Remember The Falklands?

ironsides

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Even if the British offered those things to the Argies the Argies would just reject them. The only thing they want is the Falkland Islands, but they aren't having them.



You are right to say that the 2955 Falkland Islanders are British, but they aren't British in the sense they were born in Britain and moved to the Falklands. The vast majority of them were born on the islands and have lived there all their lives. About 30% aren't even descended from Britons. Also, they weren't given full British citizenship until 1983. But the islanders consider themselves to be British.

They still make up part of the British far flung Empire.
 

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Remember The Falklands



Is that a battle cry??


Yep, know them well.



Cute sheep.;-)




How can somewhere be a POSSESSION ?

Christ, Blackie, it's the 21st not the 17th.

Even the Brits admit the Zulus (Africa don't ya know) kicked their ass..........despite the movie of the same name which gave a completely erroneous account of the happenings.

And Capt. Cook didn't fare too well either, and they had muskets and bayonets. Against a people who used sharpened pieces of wood.

You used to put some neat, informative stuff on here. Now yer all just rule Britannia, and all.

The sad failings of yer home turf are wearing on ya, old son. Get some rest.


What have the Zulus got and Captain Cook got to do with the Falklands?

Also, I think you'll find that the 1968 movie Zulu starring Michael Cain is based on the 1879 Battle of Rorke's Drift - which the British WON. This is despite the fact that just 150 or so British soldiers were up against 4,000 or so Zulus.

As for "How can somewhere be a possession?" The Falklands are a British possession. I don't care what century it is. There is a thing in UN law called self-determination. Self-determination is the principle in international law that nations have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no external compulsion or external interference. The people of the Falkland Islands choose to remain British. They want to be British. They vote overwhelmingly in referenda to be British. Therefore the islands are British territory.
 

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There is a thing in UN law called self-determination. Self-determination is the principle in international law that nations have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no external compulsion or external interference.

As in Iraq?

Palestine?
 

ironsides

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As in Iraq?

Palestine?

Better happen in Iraq, they are all alone now. As for Palestine, it is not a nation, no language know as Palestinian, never been a land governed by Palestinians, Palestinians are Arabs indistinguishable from any other Arabs in the area.
 

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Iraq is a free country (thanks to the intervention of the British and Americans).



There has NEVER been an independent Palestine. However, it's not Britain that occupies that land, is it? We left there decades ago.

Really? Free after the deaths of 100 000 or more?

As for Palestine, Britain has been an honest broker?
 

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Really? Free after the deaths of 100 000 or more?

As for Palestine, Britain has been an honest broker?

In case you haven't noticed, freedom costs.

And no, the Brit's weren't honest brokers, Israel only wound up with a tiny fraction of what they were promised.
 

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In case you haven't noticed, freedom costs.
You cannot have freedom given to you, you have to earn it. Nobody asked to be "liberated". To think that the coalition of the willingly stupid went into Iraq to liberate anything but the oil is to not have one's head screwed on properly. Iraq is trashed, the population is in chaos and the government is a puppet of the west. The only liberating that can be done now is for the west to get the hell out and take all their greedy corporations and security people with them.
 
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You cannot have freedom given to you, you have to earn it. Nobody asked to be "liberated". To think that the coalition of the willingly stupid went into Iraq to liberate anything but the oil is to not have one's head screwed on properly. Iraq is trashed, the population is in chaos and the government is a puppet of the west. The only liberating that can be done now is for the west to get the hell out and take all their greedy corporations and security people with them.

Sorry it didn't turn out the way you wanted. :)
 

ironsides

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You cannot have freedom given to you, you have to earn it. Nobody asked to be "liberated". To think that the coalition of the willingly stupid went into Iraq to liberate anything but the oil is to not have one's head screwed on properly. Iraq is trashed, the population is in chaos and the government is a puppet of the west. The only liberating that can be done now is for the west to get the hell out and take all their greedy corporations and security people with them.

Lost me after your first sentence: "You cannot have freedom given to you, you have to earn it." Iraq will become Iran's puppet and we all will be back.
 

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"Free at last, free at last, thank Gawd they're free at last!"
- Eulogy at an Iraqi graveyard
I'd rather die free, or die trying to be free, than live in tyranny.

Not everyone thinks being merely alive, is good enough.
 

Blackleaf

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Really? Free after the deaths of 100 000 or more?

Those people died during a war which ousted hated dictator Saddam Hussein. Thanks to Britain and America Iraq is a free country and not a dictatorship.

As for Palestine, Britain has been an honest broker?

There has never been an independent state known as Palestine.

There have, however, been three Israels, the first being founded in Biblical times before Islam was even founded.
 

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'Send a nuclear submarine to stick its mast up': Former Navy head calls for aggressive reaction as Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay move to blockade Falklands


Aggression: Lord West has called for Britain to send a nuclear submarine to the Falkland Islands to signal the intention to defend the territory if Argentina attempts another invasion

A former head of the Royal Navy has said 'aggressive' demands by Argentina over the Falkland Islands should be countered by sending a nuclear submarine to the region.

Lord West has also suggested staging an exercise demonstrating Britain's ability to reinforce the South Atlantic islands would leave Buenos Aires in no doubt the country would defend them in case of conflict.

The peer slammed a new agreement by Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay to ban ships that fly the Falklands flag from their ports as 'outrageous'.

Speaking to London's Evening Standard, he said: 'They are basically becoming more and more aggressive. I find that worrying.

'Far from trying to settle in a grown-up way and having better and better relations with the Falkland islanders, they are upping the ante and becoming confrontational.'

He added that he did not believe Argentina would launch another invasion, but that sending a nuclear submarine to 'stick its mast up' as it patrolled the area would signal Britain's intent.

The former First Sea Lord, who commanded HMS Ardent on which 22 crew were killed during the Falklands War in 1982, added: 'When one is there, we should make a point of making it clear that it is there.'

The Foreign Office has condemned the decision to ban vessels flying the Falklands flag from entering ports in the three countries.

A spokesman said: 'We are very concerned by the latest Argentine attempt to isolate the Falkland Islands people and damage their livelihoods, for which there is no justification.

'No one should doubt our determination to protect the Falkland islanders' right to determine their own political future.'

Roger Spink, president of the Falklands Chamber of Commerce, said they were a small community and felt increasingly under blockade.

He told the BBC: 'If we were Palestine, the European Union would be up in arms.'





Read more: South American trading bloc bans ships with Falkland Islands flag from docking at its ports as row with Argentina escalates | Mail Online

So sayeth the myth maker.

If you can find any part in history of there being an independent Palestine I'll give you a medal.

There have been three Israels, though. And Jerusalem was founded by the Jews over 1,600 years before Islam was founded.
 
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