Religious extremism main cause of terrorism, according to report

[Goober]

It's on the first page Goober.

The core of this problem is that Colpers completely detests the fact that the word 'religious' was used instead of 'Islamic'.

I'm sure you can find religious extremists of every stripe, and yes I agree that most of them would be Islamic.

That doesn't mean we get to pretend they are the only ones though, just because they are the majority.

I found it, thanks though

 

[gopher]

Religious extremism main cause of terrorism, according to report

Religious extremism has become the main driver of terrorism in recent years, according to this year’s Global Terrorism Index.

The report recorded 18,000 deaths in 2013, a rise of 60% on the previous year. The majority (66%) of these were attributable to just four groups: Islamic State (Isis) in Iraq and Syria, Boko Haram in Nigeria, the Taliban in Afghanistan and al-Qaida.

Overall there has been a fivefold increase in deaths from terrorism since the 9/11 suicide attacks.

Upon reviewing the source cited, I also fail to see inclusion of Christians and Muslims killed by Hindu terrorists in India [note: Hindu terrorists have also attacked many Sikhs]. You have already seen links to proof of those incidents posted by me previously. Troubles in Congo, Rwanda, & Uganda have also resulted in tens of thousands of deaths but these are attributable to ethnic conflicts. From all appearances, even more have died from ethnic rather than religious conflicts.

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[grainfedpraiboy]

That doesn't mean we get to pretend they are the only ones though, just because they are the majority.

Nope, they're pretty much the only ones the same way the vast majority of rapists are men. Sometimes you have to accept the truth and not try to whitewash it with language. Calling a spade a spade is the best way for the so called moderate spades to rise up and reform their barbaric religion.

 

[mentalfloss]

If we are calling a spade a spade then we shouldn't pretend it's not a spade.

 

[grainfedpraiboy]

killed by Hindu terrorists in India

As a point of order: Hindu terrorism is almost exclusively political and about Hindu nationalism known as Saffron Terror. Muslim terrorism is predominately motivated by religious interpretations of the Koran. Doesn't make it better but Saffron terror is not about promoting the religion or doing their deity's dirty work.

 

[Colpy]

Yea, the KKK has no religious extremists lol

Though most members of the KKK saw themselves as holding to American values and Christian morality, virtually every Christian denomination officially denounced the Ku Klux Klan.

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gee, I wonder who that sounds like hmmmmmmm.

Let me think.


Oh, right...

Geezus. What is it about being "progressive" that destroys the cognitive process?? It seems simple reading comprehension is always the first thing to go.

There is a HUGE, VAST, difference between "most members of the KKK (seeing) themselves as holding to American values and Christian morality," and terror groups that exist ONLY to spread their religion.

Religion is NOT the reason d'etre of the KKK.

In fact....

The Ku Klux Klan opens its door to Jews, black people and homosexuals | Daily Mail Online

Which is simply bloody hilarious, but give me a call when ISIS starts recruiting Gays and Jews......or even Shia Muslims.

 

[Sal]

Last night Bill Maher said Islam is a religion of peace

we will all be in pieces here and pieces there....

I have no tolerance left for the religion of peace BS

individual Muslims are different...tell me what you think of me as a blonde haired blue eyed woman and I will know exactly where ya stand

we'll go from there

 

[Colpy]

As a point of order: Hindu terrorism is almost exclusively political and about Hindu nationalism known as Saffron Terror. Muslim terrorism is predominately motivated by religious interpretations of the Koran. Doesn't make it better but Saffron terror is not about promoting the religion or doing their deity's dirty work.

And certainly Hindu terrorism exists. As does even Buddhist terrorism, and Christian terrorism.

But they are miniscule, practically non-existent, certainly insignioficant in the larger world.

ISLAM is the threat.

Last night Bill Maher said Islam is a religion of peace

we will all be in pieces here and pieces there....

I have no tolerance left for the religion of peace BS

individual Muslims are different...tell me what you think of me as a blonde haired blue eyed woman and I will know exactly where ya stand

we'll go from there

Individual Muslims are one thing....Tariq Fatah, Salim Mansur, et al are fighting the good fight.

ISLAM is another thing altogether.

 

[mentalfloss]

So if you clearly recognize that extremists of other religions exist, however miniscule, why continue to propagate a lie (that they do not) by changing the terminology to be exclusive to one group?

What is your agenda?

 

[Colpy]

So if you clearly recognize that they exist, however miniscule, why continue to propagate a lie (that they do not) by changing the terminology to be exclusive to one group?

BECAUSE, as I pointed out over and over and over and over and over and over, ISLAM is the threat, ISLAM kills by the tens of thousands, ISLAM is the sole inspiration of not only some terrorist mass murders, not only most terrorist mass murders, but very very close to ALL terrorist mass murders.

If red cars are involved in 99% of fatal accidents, and all the other colours are involved in 1% of fatal accidents, to say ACCIDENTS ARE CAUSED BY CARS WITH COLOURS is misleading. And the solution is not to eliminate all colours, but to deal with the threat inherent in Red.

Your political correctness is not only stupid, it ignores the facts, and is part and parcel of suicidal drive of progressives to ignore threats to western society by pretending all philosophies and all cultures are of equal value.

 

[mentalfloss]

What you just accused me of is complete nonsense.

Yes, COMPLETE nonsense.

There is no evidence whatsoever, that using an appropriate term means that any legitimate threat should be minimized.

If anything, it begs the question of which religious group is the most threatening - and guess where the focus will be then?

 

[MHz]

..... your refusal to see where the majority of attacks arise does not address the situation aside from looking away.
ID the source, ID the issues, and look for solutions.

If you poke a dog with a stick and he attacks on the first poke was he a bad dog to begin with? How many pokes should he take to be considered a good dog before he attacks? Maybe somebody needs to take the stick and give you a slap on the bottom and tell you to quick poking the dog and take care of it like God suggested. (insert appropriate verse but not all 57)

ISLAM is another thing altogether.

How about the Chinese make it over in enough numbers that they could vote in members of their favorite religion, that sit just fine with you as a democratic thing to do or is that a right only granted to the war-mongering x-itians? (oh look, they have an 'x' in their name, they must be a terrorist group and damned if they don't qualify for all the needed points and then some.)

 

[grainfedpraiboy]

There is no evidence whatsoever, that using an appropriate term means that any legitimate threat should be minimized.

You've got to be kidding. From the courses on the langauge of persuasion in advertising to outright political propaganda there is an entire industry devoted to the study, production and dissemination of "truth" and in fact, there is zero evidence that language and it's use does not manipulate perspective.

Colpy's car analogy is pretty much bang on.

 

[mentalfloss]

Give me a break.

An analogy is not evidence and the fact that all we hear about today is about ISIS just proves my point.

 

[MHz]

Muslim terrorism is predominately motivated by religious interpretations of the Koran.

Does it say they can resist having their homes taken and families killed or are those right reserved only for non-Muslims? This place has some seriously twisted thinkers and that is an honest observation from somebody who has looked at all 14 sides of a cube. ( 6 faces 8 corners for the doubters)

 

[DaSleeper]

Leave it to "progressives" to ignore the....

and deflect...

 

[grainfedpraiboy]

Does it say they can resist having their homes taken and families killed or are those right reserved only for non-Muslims?

You're going to have to try and ask that in a way the question makes sense.

 

[Colpy]

Give me a break.

An analogy is not evidence and the fact that all we hear about today is about ISIS just proves my point.

I gave you the evidence in a list of terror attacks in 2013, but you chose to ignore it.

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

2014.11.21 (Zab, Iraq) - ISIS beheads two people at a market after accusing them of apostasy. 2014.11.19 (Azaya Kura, Nigeria) - Forty-five villagers are slaughtered by armed Islamists, who tied the victims and slit their throats. 2014.11.19 (Erbil, Iraq) - A suicide bomber takes out five Kurdish 'apostates'. 2014.11.18 (Nasti Kot, Pakistan) - An 11-year-old boy is among two killed when the Taliban bomb a school bus carrying Shia students. 2014.11.18 (Jerusalem, Israel) - Three Americans are among four rabbis and a guard, who are hacked to death at a synagogue by two Palestinian terrorists with axes shouting praises to Allah. 2014.11.17 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - A Somali-American engineer is shot by al-Shabaab while working on a sanitation project.
Kenya bus attack: Al-Shabaab militants kill 28 non-Muslims who failed to recite Koran - Africa - World - The Independent

That is an incomplete list covering FIVE DAYS.


Weekly Jihad Report
Nov 08 - Nov 14

Jihad Attacks:

76​

Allah Akbars*:

14​

Dead Bodies:

646​

Critically Injured:

606
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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*Suicide Attacks

 

[Sal]

And certainly Hindu terrorism exists. As does even Buddhist terrorism, and Christian terrorism.

But they are miniscule, practically non-existent, certainly insignioficant in the larger world.

ISLAM is the threat.



Individual Muslims are one thing....Tariq Fatah, Salim Mansur, et al are fighting the good fight.

ISLAM is another thing altogether.

agreed and for the first time in my life I have ZERO problem with others labelling me as intollerant or prejudice for holding that belief....

this is one area that my gut tells me we can NOT tolerate, it is beyond my wildest comprehension to attempt to understand and tolerate the insanity that this type of radicalism embraces.

stamp it out....it is a threat to the very existence of freedom and life itself

 

[darkbeaver]

When and where? It has never been established anywhere that money is the "root" of terrorism and not even hinted at so your assertion is simply an outright lie you made up on the spot.

Money may expand and improve the operations of terrorist groups and money may provide for more frequent or sophisticated attacks but under absolutely no circumstances is it the "root" of terrorism. Neither is poverty, lack of education or democracy. The root cause of terrorism is any ideology where some adherents believe strongly enough in promoting their cause they use violence and intimidation in order to further it.

Who funds arms and provides medical care to the mercenary western army of ISIS? The ideology of the wealthy is war for more. State terrorism exceeds amateur terrorism by a factor of 1000 easily. Those with money power make the rules.