Say it isn't so! B.C. Carbon Tax now longer revenue neutral.

EagleSmack

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I see the Alt-Left tears are still flowing.

A few? It can take an hour each way at times across at 5 local boarder crossings. Ever heard of Point Roberts Washington? For an American to drive there they have to go through Canada or they can go by boat. No ships, no ferry to US. Everything comes in by truck through a small Canadian city. It's also a must do before and after leaving Vancouver Island since it's 5 minutes out of the way and 30 cents a liter CAD cheaper not to mention cheaper groceries.

I've done it well over a hundred times. Washington is just too close.

It's millions of crossing per year. While there filling their tanks they buy their groceries, clothes, furniture, building materials and electronics etc.

How many billions does BC lose from all that?

Right now Trans Mountain and inbound tankers and barges are fuelling all of Vancouver and Washington. Trans Mountain is at full capacity and can't keep up. TMPL feeds Washington too and their Olympic Pipeline isnt/wasn't running.

Washington supplies the Navy Airforce and Washington first then BC and they use Kinder Morgan to get it in Anacortes.

You've never lived there or been there have you?

Now you know why gas hit $1.61

Should I be protesting line 3 or Keystone since they run through my city?

Should I go yell at the 150,000bbl a day refinery or two upgrades that process conventional heavy crude and dilbit removing the dozens of high dollar, value added products before it heads off to the US.

Are you against the YVR jet fuel pipeline and barge terminal to import jet fuel from the tanker supplied BP refinery? Is Alaska not pristine? Do Alaskans like oil? Ask them on the day when every Alaskan gets "The Dividend" .

Annual individual payout
Year Amount
2014 $1,884.00
2015 $2,072.00
2016 $1,022.00
(dividend was estimated to be $2,052 however Governor Walker's veto reduced it)
2017 $1,100.00
(dividend was estimated to be over $2,300 however it was reduced by legislative action)

Are you against the giant Shell LNG plant on the "pristine" BC coast that is being decided on shortly?

5 years of work for the Northern communities to build it giving thousands of men and women full red seal certified trades and the employed in their trades to keep it running and maintained?

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spilledthebeer

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Yes sir, the whiners are out of silver linings and the cold, stark reality is slapping them in the face


Jordan Peterson states that letting govt define hate speech is dangerous. But opponents of Peterson say it is fair to let the intended victim of the speech decide if it is hate. I think Peterson is right because letting alleged victims define hate speech gives the irresponsible and malevolent an opportunity to dictate to others and is a restriction on honest free expression. For instance, hypocrites do not like to be called hypocrites even when its true, so does it make us hateful criminals if we point to instances of hypocrisy in public debate? On that theme of allowing an alleged victim to define hate speech, just how much criticism of Justin Trudeau and his policies- especially on Islamophobia would be defined as hate speech? Half? Ninety percent? ALL? There is clear evidence that LIE-berals desire to shout down and silence ALL their many critics!

U of T professor Jordan Peterson`s refusal to use certain pronouns as demanded by LIE-berals boils down to this allegorical point: I possess the right to watch tv shows that I like and I possess the right to TURN OFF tv shows I don’t like. If LIE-berals choose to MAKE ME watch tv shows I would rather turn off then they are dictators! So it is with Peterson- LIE-berals want to MAKE HIM use certain words that he does not wish to use! Even worse- the way LIE-berals have written thr law- one can be con victed of hate speech by accident! One has only to misunderstand how to use any of the rapidly developing pronouns to be guilty!

Every article on U of T professor Jordan Peterson allegedly centres on what left wing advocates refer to as his abuse of free speech- but radicals cannot find a way to shut Peterson down because he is not actually demanding “free speech”. Rather, he simply demands the right NOT to say some things!

Jordan Peterson is in trouble because he has made it known he does not wish to be compelled by govt legislation to use any of the over 70 recently created and gender neutral pronouns he has heard of. Choosing to refer to somebody by their name or by referring to a person as “you in the black sweat shirt” etc- IS NOT a crime! Choosing NOT to use certain words can NOT be a crime- unless we live in a police state- like the one LIE-berals are trying HARD to build!

Jordan Peterson says its unfair and unlawful that he is being ordered by others to use certain gender neutral pronouns such as “ZHE”. Only a small part of the population is even aware of these pronouns and fewer still agree on how and where and when they should be used. In fact the average person could not find out when to use these pronouns unless they pried deeply- and intrusively into the mindset and gender image of persons who might or might not wish to use any particular pronoun!

Peterson points out that there are over 70 different gender identities noted on YouTube. By supporting the “ZHE” radicals, LIE-beral govt has reserved the right to tell us what language to use in any situation- without bothering to explain WHEN such language is appropriate! There fore I should be free to call certain people “LIE-berals” if I wish because govt has not yet ruled such a name as illegal!

People who want to pillory individuals such as U of T prof Jordan Peterson for failing to use certain “gender neutral pronouns” such as “Zhe” are attempting to introduce obscure clinical definitions- know only to a limited few- into a conversation with lay people. Those who think that criminal charges are a proper response to those who don’t use selected and obscure pronouns are engaged in Fascist dictatorship.
 

petros

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Yes sir, the whiners are out of silver linings and the cold, stark reality is slapping them in the face

Like any slut, a couple spreads in a magazine has gone to their head and they think they are still pretty and worthy of attention

10 years later not as pretty, packing baggage, hard drug addicted and they've become bitter facing the consequences of spreading them wide open for all to see but today all we see is the black, cold, lonely heart of a selfish slut.
 
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justlooking

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Like any slut, a couple spreads in a magazine has gone to their head and they think they are still pretty and worth of attention

10 years later not as pretty, packing baggage and they've become bitter facing the consequences of spreading them wide open for all to see but today all we see is the black, cold, lonely heart of a selfish slut.


So you are saying Stormy Daniels is the quintessential BC salad munching whining crybaby hippie chick ? :lol:
 

Hoid

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Oh look white nationalist climate change deniers want a carbon tax thread to discuss Google science on
 

captain morgan

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Like any slut, a couple spreads in a magazine has gone to their head and they think they are still pretty and worthy of attention

10 years later not as pretty, packing baggage, hard drug addicted and they've become bitter facing the consequences of spreading them wide open for all to see but today all we see is the black, cold, lonely heart of a selfish slut.

That is such a perfect description, and ironically, so many washed-up, used-to-be's live out in the Lower Mainland
 

EagleSmack

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I think hoid should find a safe space, he's wondering around the threads mumbling to himself and being paranoid about climate deniers

Yeah... he totally popped. Once he heard about what the Liberals were doing he simply popped.
 

Decapoda

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I think hoid should find a safe space, he's wondering around the threads mumbling to himself and being paranoid about climate deniers

There has to be a crying closet around somewhere for him. I think his cheese may have finally slid off his cracker.
 
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spilledthebeer

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There has to be a crying closet around somewhere for him. I think his cheese may have finally slid off his cracker.


Hoid is a strong supporter of electric toy vehicles and he follows the LIE-beral party line that electric toy machines will somehow be good for us- instead of merely allowing LIE-berals some photo ops when the machines are delivered! Though as Toronto Silly Hall denizens have discovered- LIE-berals are not to be found when reports of the huge costs, unsatisfactory fuel range and array of mechanical problems begins to surface!

Consider this:
Here is an article explaining exactly why it is so desperately wrong of LIE-berals to be using huge sums of tax money to create an electric vehicle industry that will feed off the LIE-beral electric generation slush fund they have created for the sake of producing the gravy they need to buy civil service union Hog votes so they can cling to power at any price! While at the same time they RATION health care- since there is not enough cash to go around- with this sort of result! With some comments of my own in brackets):

5-week-old girl dies at home in mother's arms while hospital over capacity 10/12

cbc.ca. March 6/2018. By Gabrielle Fahmy

Tessa McAllister and Cody Hay believe their daughter Blayke could have been saved had she been admitted to the Miramichi Regional Hospital.

Hours after an appointment with her doctor, five-week-old Blayke Hay-McAllister died in her mother's arms at her Miramichi home, her tiny fingers wrapped around her mother's hand.

"I was rubbing her hand and it felt colder than normal," said 34-year-old Tessa McAllister. "I panicked. I scooped her up and I bawled.

"And I ran … and I dropped … 'Please God, no please.' I was saying the 'Hail Marys,' I was saying the 'Our Fathers,' I was saying every prayer I've ever been taught. And I called 911, even though I wanted to call my mom."

But Blayke was dead.

And McAllister believes her daughter might be alive if she'd been admitted to Miramichi Regional Hospital.

Why was she sent home? Through her grief, McAllister is looking for answers to why she kept being told to take her baby home.

On Jan. 31, two days before Blayke died, she was sent to the hospital for an X-ray and swabs. She tested positive for respiratory syncytial virus, or RSV. The virus is a common cold among older children and adults, but for an infant can be dangerous.

The results were sent to her doctor, Dr. Jeffrey Hans, the next day.

By that time, according to McAllister, Blayke had been sick for about three weeks and had been seen at least five times by doctors, including her family doctor, Hans. Each time, she said, she was told to take her baby home.

(So each time doctors- who are under HUGE pressure to RATION our health care so LIE-berals can save on gravy- had decided the kid was sick but not quite too dangerously sick? YET!)

McAllister said that on February1, after being told the test results, she insisted her daughter be admitted to hospital.

"My baby's sick, and I don't think I can do it," she remembers thinking. "So I went and I said that. 'I don't think I can take care of her at home.'"

Hans called the Miramichi hospital about admitting Blayke but was told the hospital was 20 per cent over capacity.

(It`s that rationing thing- silly people persist in getting sick in spite of LIE-beral orders to the contrary!)

"He called the hospital with me in the room and the hospital said there was no room — for my dying baby. Dr. Hans said, 'I'm going to discuss options with Mommy and I'll call you back.'"

On Feb. 1, after her mom tried to get her admitted to hospital earlier in the day. Her parents say the infant's suffering was apparent and she was struggling to breathe.

She said he told her the emergency department was full of flu patients and she would need to go through ER to gain admittance. Hans didn't think that was the proper course of action, McAllister said.

(Of course its not the right way! If you just show up at emergency with an obvious medical problem they cannot send you away- and being forced to treat patients when over capacity messes up the rationing! But the other way- with your Doc phoning and asking nicely- lets some bureaucrat fob you off till another day!)

The "option" he discussed with her was to bring her baby back to his office the next day at 11 a.m., McAllister said.

"He was my doctor for 34 years and I trusted him," she said. "They told him there was no room for her. So I trusted she would make it through the night."

So, again, she took Blayke home.

Around 4:30 or 5 a.m. on Feb. 2, McAllister said dozed off, she said. Lately, she had been lying next to Blayke, with the baby on her side, or upright on McAllister 's shoulder, so she could tap Blayke's back and wipe away mucus. That morning, as Blayke slept in her arms, the infant was holding on to her mother's hand as she usually did.

(And how serious a picture is this? My teen sister developed a lung infection and damned near smothered to death when her throat became plugged with mucus and she stopped breathing while sleeping! Doctors are playing dangerous games here with this rationing crap!)

(And no doubt whining LIE-berals are now asking what a sick kid has to do with electric toy vehicles? And the answer is EVERYTHING! There is not enough money for all needs and LIE-berals have DELIBERATELY CHOSEN to throw OUR money at a risky new industry that has a history of FAILING to provide the quality and service that older products do- INSTEAD of dealing with dying kids! Toronto LIE-berals are on their third contract for electric busses- each time using substantial money supplied by senior govt- and the previous 2 bus contracts have been FAILURES- the mouldy green machines cost at least 50 percent more than diesel busses and DO NOT deliver the fuel economies or reliability that were the alleged selling points to begin with! Money that should go into health care is WASTED on these electric toy vehicles!)

McAllister woke up when she felt the cold in her daughter's hand. She called for help, stayed on the phone and performed CPR until paramedics arrived.

"Holding my dead daughter … I'll never get that picture out of my head," said McAllister.

"I'll never forgive myself for falling asleep. Because what if she did make a little tiny noise? That's something I'll have to live with for the rest of my life."

The ambulance arrived five hours before Blayke was to return to the doctor's office.

According to McAllister, Blayke was a small but healthy baby.

McAllister began noticing something wrong with Blayke when she was two weeks old. The baby was coughing and phlegmy and had raspy breathing.

Initially, she was told her daughter's breathing trouble was due to mucus left in her system because she had been delivered by C-section. When the gravelly breathing persisted, she said, she was told it was a cold and it would clear itself up.

"Common cold," she said she was told. But it only got worse.

Following one appointment, on January 30, Hans sent a request to the pediatrics department at the hospital. In it he states the baby "seems to be having colic."

"She is currently quite congested and coughing with thick mucus. Could these symptoms be compatible with cystic fibrosis?

(Cystic Fibrosis? The kid is coughing so hard they think kid might have a lethal disease like that? But there ain’t room in hospital for the kid? If you have ever seen a person- like my sister- choking to death on her own mucus it WILL BE CLEAR there is something badly wrong! Unless you are an idiot!)

"Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you would assess this infant for me and make sure there is nothing I'm missing."

On Feb 1., after the finding of RSV came back and McAllister asked Hans to get Blayke admitted to hospital, the baby's suffering was apparent, she said.

"She was struggling to breathe," the mother said. "She wouldn't even cry when her diaper was wet. She couldn't."

McAllister and Hay left a meeting with hospital officials without any of the answers they were looking to get. McAllister is trying to understand why the baby wasn't admitted to hospital.

She sent a letter to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of New Brunswick, asking it to look into the case. She also asked for a meeting with hospital officials.

But the meeting with the hospital's executive director, Marilyn Underhill, and its chief of staff, Dr. Michael Hayden, one month after the baby's death, left McAllister and Blayke's father, Cody Hay, with more questions than answers.

"It's been one month since, and not one answer," Hay said.

"Somebody didn't do their job at the hospital," McAllister said. "And the blame isn't just on the hospital, it's on the doctor who should have fought to have her admitted."

(The woman is wrong here- it is our LIE-beral govt that has FAILED us!)

"We're struggling. We're struggling as a young family. We got three other little girls at home and they're wondering when their baby sister is coming home. It's hard to explain."

Officials at the Miramichi Regional Hospital said it would always provide a bed for a patient needing one, even when over capacity. No one will be turned away.

(Seems like that is LIE-beral propaganda! I recall the outrage some years back of a doctor at a North York hospital. His mother had suffered a stroke and was taken by ambulance to the hospital- which was over capacity as usual- so the women was put on a gurney and left in a hallway. Some time later- her son heard of her situation and arrived at hospital and found his mother in a hallway- and began reading her charts looking for treatment information- and there was virtually NONE! The hospital was so overloaded- 20 years ago- that they had simply given the woman pain killers and left her to quietly DIE! Doctor son went on a rampage with words like LAWSUIT prominent in his rant- with the fact he was fully trained to comment on the lack of care STRONGLY motivated hospital staff!)

(Isn’t it ODD that the “dying woman” made a nice recovery and went home happy AFTER hospital administrators got a belly full of SERIOUS legal threats from her doctor son? This is the price of LIE-beral health rationing- AND it is the price of LIE-berals screwing around with electric toy vehicles as well- that not ready for mass production infant industry is sucking billions out of our pockets - for NOTHING! LIE-beral bribery will cost us huge sums if they manage to persuade more than 1-2 percent of drivers to adopt these vehicles! Currently electric vehicles have such short range and such long refueling times that only an eccentric few will pay the price to drive one of these toys! And LIE-beral efforts to create an electric bus industry- with the full costs and disappointing performance roughly hidden behind civil service Hog silence is NOT helping the LIE-beral cause!)

In an email to CBC News, Underhill said the safety of patients is paramount to the hospital.

"It will always provide a bed and care for patients that are admitted by a physician or through the emergency department, including when our facilities are in over capacity," said Underhill.

"Miramichi regional hospital faces overcrowding conditions from time to time with increases due to flu or other ailments." she said. "Patients needing care will not be turned away."

(UH-huh.....sure......)
 

petros

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And when they find out its 75 cents a KWH to charge a car and packing the equivalent taxes imposed on gasoline.