Remembrance Day

Dexter Sinister

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and it will continue as long as the majority only see's killing as an answer.
I doubt that it's a majority, but sometimes killing *is* the only answer. Fine noble ideals you're expressing, but the real world's a little more intrusive than they allow. As long as there are people and organizations and nations willing to kill to spread...well, whatever the Hell it is they think they're spreading, and you know there are, we have to be prepared to defend ourselves and others against them. My father's generation went overseas to fight a monstrous evil; are you suggesting they were wrong to do so, that they should just have let the Wehrmacht spread Nazi oppression and insanity everywhere?
 

talloola

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I find as time goes by the younger generations distance themselves from the big
wars 1 and 2, and I am also reading that some are also starting to blame the u.s.
for those problems, many of them don't really know what happened, and they are
beginning to build their own stories, and assumptions.
We, who know exactly what happened, know different, and feel the pain of those
times and understand what had to be done.
Wars cannot all be bundled together and labeled as one, and labeled as being the
wrong thing to do, (sure it was the wrong this to do for the Germans and the
Japanese), in those wars, but britain and the british empire at that time, and sometime later
the u.s., cannot stand around and just watch Hitler and the Emperor of Japan
push their way across the world and take whatever they want.
Whatever gripes the Japanese government had should have been dealt with thru
government channels, and we all know how that mentally disturbed Hitler used
his brain, kill all the jews and take over europe, and poland and russia, he was
a sick monster, who somehow had hoodwinked the german people into believing
him, what a filthy shame.
When the wars did start, sure, many awful things start to happen on both sides,
but those who started them, had to be stopped.
We are not all of that certain religion who won't ever fight back, just turn your
cheek and let the enemy hit you again, no way.
 

einmensch

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The Japanese interred during WW2, their property taken should definitely wear poppies--just think they could have been gassed. The immigrants white, blue and green should also wear poppies--Remembrance Day is specific to Canada's veterans--
but in all fairness Canada did much to feed the starving nations after the war, they treated prisonrers extremely well ( one of my two uncles was a British POW sent to Canada--he only had good words for the Canadians)
 

ironsides

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Yes, being a enemy POW held in Canada or the U.S. was better than anyplace else.

Didn't know we or Canada held "British POW's though. :smile:
 

einmensch

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The MAD MEN--Saddam was attacked on a lie, Afghanistan was attacked on a lie-or are they still searching for Osama--
Our soldiers are supporting what, who in Afghanistan--a guy that cheats and wins no contest--say Bahah
 

ironsides

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The MAD MEN--Saddam was attacked on a lie, Afghanistan was attacked on a lie-or are they still searching for Osama--
Our soldiers are supporting what, who in Afghanistan--a guy that cheats and wins no contest--say Bahah


"The MAD MEN--Saddam was attacked on a lie Was he really, you don't believe that it was rumors of WMD's that started the war do you? Afghanistan was attacked on a lie-or are they still searching for Osama--YES most definatly still looking.
Our soldiers are supporting what, who in Afghanistan--a guy that cheats and wins no contest--say Bahah " The UN and each other.
 

JLM

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I find as time goes by the younger generations distance themselves from the big
wars 1 and 2, and I am also reading that some are also starting to blame the u.s.
for those problems, many of them don't really know what happened, and they are
beginning to build their own stories, and assumptions.
We, who know exactly what happened, know different, and feel the pain of those
times and understand what had to be done.
Wars cannot all be bundled together and labeled as one, and labeled as being the
wrong thing to do, (sure it was the wrong this to do for the Germans and the
Japanese), in those wars, but britain and the british empire at that time, and sometime later
the u.s., cannot stand around and just watch Hitler and the Emperor of Japan
push their way across the world and take whatever they want.
Whatever gripes the Japanese government had should have been dealt with thru
government channels, and we all know how that mentally disturbed Hitler used
his brain, kill all the jews and take over europe, and poland and russia, he was
a sick monster, who somehow had hoodwinked the german people into believing
him, what a filthy shame.
When the wars did start, sure, many awful things start to happen on both sides,
but those who started them, had to be stopped.
We are not all of that certain religion who won't ever fight back, just turn your
cheek and let the enemy hit you again, no way.

You have that right, Talloola. I believe in freedom of speech, but it should be responsible speech- not the B.S. that some of these freaks try to peddle about the holocaust being a myth. There are still lots of Poles and Jews alive today that can very well set the story straight, if only asked. The world can NEVER be allowed to forget or make light of the atrocities perpetrated by Hitler and his ilk.
 

einmensch

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Yes, being a enemy POW held in Canada or the U.S. was better than anyplace else.

Didn't know we or Canada held "British POW's though. :smile:

Don't give the US too much credit. Here are links--many of the camps across Canada were similar-my uncle was a POW in Western Canada--same words--treated exremely well--Much respect for the Canadians
Heritage Perspectives: Prisoners of War

Canada's Forgotten PoW Camps | CBC Archives

U 35 Second Watch Officer Hans-Joachim Roters
 

talloola

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The MAD MEN--Saddam was attacked on a lie, Afghanistan was attacked on a lie-or are they still searching for Osama--
Our soldiers are supporting what, who in Afghanistan--a guy that cheats and wins no contest--say Bahah

Yes, Iraq and Afghanistan definitely are two 'different' wars to discuss, that's for
sure, but when we wear the poppy we think only of the death and suffering,
not the politics.
 

Liberalman

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When we stop electing government that prefer war over peace we will only remember the old dead instead of the new dead
 

Liberalman

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That might carry some weight if we had control over every other government on earth.

All people have control of their government so they can do it.

If the people in Afghanistan were to rise up against the Taliban and kicked them out then there would be peace.

The only problem is that they have to kick out the occupying forces, which are the cause the war to go on.

Bin Laden was the main reason for the invasion he is not there so they have to go home their mission ended

The solution is simple but politics are making it complex
 

gerryh

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YEp, that alone, detracts from any credibility the person has.


but telling someone to off themselves or move out of the country of their birth makes one so much more credible...right? f*ckin hypocrites.
 

AnnaG

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That might carry some weight if we had control over every other government on earth.
And if we had a government made of warmongers. I don't see that. I see a government that wanted to help Afghani people develop their own government without being over-run by Taliban.
If others have a differing viewpoint about what our gov't needs to send troops for, that's life.
 

Goober

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The Japanese interred during WW2, their property taken should definitely wear poppies--just think they could have been gassed. The immigrants white, blue and green should also wear poppies--Remembrance Day is specific to Canada's veterans--
but in all fairness Canada did much to feed the starving nations after the war, they treated prisonrers extremely well ( one of my two uncles was a British POW sent to Canada--he only had good words for the Canadians)

From what I have gleaned from history at that time - Canada went from fighting Germans to feeding them - The Marshall Plan was brilliant - What other countries did the same after winning a War- It says a lot about the nation,there people and what was considered to be the right thing to do.- I am referring to prior to WW2 and after Korea.
 

ironsides

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Don't give the US too much credit. Here are links--many of the camps across Canada were similar-my uncle was a POW in Western Canada--same words--treated exremely well--Much respect for the Canadians
Heritage Perspectives: Prisoners of War

Canada's Forgotten PoW Camps | CBC Archives

U 35 Second Watch Officer Hans-Joachim Roters

My Grandfather was a German POW, caught on Omaha beach, spent the war in Texas, where he was allowed to leave the prison camp every day to work in town make and save money. He must have liked it, because when the war was over, he went back to Germany, then came back and applied for and got U.S. citizenship. Both our relatives were the lucky ones.