The heart of the matter is at what point is the evolved pond scum considered human and thereby protected by law against consumption by other evolved pond scum, DB? Is a person a person no matter how small or evolved?
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The heart of the matter is at what point is the evolved pond scum considered human and thereby protected by law against consumption by other evolved pond scum, DB? Is a person a person no matter how small or evolved?
We do have biological origins, pond scum is in there don't you forget it, ponds got water. Aperson is a person no matter how small or evolved, it makes them taste good.
As I indicated a lot less than belief. I mean rising from the dead in a hot desert cave after 3 days? Or a virgin birth?? Perhaps they had artificial insemination back then of a sort, BUT.....do you really think all those born by such means today are the son of God???
As for the garden of Eden.....Phaugh!! What being (even the lowest on our earth) would ever dump their children anywhere with instruction on what NOT to do without supervision?? Of course this is belief, but not reasonable.
This was a saga produced by and for those of that era, just as the Sun God was for those even further back. t is time, if you must believe in a God, and to at least give him/her or it, better attributes than most humans have!!
LOL.....from your list:-
Argumentum ad Mysteriam ("Argument from Mystery.") A darkened chamber, incense, chanting or drumming, bowing and kneeling, special robes or headgear, holy rituals and massed voices reciting sacred mysteries in an unknown tongue have a quasi-hypnotic effect and can often persuade more strongly than any logical argument. The Protestant Reformation was in large part a rejection of this fallacy. When used knowingly and deliberately this fallacy is particularly vicious and accounts for some of the fearsome persuasive power of cults. An example of an Argumentum ad Mysteriam is the "Long Ago and Far Away" fallacy, that facts, evidence, practices or arguments from ancient times, distant lands and/or "exotic" cultures acquire a special gravitas or ethos simply because of their antiquity, language or origin, e.g., chanting Holy Scriptures in their original languages, preferring the Greek, Latin or Assyrian Christian Liturgies over their vernacular versions, or using classic or newly made-up Latin names for fallacies to prove their validity. See also, Esoteric Knowledge.
Do you know anyone who embraces the practices associated with this fallacy, bb? I don't.
So.....you go for the esoteric or do you not even read what you post??
Motar ....of course I don't.........I am simply pointing out the silliness of Ludow's posts.
You both need to dip into reality from time to time. For goodness sake, I simply quoted one of Ludow's posts and you both think the quote was mine!!!! IIT comes from the Ludow"s own response to my original post!
Not as silly, dearie, as some of yours....................like the one on weather stats in Montreal!
So, the Montreal Weather forecaster is simply making it up just for fun?? I wonder why she is still on the air??Not as silly, dearie, as some of yours....................like the one on weather stats in Montreal!
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/july-2016-warmest-global-temperature-record.
A lot of statistics that don't mean a hell of a lot.............like the difference between 0.81C and 0.87C, which is nothing considering other criteria that may or may not have been measured. Humidity and wind speed can have a greater effect than a degree or two of temperature. You compare readings now to the late 1800s......................not a valid comparison given the difference in the number of stations doing the measuring between 18xx and now. How many readings are misread to start with? From a personal stand point I found this July to be among the cooler ones I've experienced.
The Catholic Church certainly used Latin in the not too distant past, incense, and what about the chants?? Chanting and drumming are also done still.
Well I would say you are the exception, considering the rest of the world experienced the opposite. But, if you wish to believe all the more severe weather; i.e. super storms, unusual flooding, huge amounts of rain falling in different areas in a very short time, etc. etc.; is merely a blip, not worth paying attention to, that is your prerogative. However, highjacking another thread to gain points is not fair.
As stated previously, bb, I don't know anyone who practices thus. I find it helpful when evaluating Christianity to first strip away denomination which means/counts for nothing. The essential measure of a Christian is Christ-likeness.
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It's supposed to be but rather too few seem to measure up. A gun toting, gay hating, whites only, Capitalist Jesus is a reflection of the "Christian" but surly not of the Christ
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." (2 Corinthians 4:18 NIV)
"fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith." (Hebrews 12:2 NIV)
Well, I would say that Jesus (at times) showed some evidence of what I consider the Christ spirit. However, I have personally met a fair number in my life that I would consider were imbued with that same spirit at one point in their lives. It is not due to being being a son or daughter of God but being able to tap into what is available to all of us.
Indulging in blind belief in the words meant for people who existed long ago, makes no sense. It has very little to do with sight or words, but more to do with listening to the universal music. Even so, one does not suddenly or even over a lifetime become perfect. We should not have needed an earthly type school to perfect our soul. But here we are. We need to experience to learn, just as every other living being in this particular environment.
What is Christ like, LL?
"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death—even death on a cross!" (Philippians 2:6-8 NIV)
I personally know folks who live like this. Humble. Giving.
