Republicans do some soul-searching after Romney loss

BaalsTears

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Do you Canadians know what mirror imaging is? That's what you're doing now. You are analyzing a cohort of the American people based on the assumption that they think like Canadians and that the things that resonate with Canadians resonates with American conservatives.

I truly love the Canadian people and their wonderful country. But I must point out that mirror imaging is a poor substitute for specific analysis.
 

petros

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What do we hear some liberals/leftists say today? Homosexuality should be celebrated, grumblings that pedophilia should be considered a sexual orientation (normalization), there's nothing wrong with abortion (child-sacrifice), no harm serving any "god" (idolatry), do what you want (hedonism/unrestricted lifestyle).

See what I mean?! Warning! Warning! We're bringing God's judgment upon us!
God already judged you the instant you judged somebody else and to top it all off you have renedered unto Caesar what isn't Caesar's. Your heart, mind and soul.

I'll make note of asking He go easy on your doomed Soul when I'm asking for forgivness of my own sins.
 

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That is hopeful. When the situation is dire that is not the time to dig in your heels, compromise is usually required.

It is hopeful, SLM........after the bitter acrimony that marked much of the election, it is really good to read that the parties are showing signs of bi-partisanship.
 

petros

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It is hopeful, SLM........after the bitter acrimony that marked much of the election, it is really good to read that the parties are showing signs of bi-partisanship.

I don't believe they have any other choice other than find common ground.
 

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Do you Canadians know what mirror imaging is? That's what you're doing now. You are analyzing a cohort of the American people based on the assumption that they think like Canadians and that the things that resonate with Canadians resonates with American conservatives.

Ultimately we're all human. We dont think that differently. Our cultures are not a whole lot different. Ive been to the US quite a few times and at times forgot I was in another country.
 

In Between Man

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God already judged you the instant you judged somebody else

Then He just judged you.

and to top it all off you have renedered unto Caesar what isn't Caesar's. Your heart, mind and soul.

What are you talking about? Of course I've rendered to God what belongs to Him, hence the opposition to His enemies.

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."

I'll make note of asking He go easy on your doomed Soul when I'm asking for forgivness of my own sins.

That's condemnation, which is much worse than judging someone!

I don't believe they have any other choice other than find common ground.

Let's wait to see how this whole succession thing plays out first. ;)
 

WLDB

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The status quo is acceptable.

Acceptable to who? Romney and Ryan have handles their loss very graciously. Judging by what a number of Republicans have said in the last week they may not be going back to political deadlock. That tactic clearly hasnt worked for anyone.

Let's wait to see how this whole succession thing plays out first. ;)

Last time they tried that 600,000 people died and no state was able to get out. Its strange that some believe they can be successful with it now.
 

petros

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Then He just judged you.
For?

What are you talking about? Of course I've rendered to God what belongs to Him, hence the opposition to His enemies.

"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
No you haven't. You use God to justify your political affiliations and motives. God doesn't have political enemies. He doesn't care for politics in the least.


That's condemnation, which is much worse than judging someone!
You've condemended yourself because you choose to judge on behalf of God. You've put yourself into the seat of Moses and God.

I wouldn't want to be in your sandals.
 

In Between Man

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HAHAHAHA! For judging me! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY MISS THAT? All of us are constantly judging each other! Again, how could you possibly miss that? Post before ya think?

No you haven't. You use God to justify your political affiliations and motives. God doesn't have political enemies. He doesn't care for politics in the least.

"God doesn't care..." You might want to think about that one.

You've condemended yourself because you choose to judge on behalf of God. You've put yourself into the seat of Moses and God.

Oh those horrible Christians and their constant judging! I don't have to judge on behalf of God. It's all right there in the bible guy. All we have to do is understand the biblical position to know exactly what God has decreed, He literally couldn't make it any easier for us. But hey, if you'd rather pretend He's cool with sin,(idolatry) maybe He'll go with your standard of morality on Judgment Day. :roll:
 

BaalsTears

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Ultimately we're all human. We dont think that differently. Our cultures are not a whole lot different. Ive been to the US quite a few times and at times forgot I was in another country.
The political cultures of America and Canada are very different. In Canada most people want what is best for the country as a whole. In America people want what is best for the tribe or faction regardless of the impact on the country. That's a fundamental difference.

...Judging by what a number of Republicans have said in the last week they may not be going back to political deadlock. That tactic clearly hasnt worked for anyone...
Do you know what duplicity is?
 

petros

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"God doesn't care..." You might want to think about that one.

I don't have to judge on behalf of God.
There you go again. You just judged me.

You are taking God's job by judging gays.

Well, Little Caesar perhaps it's time cast aside your love for the Republic as instructed by the man who you say is your Teacher.
God doesn't care about politics in the least.

So why do you judge on behalf of God? Do you christians have a problem with us real Christians?
 

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It sure did!

Barry IRREFUTABLY flip-flopped on "gay marriage":

Timeline: Obama and same sex marriage - YouTube

Sure looks like Barry "changed his platform according to whatever would get him elected" if you ask this cat. Eh Karrie? What's up with that? Huh?, *jabs in ribs*... :)

I'd also like to point out that although Romney flip-flopped on the issue of abortion, which makes it difficult for one to truly know where he stands, we know EXACTLY where Obama stands on the issue, and his position is not one us conservatives can support.

That would depend on if you are talking about real conservatives or social conservatives. There are a good many people that are fiscal conservative but social liberal that will hold their noses and vote for the more liberal candidate because it is easier to sway fiscal policy than to deal with fundies on social policy.

The status quo is acceptable.

Why is it that you wish to be part of the problem instead of helping with the solution?
 

In Between Man

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There you go again. You just judged me.

And you just judged me for judging you. Seriously, you get it now right? This game is getting old.

You are taking God's job by judging gays.

Your use of the words "taking God's job" and "judge on behalf of God" is an accusation of self-righteousness in my character that's just not there. We're all here to state our judgments on every topic under the sun, and as a Christian, my judgments NATURALLY line up with the biblical position. Attacks on me are only because you CANNOT DENY that the bible, which has stood the test of time, and Jesus Christ, condemn homosexual behavior. (Shoot the messenger because the message is undeniable and challenges my untested theology)

Well, Little Caesar perhaps it's time cast aside your love for the Republic as instructed by the man who you say is your Teacher.

Notice how I've rendered to God my mind by willfully conforming my thoughts to His? See how my judgments line up with His Word, the biblical position, and yours don't?

God doesn't care about politics in the least.

Then I guess it was wrong for Christians to get politically involved to end slavery, child labor, and racism.

So why do you judge on behalf of God? Do you christians have a problem with us real Christians?

lol

That would depend on if you are talking about real conservatives or social conservatives. There are a good many people that are fiscal conservative but social liberal that will hold their noses and vote for the more liberal candidate because it is easier to sway fiscal policy than to deal with fundies on social policy.

If the only difference between a "real conservative" and a solid liberal is a fiscal stance, then your description does not meet the definition of conservative according to the strictest interpretation. Since the politics currently at play are "downwind" (indicative) of the current culture, then it's obvious that governments don't just represent us fiscally but mainly culturally.

With how important culture is, and the strictest definition of "conservative" on hand, your description of a "real conservative" is nothing more than APPEASEMENT of liberalism (a unrestricted lifestyle), if not just out-right liberalism masquerading as "real conservative".

"Social liberal" = LIBERAL
 

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Republican calls for 'brutally honest' review after Romney loss - World - CBC News

"We clearly got beat and we need to recognize that," Jindal said.
His comment came after he criticized Romney over a remark the former presidential hopeful made to donors. In a call Wednesday, Romney cast his loss in a different light, asserting that Obama won re-election because of the "gifts" the president had already provided to blacks, Hispanics and young voters and because of the president's effort to paint Romney as anti-immigrant.
Jindal told reporters that Romney's comments, initially reported by the New York Times and the L.A. Times, were "absolutely wrong."
“We have got to stop dividing the American voters,” Jindal said. “If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage, and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly. One, we are fighting for 100 per cent of the votes. And second, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period.”
 

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Liberal conservatism? I think the Republicans already ran on self-contradicting ideology. In the past few years, Mitt Romney espoused any position he thought would get him votes.

Two things didn't work for Republicans this election:

1. Mitt Romney style flip flopping
2. Racist, theocratic, misogynistic conservative lunacy

The should try honesty and sanity in 2016.

Yes, liberal conservatism (i.e. economically liberal, socially conservative), which is what most modern conservative parties had been since Burke's time, until neo-conservatism reared its ugly head with its imperialism, neo-colonialism and fiscal liberalism.