Rush Limbaugh's ratings fall

Zipperfish

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Could you link me up to the studies to which you refer please? Thanks.

Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs - The Globe and Mail

Red or blue? The shape of your grey matter may reveal your political stripe - The Globe and Mail


Liberals and atheists smarter? Intelligent people have values novel in human evolutionary history, study finds -- ScienceDaily

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...igence-and-politics-have-complex-relationship

Other studies shows NPR listeners as the most well informed on world events, and viewers of FOX News the lowest.
Fox News Viewers Uninformed, NPR Listeners Not, Poll Suggests - Forbes

There's a few of them.

Is a scientist who depends on grant funding independent of the person/organization who or which makes the grants?

In theory perhaps. In practice, not so much.
 

BaalsTears

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Brock University? No name researcher? Who funded the so-called research? It sounds like a series of stereotypes, nothing more.


This article doesn't state that one group is more intelligent than the other.



From the article: "In the current study, Kanazawa argues that humans are evolutionarily designed to be conservative, caring mostly about their family and friends, and being liberal, caring about an indefinite number of genetically unrelated strangers they never meet or interact with, is evolutionarily novel. So more intelligent children may be more likely to grow up to be liberals..."

What about Han Chinese culture in which family and clan are important and strangers mean nothing? It seems to me that the study can be attacked as being flawed because of its eurocentrism. What about atheists who are so intelligent that they recognize the need of human beings to have religious faith because of the comfort it provides? Few atheists are that enlightened.


This article doesn't state what you suggest.

Other studies shows NPR listeners as the most well informed on world events, and viewers of FOX News the lowest.
Fox News Viewers Uninformed, NPR Listeners Not, Poll Suggests - Forbes

The sample is of 600 people in New Jersey. The sample is too small to be of any value for providing the truth of the matter asserted.

There's a few of them.

I'm not impressed.



In theory perhaps. In practice, not so much.

I don't agree about scientists who depend on grants issued by others because the appearance of bias is just as bad as the existence of bias. No one can trust someone who is dependent on one's enemy. His/her/its representations aren't credible.

Liberals like to think they have a higher consciousness than conservatives and libertarians. Imo that view of superiority is arrogant. I ask you, how can one have a higher level of consciousness and be arrogant at the same time?
 

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I take issue with the idea that right-wingers have lower intelligence. The term is too broad. Social conservatives....I can certainly get behind that.
 

Zipperfish

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I'm not impressed.

There may be others out there. I find that the lines between what constitutes a liberal vs conservatvie to be so blurred to be all that useful. Although I have anecdotally noted a correlation between liberalism and level of education (though that is not necessarily relatd to intelligence). Engineers, though, tend to be more conservative, in my experience.

It's like those studeis of intelligence and race. There are studies indicating blacks score lower than whites score lower than orinetals on IQ tests, but then there is so much controversey around the findings, any measure of objectivity is essentially removed.

I suspect it's true though I don't really care. I just say it now and then for no other reason than to be a troll. There are liberal conservatvies out there (people who are predisposed to liberalism, but brought up in conservatvioe families). And vice versa. That's gonna mess everything up.

I have many friends with phenomenonally high IQs and I wouldn't trust them to run a peanut stand.




I don't agree about scientists who depend on grants issued by others because the appearance of bias is just as bad as the existence of bias. No one can trust someone who is dependent on one's enemy. His/her/its representations aren't credible.

I disagree with this, just because you can always find an "appearance of bias." The best way to argue someone's point in to find fault in the science. It's a cop-out to say "Oh well the tobacco company paid for that study so clearly it's wrong."

Liberals like to think they have a higher consciousness than conservatives and libertarians. Imo that view of superiority is arrogant. I ask you, how can one have a higher level of consciousness and be arrogant at the same time?

According to my personality profiles that I've taken through work over the years I'm both liberal and arrogant, so I suppose I'd be a case in point. I'm trying to work on the arrogance though. I'm not what you'd call very liberal though, so I occassionally get irritated by liberal smug as well.

I really think people are born the way they are more than anything, and I think there is a correlation between certain frames of mind.
 

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There may be others out there. I find that the lines between what constitutes a liberal vs conservatvie to be so blurred to be all that useful. Although I have anecdotally noted a correlation between liberalism and level of education (though that is not necessarily relatd to intelligence). Engineers, though, tend to be more conservative, in my experience.

I live in California. It's a liberal place. It's also the home of magical thinking and a form of blind faith in social progress evolved from the blind faith in moral progress from an earlier era. I am generally unimpressed by the quality of non-STEM education these days. The caliber of education has declined palpably over the decades.

It's like those studeis of intelligence and race. There are studies indicating blacks score lower than whites score lower than orinetals on IQ tests, but then there is so much controversey around the findings, any measure of objectivity is essentially removed.

That's what came to mind when I read your post starting the current dialogue.

I suspect it's true though I don't really care. I just say it now and then for no other reason than to be a troll. There are liberal conservatvies out there (people who are predisposed to liberalism, but brought up in conservatvioe families). And vice versa. That's gonna mess everything up.

I usually know what is the right thing to do or way to think, but emotion prevents me from acting on it. It's the reptilian mind controlling the higher functions.

I have many friends with phenomenonally high IQs and I wouldn't trust them to run a peanut stand.

I know many lawyers who are very intelligent, but who lack common sense.






I disagree with this, just because you can always find an "appearance of bias." The best way to argue someone's point in to find fault in the science. It's a cop-out to say "Oh well the tobacco company paid for that study so clearly it's wrong."

The codes of conduct for professionals of every type emphasize that permitting the creation of an appearance of bias is as unethical as the existence of bias. I think these codes represent the best way of thinking about the subject.



According to my personality profiles that I've taken through work over the years I'm both liberal and arrogant, so I suppose I'd be a case in point. I'm trying to work on the arrogance though. I'm not what you'd call very liberal though, so I occassionally get irritated by liberal smug as well.

Even very hard and cruel people can be kind. Each of us is both good and bad, liberal and conservative, sinner and saint. Education, genetics and life experience determine the precise mix.

I really think people are born the way they are more than anything, and I think there is a correlation between certain frames of mind.

Each of us becomes several different people during the course of a lifetime. We can only perceive this in retrospect.
 

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and your opinion is worth...what exactly?



Which one he's been married two or three times as I recall.

I think him and Trump are having a contest to see who can have the most ex wives.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Limbaugh announced soon that he is going to hang it up and retire his microphone. A great advance for human civilization, if you ask me. He'll try to make it seem like it did it voluntarily, but it's because people aren't listening to him as much as they used to.

New Ratings: Conservative Talk Ratings Fall | The Moderate Voice

You all most likely know who he is, but on the chance you don't, he's a legendary conservative/right-wing radio pundit who's been railing against liberals and Democrats for years. He began his popularity back when Bill Clinton became President. He had a little bit of a lull in popularity during the George W. Bush years because he didn't have a Democratic President to attack. With the election of Obama, he's supposed to have come back and be popular again, but it's not exactly working out.

Limbaugh has a rap sheet of controversial comments that goes, like, 170 pages on the website of liberal media watchdog Media Matters. Some of his recent things: mocking Japan in the aftermath of the earthquake there and mockingly speaking in fake Chinese during the state visit of the Chinese President.

Speaking ONLY for myself I can think of no other American who I am less interested in, unless it's Hillary or Trump!
 

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Well it was several years ago a fellow I was doing work for shared with me that Rash was raking in about forty million a year for running his mouth. Good to know where our priorities are.
 

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Well it was several years ago a fellow I was doing work for shared with me that Rash was raking in about forty million a year for running his mouth. Good to know where our priorities are.

No worse than Dennis Rodman the basketball player! :) :) :)
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Limbaugh announced soon that he is going to hang it up and retire his microphone. A great advance for human civilization, if you ask me. He'll try to make it seem like it did it voluntarily, but it's because people aren't listening to him as much as they used to.

Rush is on the radio now if you all want to tune in.

THREAD FAIL
 

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Lush Rimbaugh provides more evidence that one does not need charisma, talent, intelligence, nor wisdom to become wealthy.