudeau? If so still no idea.
I understand the definition of allegation though, & if there’s some kind of evidence enough for Trudeau to shoot his mouth off, he’d best pony up or he’ll be in a deeper polling hole than he already is, and I’d hate to give him political advice… but so will Canada follow him around the bowl if he’s flushing himself. What he’s doing currently with zero evidence out publicly but shooting his mouth off is not cool.
Trudeau declines to offer more evidence on Indian accusations — National Post
The PM said decision to make the allegations in the House of Commons was not taken lightly
“No specific information has been shared by Canada on this case. We are willing to look at any specific information, we have conveyed this to the Canadians,” Bagchi said.
That was interesting, but doesn’t touch on Nijjar at all, but sums up the peripheral details.
(SNC-LavaDeau preaching about the Rule of Law is ironic, but his Buffoonery here is affecting Canada on the world stage like the decision to brush off Germany & Japan on Natural Gas unlike other gaffs like Blackface & Tickle-Trunk that’re purely on himself)
“Reportedly” like “Allegedly” ???
Well, Trudeau can’t have his cake (shooting off his mouth without evidence) and then preach “Rule of Law” (after SNC Lavatory, for example), and then claim he can’t say anything because of an active investigation (like the whole Admiral Mark Norman affair where that was not a consideration, or the criminal that was shot in Saskatchewan by the Farmer, etc…), so he’s hung by his own hypocrisy here…before he can eat his cake too.
Time to get some facts into the light of day, because he’s not just screwing with his own reputation now, but with that of Canada as a whole on the world stage.
Regardless of how confident Trudeau’s is in these allegations, they are still allegations, and allegations are “a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made Without Proof.”
“Potential” isn’t a Slam Dunk, and if he’s going to play a Smarmy game he’d better have a Slam Dunk.
(SNC-LavaDeau preaching about the Rule of Law is ironic, but his Buffoonery here is affecting Canada on the world stage like the decision to brush off Germany & Japan on Natural Gas unlike other gaffs like Blackface & Tickle-Trunk that’re purely on himself)
“Reportedly” like “Allegedly” ???
Well, Trudeau can’t have his cake (shooting off his mouth without evidence) and then preach “Rule of Law” (after SNC Lavatory, for example), and then claim he can’t say anything because of an active investigation (like the whole Admiral Mark Norman affair where that was not a consideration, or the criminal that was shot in Saskatchewan by the Farmer, etc…), so he’s hung by his own hypocrisy here…before he can eat his cake too.
Time to get some facts into the light of day, because he’s not just screwing with his own reputation now, but with that of Canada as a whole on the world stage.
Regardless of how confident Trudeau’s is in these allegations, they are still allegations, and allegations are “a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made Without Proof.”
“Potential” isn’t a Slam Dunk, and if he’s going to play a Smarmy game he’d better have a Slam Dunk.
My guess on all this? Warrants were issued and they want India to give them up.
My guess is, Canada looks worse than it normally does over this & it doesn’t have to. That’s Trudeau being Trudeau.