Replace Canada day with Reconciliation Day?

Curious Cdn

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Between the arrival of Columbus and the arrival of the first settlers, 90% of the indigenous population of the Americas were wiped out by small pox and other introduced diseases. Prior to that, most people were involved in some form of agriculture but the decimation of the population made those practices untenable. The life expectancy prior to invasion was probably longer than that of Europe. After the settlers arrived, the life expectancy dropped dramatically because of disease an the whole sale slaughter by settlers.

If Europeans hadn't made it to the New World, someone else would have, eventually (The Chinese were already capable), likely bringing the same diseases. It was inevitable. You cannot blame Columbus, Europeans or exploration for that. One way or the other pestilence was going to come to the isolated Americas. It was an unfortunate accident. It was NOT a genocide.
 

DaSleeper

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Funny how the same people who are willing to judge our ancestors with the morality standards of the present ..... (As if they brought smallpox and such ,on purpose, with full knowledge that natives had no immunity :rolleyes: )

These folks are some of those who are quite willing to give ISIS head cutters a pass, and blame American imperialism for all the evil in the middle east.....
 

Curious Cdn

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Funny how the same people who are willing to judge our ancestors with the morality standards of the present ..... (As if they brought smallpox and such ,on purpose, with full knowledge that natives had no immunity :rolleyes: )

These folks are some of those who are quite willing to give ISIS head cutters a pass, and blame American imperialism for all the evil in the middle east.....

Germs were discovered hundreds of years after Columbus was around. Middle Easterners have been slaughtering each other for millenia. They even started writing down their conflicts back in the Bronze Age. Those records are still available to us and are commonly found in every library and still most houses. Guess what? The exact same people who are killing each other now were brutilizing each other 3000 years ago .. the exact same ones. Persians were killing Jews, Phillistines were at war, Syriacs were at war. Egypt was the regional superpower, then and they gave no quarter, responded ferociously and killed and enslaved their conquered.

None of them had ever heard of America.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The life expectancy prior to Columbus was 35.

Before 1492: New World Was No Eden
Sure was. On both sides of the Atlantic.



You are assuming that we would have made no progress if y'all never came.
 

Curious Cdn

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Sure was. On both sides of the Atlantic.



You are assuming that we would have made no progress if y'all never came.

Where's the effect of the Black Death? A quarter of the planet's population died and it took three centuries for us to recover to pre-plague levels. Europe was practically wiped out. Eurasia may have lost as many as 200 million dead. All that I see on that graph is a nice, steady "progress as usual" slope.

Rubbish propaganda ... lies, damned lies and statistics.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I'm curious....why did you get a temporary ban from this site?
One of the mods at the time didn't care much for me.

What could be more horrid than showing an affection for underage girls?
Murder, genocide, rape, arson, talking in the cinema, wearing stripes with plaids.

Seems the Brit gets away with such things and to my knowledge never gets at minimum a warning.
My knowledge is probably less extensive than yours, so I can't really comment.

He is very right wing though...hmmm.
About whom are you speaking?

Must be why he gets a pass.

I see a lot of this these days.
Don't know what you're commenting on at this point. Happy Canada Day!
 
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pgs

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I'm curious....why did you get a temporary ban from this site?

What could be more horrid than showing an affection for underage girls?

Seems the Brit gets away with such things and to my knowledge never gets at minimum a warning.

He is very right wing though...hmmm.

Must be why he gets a pass.

I see a lot of this these days.
Whatever you're on about , I don't really know or care .

Purer than you.
I won't argue that . I am well aware that I have a mixture of blood and am a simple mutt , you on the other hand take the position of part of a we . You do realise of course there were over 50 separate languages spoken in N.America prior to the white scourge .
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Whatever you're on about , I don't really know or care .


I won't argue that . I am well aware that I have a mixture of blood and am a simple mutt , you on the other hand take the position of part of a we . You do realise of course there were over 50 separate languages spoken in N.America prior to the white scourge .
I won't argue blood quantum nonsense at all. Happy Canada Day!
 

Murphy

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Murphy

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My point? Red food colouring was found to be dangerous, and replaced by another red food colouring whose properties are still unknown. I forgot to add that Canada's flag is red and white. That program's Canada's youth to consume red food colouring.

(cue Cliffy)

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