Report: Trump was unfamiliar with the scope of the president's job when meeting Obama

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Hmmm... Those weren't what I had in mind when I said I agree with some of his policies.

If they're all illegal immigrants, then the US government probably knows nothing about them, so how will it distinguish the drug pushers from the rest?

And if it just sweeps them, that is an expensive proposition too. The government has to find them first. At first glance, an illegal looks like any other Hispanic. And you don't want to be deporting US citizens accidentally. That means first that they have to find a way to spot the illegalsfrom the crowd, and then confirm that they are illegal, and then send them back. That is massive bureaucracy when we are talking about millions of illegals.


I think I said before these initiatives will likely take several years. They will be brought down one or two reprobates at a time.
 
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I think the biggest asset may be the ability to handle people in a compatible manner where possible.


Well then, perhaps that proves Trump's idea of a wall is a good one! Is there a chance the guards they have there now aren't doing their jobs properly?

If I were trying to cross the US Border, I would not do it alone. I'd time it with many others along the border. A guard can't be everywhere at once, so some will get through.

I think I said before these initiatives will likely take several years. They will be brought down one or tow reprobates at a time.

Isn't that what they've been doing for years already, catching them when they catch them? If the government doesn't know where an illegal is, how does it find him?

Never mind where he us. The government must be aware of his existence first. An illegal is just a face in the crowd.
 

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Oddly enough, there are fences and guards now.


I don't see anything particularly odd about it!

If I were trying to cross the US Border, I would not do it alone. I'd time it with many others along the border. A guard can't be everywhere at once, so some will get through.


Maybe, but I've always felt the best number of people involved in keeping a secret is one!
 

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I don't see anything particularly odd about it!


Maybe, but I've always felt the best number of people involved in keeping a secret is one!

But if we're all illegals, we'd all have an interest in keeping it secret after the crossing. And before the crossing, we'd still be in Mexico.
 

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Trump was being polite. He could have said 'you are sitting in my chair. ' Did you like the way Obama did his 'in charge' thing with the press when he was ending the meeting and he was treating them like they were 'little rascals' who would get out of hand if they didn't have a President who could guide them to the door. Perhaps a 'we're done for the day.' would have been understood by the press after 8 years. Trump is just leaving the press behind when he wants, I wonder if they feel slighted?

The more I look at the candidates the more I think Trump should just make himself 'the Boss' and put both houses under House arrest and the ones he picks for appointments has a mini trial where he interviews them before the House and the Press in live debates. The 'press' would then be in the best position to verify the 'claims' the fastest and be the most accurate. The ones with the best articles would be the Press that gets the front row seats.
I would bet a few that are throwing their own names around would not be doing that. If he wants a secure and efficient Gov they should be chipped and clipped of a private life while they are employed by the Public. Workers would be watched but not as much. The best Government oversight would be retired Politicians during the 5 years they cannot lobby for corporations. Tag them up with University Students interested in Politics and the Press and that would take them off the streets. Eliminating the Student Loans would buy a lot of loyalty until the needed changes have been made as that paring would become to be known as Government Watchdogs and they were quite effective in the past and that is why they were eliminated.
Give them access to last years books and any deviations would be found out and with a free media word would also get circulated. Social Media that uses real faces would then get to react to the news articles.
If the Science News says NY and most major cities on the east coast better move to higher ground because of flooding that could be the snow fall in the interiors and a fast melt when the record snows change to record rains in a pattern that just get bigger and bigger as the years pass.
The world should have a race to see who picks up Soros on a war crimes charge first. Good example why power should end when they hit 65 or cross the stupid line before they are 65. Looks like the US had said the ICC has no authority over them and if any crimes come up their internal justice system will handle it. With watchdogs feeding the truth to the voters the people could be running the show and clean up the voting issues at the same time. Taxes and voting both via secure server. (Taxes done at home and electronically filed the way netfile works in Canada)

But if we're all illegals, we'd all have an interest in keeping it secret after the crossing. And before the crossing, we'd still be in Mexico.
It would be a shorter fence if it was put up further south. Say down in Panama and use Mexico as the old folks/orphanage home and leave the other land to mobile healthy people.
 

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A man who rose to fame using the catchphrase "you're fired" now faces the gargantuan task of assembling a presidential administration capable of running the most powerful nation in the world.

And that involves hiring people. A lot of people.

According to the Partnership for Public Service, a nonpartisan and nonprofit organization that began working with both major party nominees earlier this year to help prepare the eventual winner to begin the transition process, the incoming administration will be charged with filling the jobs of as many as about 4,000 political appointees.

That's a heavy lift for any new administration, and a particularly daunting one for a president-elect who was reportedly surprised to find out after winning the election that he would have to replace the White House staff at the end of President Barack Obama's term.

And while the president-elect has wide authority to select several hundred incoming members of the White House staff — like his chief advisers and communications teams — more than 1,000 incoming appointees must be confirmed by the United States Senate.


That includes big-name posts like the heads of the Defense, State and Justice Departments, but also a host of assistant and deputy secretaries, cabinet advisers and ambassadors.

"It's just a very, very complicated task, particularly when you get outside the White House staff," said Mark Abramson, the president of Leadership Inc. and an expert on government executive management.

The new administration must also assemble an infrastructure capable of selecting the armies of policy professionals, lawyers, scientists, schedulers, speechwriters and press secretaries who populate each federal agency. Beyond White House staffers and positions requiring Senate approval, there are also more than 2,000 political appointees included in the leadership of the engines of government, from the USDA to the Justice Department to NASA.

Meanwhile, Trump has proposed a hiring freeze for many federal employees, aimed at ultimately reducing the size of the federal government through attrition.

A huge initial challenge for applicants to jobs requiring a greenlight from the Senate will be vetting, a task for which many — perhaps most — potential contenders may be unprepared.

"If you're going to get a Senate appointment, you have to get financial clearances, security clearances, FBI field investigations," said Abramson, who added that such background research can be particularly lengthy for candidates without significant previous experience in government.

"There's a lot of pieces to the puzzle and there's an enormous amount of applicants," he added. "It's going to take a long time to get sorted out."

Donald Trump's Administration Will Have to Hire as Many as 4,000 People - NBC News
 

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A man who rose to fame using the catchphrase "you're fired" now faces the gargantuan task of assembling a presidential administration capable of running the most powerful nation in the world.

And that involves hiring people. A lot of people.

Donald Trump's Administration Will Have to Hire as Many as 4,000 People - NBC News


I think what Trump is unfamiliar with, is the bureaucrapic side of it. He knows what has to be done and probably the right people to oversee the execution of the endeavours! He'll learn how to find the washroom in the first five minutes!
 

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No president has had to do this before Trump....it seems...

Gotta be something new this year...

No. What they are saying is he in not a Politician and has no idea as to how it all works which is why his promise to 'cut' the staff in Washington was an uniformed promise....
 

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Perhaps he'll actually get stuff accomplished.

I don't think that any president or government can fix everything that's wrong, but the good administrations, regardless of political leaning, stand out.

People are unsure and that's what is causing so much disharmony. I just want to slap all the idiots that figure the world has gone to hell and their screaming will somehow turn things around. The Donald is just ignoring it.

Since he is a businessman, he will go with what he knows. Like every president before him, Trump has to be given the chance to ply his brand.
 

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No. What they are saying is he in not a Politician and has no idea as to how it all works which is why his promise to 'cut' the staff in Washington was an uniformed promise....


Are there not ways of getting informed before a person actually becomes President? It's no different from any other job- before the first day on the job they are NOT experienced whether it be president, plumber or candle stick maker. After they start the job they start gaining experience as it will be with Trump and was with Lincoln, F.D.R., J.F.K, and D.D.E.
 

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Something The Donald will soon run into is what Gordon Campbell ran into when he became Premier of BC. That is how long it takes from the time an order leaves his desk to the time the bureaucracy gets around to implementing it. Trump has the same problem. A businessman unused to the pace of government and a civil service that largely opposes him and often goes out of it's way to make things difficult.
 

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the 4-year mad...it's happening. and Trump hasn't even been sworn-in. Lol