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JLM

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You wouldn't be sharing cigarettes like that today,they are very expensive

We all know those mooches of cigarettes


They take a little more "buying power" today due to increased taxes. I can remember back around 1950 when a 1/2 lb. can of tobacco was $1.55 and a pack of Vogue papers was about a nickel. Not being a smoker I have no idea what the cost is today. As a kid growing up I can remember the worst aspect of smoking was "it will stunt your growth". :) :)
 

davesmom

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"it will stunt your growth".

Death by carcinoma tends to do that.




For years I have been trying to find someone who can explain why smoking has decreased but cancer rates have increased to epidemic proportions.
Since you seem to be one of the anti-smoking, 'it causes cancer' people maybe you can answer that question for me.
 

JLM

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For years I have been trying to find someone who can explain why smoking has decreased but cancer rates have increased to epidemic proportions.
Since you seem to be one of the anti-smoking, 'it causes cancer' people maybe you can answer that question for me.


Perhaps with my meagre knowledge of the matter, I can help you a tiny bit. People are living longer, people by in large aren't getting the exercise they used to and people are eating more processed food and less fibre. But yes, you raise a good point. Exercise in itself takes care of a lot of other sh*t.

"it will stunt your growth".

Death by carcinoma tends to do that.


If my memory serves me correctly it was about 1964 when smoking was first associated with Cancer. I quit cigarettes at the time.
 

Cannuck

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For years I have been trying to find someone who can explain why smoking has decreased but cancer rates have increased to epidemic proportions.
Since you seem to be one of the anti-smoking, 'it causes cancer' people maybe you can answer that question for me.
It's rather simple dear.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

"As the overall cancer death rate has declined, the number of cancer survivors has increased. These trends show that progress is being made against the disease, but much work remains. Although rates of smoking, a major cause of cancer, have declined, the U.S. population is aging, and cancer rates increase with age. Obesity, another risk factor for cancer, is also increasing."

It's really not rocket science. It just seems like it to people like you.
 

Blackleaf

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Remember when David Dickinson was white and Michael Jackson was black?
 

JamesBondo

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Yep, as I said, you've never witnessed an execution. So, you don't really understand.

He doesn't really understand what?

how you feel? You might be correct.

how he feels about the death penalty? Oh, I'm pretty certain that he understands how he feels about that.
 

davesmom

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Attention - Dave's Mum, I wouldn't take any crap from that simpleton!


Simpletons are simpletons; stupid can't be fixed. Simpletons don't even understand how simple they sound! Not worth replying to. :)

Perhaps with my meagre knowledge of the matter, I can help you a tiny bit. People are living longer, people by in large aren't getting the exercise they used to and people are eating more processed food and less fibre. But yes, you raise a good point. Exercise in itself takes care of a lot of other sh*t.

If my memory serves me correctly it was about 1964 when smoking was first associated with Cancer. I quit cigarettes at the time.


I have done extensive research on the subject of smoking. You are right, it was in the 60s that the anti-smoking campaign began to gain steam. At first nobody took it seriously. So the anti-smokers wisely decided to turn it into an emotional matter. 'It hurts the children', 'tens of thousands people die every year.......', blah, blah, blah.
Well you know how people react when emotions are at play! Get the picture?


You are on the right track too about diet and exercise. Food is polluted before it even hits the market. But there is so much more! The increase in population increases the demand for manufacturing and resources that emit pollution; the increase in chemicals used; increased number of motor vehicles and air travel, increased warfare, excessive packaging, treated building lumber, electronic gadgets that all emit radiation. Just to name a few.


When those factors and agents were not present in society and just about everybody smoked, cancer was rare. So people with a functioning brain should be able to figure out what is really causing cancer and other illnesses.


I wish I could go on about how our lifestyles are killing us and how deceptive statistics are and how delusional and deceptive the information is about health. But I haven't got time and the ideologists who live in a dream fog wouldn't listen anyway.
Cheers!


Oh just to add one more thing. Smokers are going back to disregarding the ridiculous claims of the anti-smokers. Some of the most recent claims and restrictions are so off the wall that no intelligent person could possible not see through the propaganda!
 

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They don' get shanked or beaten up. They are kept in protective custody. That's one of the reasons their care is so expensive. They get food, clothing, lodging, health care, exercise time and protection all at the expense of the society they damaged. The only hard part is the isolation.
I might feel better about it if they were put in the general prison population. Let them find out for themselves how it feels to be a 'victim'!
Who says humans don't have animal instincts,way to go Davesmom
Isolation is one topic of conversation but how Isolation is implemented and controlled is another topic of conversation,
Nothing humane about isolation,particularly when you mingle it with mental health issues ,go ahead lie to yourself if you need be
Corrections Canada is a big cult,bringing shame and disgrace to the humanitarian responsibilities of all citizens of the world,dirty to the core
Isolation actions are known to be a a technique which should be held to high regard
A big cess pool of dysfunction is corrections Canada!
Their institutions have an ongoing plague,a plague of mismanaging,
I would speculate Isolation can be misused,this is not what Canadians want,we want processs which serve accountability,we are a nation of humanitarians
I went to an interview in a Provincial Remand centre,carefree and tired, the questions they asked me were reflective of what the institution had Modified itself to nothing less then a cult,
Needless to say I never even slightly passed the interview, Corrections was not interested in any of my qualifications,just if I was a qualifier for the cult,I don't do well at interviews,not enough practice,I really was joking about the opportunity,I went for the heck of it
Isolation is an outdated form of incarceration,this must be up for discussion

New rules bring people to higher and respectful behaviour
 

davesmom

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Who says humans don't have animal instincts,way to go Davesmom
Isolation is one topic of conversation but how Isolation is implemented and controlled is another topic of conversation,
Nothing humane about isolation,particularly when you mingle it with mental health issues ,go ahead lie to yourself if you need be
Corrections Canada is a big cult,bringing shame and disgrace to the humanitarian responsibilities of all citizens of the world,dirty to the core
Isolation actions are known to be a a technique which should be held to high regard
A big cess pool of dysfunction is corrections Canada!
Their institutions have an ongoing plague,a plague of mismanaging,
I would speculate Isolation can be misused,this is not what Canadians want,we want processs which serve accountability,we are a nation of humanitarians
I went to an interview in a Provincial Remand centre,carefree and tired, the questions they asked me were reflective of what the institution had Modified itself to nothing less then a cult,
Needless to say I never even slightly passed the interview, Corrections was not interested in any of my qualifications,just if I was a qualifier for the cult,I don't do well at interviews,not enough practice,I really was joking about the opportunity,I went for the heck of it
Isolation is an outdated form of incarceration,this must be up for discussion

New rules bring people to higher and respectful behaviour


I have two close relatives who were Corrections Officers for many years, now retired. They have told some hair raising stories about how the system has changed over the years. Both agreed that they were never so glad to get away from anything than they were to retire from what that system has become.
I know how they felt for I felt the same way when I retired from nursing. I retired earlier than I had expected to due to the changes that made it impossible to be effective on the job.
It has happened in every service and industry; PC and 'lay the blame somewhere else' has taken over. Even in private industry I gather/, My husband was a regional sales manager for a national company for years and had the same complaints about recent changes. I see my son, supervisor in an international business struggling to get results from unqualified staff with an entitlement attitude that he gets dumped on him due to new hiring practices and 'regulations'.
Everything the government touches seems to go haywire!
 

JLM

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I have two close relatives who were Corrections Officers for many years, now retired. They have told some hair raising stories about how the system has changed over the years. Both agreed that they were never so glad to get away from anything than they were to retire from what that system has become.
I know how they felt for I felt the same way when I retired from nursing. I retired earlier than I had expected to due to the changes that made it impossible to be effective on the job.
It has happened in every service and industry; PC and 'lay the blame somewhere else' has taken over. Even in private industry I gather/, My husband was a regional sales manager for a national company for years and had the same complaints about recent changes. I see my son, supervisor in an international business struggling to get results from unqualified staff with an entitlement attitude that he gets dumped on him due to new hiring practices and 'regulations'.
Everything the government touches seems to go haywire!


I'm very familiar with the bull sh*t system as a victim of it. When I started in the system (shortly after the Magna Carta) our bosses were people who had been promoted as they gained experience working in the system. About 1987 all that changed and all of a sudden we were looking for leadership from some young whipper snapper who had a piece paper from a college even though he knew f**k all about the work he was paid to manage. Justin demonstrates that quite well.
 

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I have two close relatives who were Corrections Officers for many years, now retired. They have told some hair raising stories about how the system has changed over the years. Both agreed that they were never so glad to get away from anything than they were to retire from what that system has become.
I know how they felt for I felt the same way when I retired from nursing. I retired earlier than I had expected to due to the changes that made it impossible to be effective on the job.
It has happened in every service and industry; PC and 'lay the blame somewhere else' has taken over. Even in private industry I gather/, My husband was a regional sales manager for a national company for years and had the same complaints about recent changes. I see my son, supervisor in an international business struggling to get results from unqualified staff with an entitlement attitude that he gets dumped on him due to new hiring practices and 'regulations'.
Everything the government touches seems to go haywire!
First of all,I am pleased your relative was able to retire without injury or buying into the cult,I think corrections administration is all about where one lives, and can become symptomatic of political influences which usually equate with dysfunctional design and apathy
Actually I see our millinium adults the opposite,a generation of opportunity and intelligence,
Sounds like your world is filled with preconceived thoughts Davesmom,are you on a farm too,what a downer our narrow thoughts have become!
 

davesmom

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First of all,I am pleased your relative was able to retire without injury or buying into the cult,I think corrections administration is all about where one lives, and can become symptomatic of political influences which usually equate with dysfunctional design and apathy
Actually I see our millinium adults the opposite,a generation of opportunity and intelligence,
Sounds like your world is filled with preconceived thoughts Davesmom,are you on a farm too,what a downer our narrow thoughts have become!



Uh, are you trying to make a statement here? :)