I'm not gonna say it's the flannel but....
it's the flannel.
Money, jewellery all nice....but what we all really want is a man who can keep us warm at minus 30.
Refugee/Migrant Crisis
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I'm not gonna say it's the flannel but....
it's the flannel.
Money, jewellery all nice....but what we all really want is a man who can keep us warm at minus 30.
Then you'd know your asinine comment about bingos and booze is just that, asinine.
Something like that. Family moved to Whitehorse when I was 6 months old. Spent the bulk of my life living up North with over 20 years of it flying people and supplies in and out of remote communities, fishing lodges and hunting camps. And yes, I did manage to go fishing once or twice.
Refugees among gang caught on video dancing, singing in Arabic as they rape unconscious teen, says cops
Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, February 05, 2016 01:58 PM EST | Updated: Friday, February 05, 2016 02:10 PM EST
A couple of Iraqi asylum seekers are among a group of seven young men arrested after sickening video footage emerged in Belgium of an unconscious 17-year-old girl being gang-raped while the men danced around her, singing in Arabic.
Police say the girl was plied with vodka and doesn't remember what happened.
Four men and three boys between the ages of 14 and 25 were arrested -- two Belgians and five Iraqi immigrants, including the pair of recent refugees.
The attack happened at a home in Ostend in November but only recently came to light.
A teacher alerted police to a student's Facebook post -- a photo of the boy dressed in fatigues, posing with a gun. Fearing the boy had become radicalized, police spoke to the student and took his phone. That's when they found the video.
According to local reports, most of the accused have confessed. Some reportedly claimed the girl had given consent, but many of them shrugged off the shocking attack.
"She can't complain. Women must obey men," one reportedly told police.
The disturbing footage reportedly shows the group laughing and dancing around the victim, passed out on a bed. The men then pull down her underwear, push her legs apart, grope and take turns raping her.
Belgium's secretary of state for refugees and migrants, Theo Francken, told reporters the case is "disgusting" and said any refugee found guilty will be deported.
"The suspects will be prosecuted. If they are convicted they will have to serve their sentences. When they're released, there is probably no other option than to turn them back (to their home countries) to suffer," he told Belgium TV station VRT.
Belgium has been overwhelmed with Iraqi and Syrian refugees.
On Friday, the government approved a plan to combat Islamic radicalism and the threat of extremist violence by hiring 1,000 new police officers over the next four years.
Refugees among gang caught on video dancing, singing in Arabic as they rape unco
Postmedia Network
First posted: Friday, February 05, 2016 01:58 PM EST | Updated: Friday, February 05, 2016 02:10 PM EST
A couple of Iraqi asylum seekers are among a group of seven young men arrested after sickening video footage emerged in Belgium of an unconscious 17-year-old girl being gang-raped while the men danced around her, singing in Arabic.
Police say the girl was plied with vodka and doesn't remember what happened.
Four men and three boys between the ages of 14 and 25 were arrested -- two Belgians and five Iraqi immigrants, including the pair of recent refugees.
The attack happened at a home in Ostend in November but only recently came to light.
A teacher alerted police to a student's Facebook post -- a photo of the boy dressed in fatigues, posing with a gun. Fearing the boy had become radicalized, police spoke to the student and took his phone. That's when they found the video.
According to local reports, most of the accused have confessed. Some reportedly claimed the girl had given consent, but many of them shrugged off the shocking attack.
"She can't complain. Women must obey men," one reportedly told police.
The disturbing footage reportedly shows the group laughing and dancing around the victim, passed out on a bed. The men then pull down her underwear, push her legs apart, grope and take turns raping her.
Belgium's secretary of state for refugees and migrants, Theo Francken, told reporters the case is "disgusting" and said any refugee found guilty will be deported.
"The suspects will be prosecuted. If they are convicted they will have to serve their sentences. When they're released, there is probably no other option than to turn them back (to their home countries) to suffer," he told Belgium TV station VRT.
Belgium has been overwhelmed with Iraqi and Syrian refugees.
On Friday, the government approved a plan to combat Islamic radicalism and the threat of extremist violence by hiring 1,000 new police officers over the next four years.
Refugees among gang caught on video dancing, singing in Arabic as they rape unco
"any refugee found charged will be deported" in a leaky boat. Should they survive they will face war crime charges for their actions in Syria.
Chinese tourist loses wallet, ends up in German refugee home
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Monday, August 08, 2016 11:39 AM EDT | Updated: Monday, August 08, 2016 11:44 AM EDT
BERLIN -- A Chinese tourist who lost his wallet in Germany signed the wrong paperwork and ended up being placed in a refugee home.
Christoph Schluetermann, an official with the German Red Cross, which runs the home, told news agency dpa on Monday that the man "set machinery in motion that he couldn't get out of."
The unidentified man's troubles started in early July when he lost his wallet after arriving in the southwestern German city of Stuttgart. Officials have figured out that, instead of going to police to file a stolen goods report, he somehow ended up at an authority that presented him with an asylum application.
From there, he was sent to Dortmund in northwestern Germany and on to the refugee home in Duelmen. "He simply did what he was told," Schluetermann said.
Schluetermann said he quickly noticed the man because "he was different from the others -- very, very helpless."
With help from a translation app and then from a translator at a Chinese restaurant, it became clear that the man wanted to travel on to France and Italy, not seek asylum.
It took German officials 12 days to put the story together and send the 31-year-old tourist on his way, Schluetermann said.
Chinese tourist loses wallet, ends up in German refugee home | Weird | News | To
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Monday, August 08, 2016 11:39 AM EDT | Updated: Monday, August 08, 2016 11:44 AM EDT
BERLIN -- A Chinese tourist who lost his wallet in Germany signed the wrong paperwork and ended up being placed in a refugee home.
Christoph Schluetermann, an official with the German Red Cross, which runs the home, told news agency dpa on Monday that the man "set machinery in motion that he couldn't get out of."
The unidentified man's troubles started in early July when he lost his wallet after arriving in the southwestern German city of Stuttgart. Officials have figured out that, instead of going to police to file a stolen goods report, he somehow ended up at an authority that presented him with an asylum application.
From there, he was sent to Dortmund in northwestern Germany and on to the refugee home in Duelmen. "He simply did what he was told," Schluetermann said.
Schluetermann said he quickly noticed the man because "he was different from the others -- very, very helpless."
With help from a translation app and then from a translator at a Chinese restaurant, it became clear that the man wanted to travel on to France and Italy, not seek asylum.
It took German officials 12 days to put the story together and send the 31-year-old tourist on his way, Schluetermann said.
Chinese tourist loses wallet, ends up in German refugee home | Weird | News | To
Danish nationalists to tackle migrant influx with 'refugee spray'
By Brad Hunter, 24 Hours
First posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 07:15 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, September 26, 2016 07:24 PM EDT
Danish nationalists have unleashed an odious response to the country’s growing refugee influx.
The Danes’ Party went to a small town and handed out cans of what it’s calling “refugee spray.”
“I don’t think it is provocative. We are tackling an actual problem in our society, where many Danes feel unsafe. Partially because there are so many migrants in the country and partly because one isn’t allowed to defend oneself,” party chairman Daniel Carlsen told TV Syd.
He added that the spray is necessary because pepper spray is illegal in the land of Carlsberg. Carlsen said the sick spray was a reaction to reports that women were being harassed my asylum seekers.
Most thought the party — founded by a neo-Nazi — gone way out of bounds.
“I think it is disgusting. I’m simply so offended,” local resident Helle Byg told the TV station.
But not all Danes are bothered.
“It’s great. It matches bloody well with my attitudes and opinions. It is, after all, them (refugees) who we are protecting ourselves against at the moment,” Diana Nielsen said.
Refugee spray. (The Danes' Party/Photo)
Danish nationalists to tackle migrant influx with 'refugee spray' | World | News
By Brad Hunter, 24 Hours
First posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 07:15 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, September 26, 2016 07:24 PM EDT
Danish nationalists have unleashed an odious response to the country’s growing refugee influx.
The Danes’ Party went to a small town and handed out cans of what it’s calling “refugee spray.”
“I don’t think it is provocative. We are tackling an actual problem in our society, where many Danes feel unsafe. Partially because there are so many migrants in the country and partly because one isn’t allowed to defend oneself,” party chairman Daniel Carlsen told TV Syd.
He added that the spray is necessary because pepper spray is illegal in the land of Carlsberg. Carlsen said the sick spray was a reaction to reports that women were being harassed my asylum seekers.
Most thought the party — founded by a neo-Nazi — gone way out of bounds.
“I think it is disgusting. I’m simply so offended,” local resident Helle Byg told the TV station.
But not all Danes are bothered.
“It’s great. It matches bloody well with my attitudes and opinions. It is, after all, them (refugees) who we are protecting ourselves against at the moment,” Diana Nielsen said.
Refugee spray. (The Danes' Party/Photo)
Danish nationalists to tackle migrant influx with 'refugee spray' | World | News
Get his lazy azz out there to split some wood and by all means any man that is a man needs to get the fukk up at three in the morning and fill the furnace......while the sweet lady stays toasty in the sack.I'm not gonna say it's the flannel but....
it's the flannel.
Money, jewellery all nice....but what we all really want is a man who can keep us warm at minus 30.
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Because if they do that, they'd have to seriously cut back on immigration. For example, in any given year Canada already accepts 10% of the world's refugees who are ready for resettlement. Some years it's been as high as 1 in 6. Last year was even higher than that.
When combined with immigration numbers, we take in 1% of our total population every year. That is an unsustainable number for any country.
However, in typical American fashion, your proposal is that every one else should help clean up the mess you f*ckers have made, yet again.
And it All started when the US decided that Iraq needed chemical weapons capability. Didn't hear the US ask the rest of the world if that was cool, but Bushy boy sure expected the rest of the world to help clean up the mess by invading Iraq with the US. An invasion that had no real plan, created ISIS, and now you want the rest the world to help clean up your f*cking mess again? Go f*ck your hat.
Here's a proposal. How about the US take in 100% of the refugees from Syria and Iraq. You created them, you can take care of them.
That's the way it is when you're the client state of a superpower. Sucks to be you.
Maybe Canada should take 100% of the North African refugees with the mess they made in Libya. Why should Southern Europe have to bear the brunt of that vacuum caused by Canada.
Here's a novel idea; How about eliminating the cause of the refugee problem?
If the allied forces were sent to eliminate the terrorist groups, (read 'shoot on sight') there wouldn't have to be any refugees.
What is being done now is futile. Troops are sent to fight them but 'don't shoot first' and 'don't cause any civilian deaths', 'don't get into the front lines', etc. won't solve the problem.
Those Mid-easterners whom we are supposed to be training are useless to fight a force like ISIS and most of them are only tomorrow's terrorists anyway.
We send men to do a man's job and restrict his efficiency with 'boy's' rules.
If the allied forces were sent to eliminate the terrorist groups, (read 'shoot on sight') there wouldn't have to be any refugees.
What is being done now is futile. Troops are sent to fight them but 'don't shoot first' and 'don't cause any civilian deaths', 'don't get into the front lines', etc. won't solve the problem.
Those Mid-easterners whom we are supposed to be training are useless to fight a force like ISIS and most of them are only tomorrow's terrorists anyway.
We send men to do a man's job and restrict his efficiency with 'boy's' rules.
I hurried to give a + sign to the previous post.
I like to delete that sign.
The true solution of what you call the refugee problem:
Leave people and lift up your hands off them, and they may be in good condition.
So the West creates the problem, then will say they are sorry, or will be embarrassed or they don't know what to do.
E.g. Syria
Clearly, the reason for the conflict is Tel Aviv.
Then the USA came to fight for the behalf of Tel Aviv,
then Russia has some advantages, and also it came ..
so what's the result: a complete destruction of a peaceful beautiful country.
Therefore, the true reason is Tel Aviv, but the strange thing is that all parties do not mention this, although it is obvious to all of them.
So lift up your hands off them, and they will be OK .. I think.
On condition: to lift up your hands completely .. not only apparently
Don't these (what you call) Great states .. don't they fear God .. aren't they afraid that things may change .. when they will be in the same situation ... it is not hard for God to turn the situation upside down ..
And the US and its allies will have many internal problems .. like what is now in America itself, although very mild till now.
I like to delete that sign.
The true solution of what you call the refugee problem:
Leave people and lift up your hands off them, and they may be in good condition.
So the West creates the problem, then will say they are sorry, or will be embarrassed or they don't know what to do.
E.g. Syria
Clearly, the reason for the conflict is Tel Aviv.
Then the USA came to fight for the behalf of Tel Aviv,
then Russia has some advantages, and also it came ..
so what's the result: a complete destruction of a peaceful beautiful country.
Therefore, the true reason is Tel Aviv, but the strange thing is that all parties do not mention this, although it is obvious to all of them.
So lift up your hands off them, and they will be OK .. I think.
On condition: to lift up your hands completely .. not only apparently
Don't these (what you call) Great states .. don't they fear God .. aren't they afraid that things may change .. when they will be in the same situation ... it is not hard for God to turn the situation upside down ..
And the US and its allies will have many internal problems .. like what is now in America itself, although very mild till now.
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Heck, if we're gonna go in and shoot everybody we see with no regard to whether they're military or civilian, wouldn't it be easier to just nuke the Middle East?
Syrians who tied up bomb suspect in Germany hailed as heroes
Geir Moulson And Frank Jordans, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:52 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 02:55 PM EDT
LEIPZIG, Germany — Three Syrians who overwhelmed a fugitive wanted in an alleged Islamic extremist bomb plot and handed him over to police were hailed as heroes in Germany Tuesday, helping temper anti-migrant sentiment fueled in part by fears of such attacks.
Jaber Albakr, 22, was tied up and held by three fellow Syrians who alerted police in the eastern city of Leipzig in Saxony. He was arrested early Monday — nearly two days after he evaded officers during a raid on an apartment about 80 kilometres (50 miles) away where police found explosives.
Though Saxony has been the heart of the anti-migrant group Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West, known by its German acronym PEGIDA, residents of the state’s largest city were focused Tuesday on the actions of those who apprehended Albakr.
“I immediately thought: hats off to the guys who did that. It was dangerous, after all,” said retiree Maria Haubold, dismissing the idea that refugees were a general threat to German society.
“They come over here to live in peace and not to live through the same things they experienced at home, war and poverty,” she said.
Leipzig Mayor Burkhard Jung thanked the Syrians, whom authorities are not identifying out of concern they could become targets for retribution.
“A person who at first glance seems to have been obviously dangerous was held by fellow Syrians and handed over to the police. That’s a very courageous act,” Jung told The Associated Press.
“Many, many refugees are here because they are fleeing the fighters of the so-called Islamic State. That’s worth remembering, and this story serves to emphasize that,” he said.
Albakr, who had been granted asylum in Germany, was among 890,000 migrants who arrived in the country last year, many of them from Syria.
Worries over the difficulties of integrating large numbers of Muslim newcomers and over the possibility of radicalized migrants carrying out attacks have helped boost anti-foreigner sentiment in recent months.
In July, several people were wounded in two attacks carried out by asylum-seekers and claimed by the Islamic State group; both assailants were killed.
Andre Hahn, a prominent lawmaker with the opposition Left Party, told Bayerischer Rundfunk radio that the men who captured Albakr should be granted asylum as soon as possible in recognition of their courage.
“That would be very important for all honest refugees who need help and who in their absolute majority have nothing to do with the self-styled Islamic State or any terrorist activities,” Hahn said.
The Syrians’ asylum status wasn’t immediately clear.
Albakr met the men who eventually would turn him in after he fled the police raid on an apartment where he was staying in the city of Chemnitz and posted on an internet network for Syrian refugees that he was at Leipzig’s main rail station and needed a place to stay, German newspaper Bild reported.
One of the Syrians, identified only as Mohamed A., was quoted as telling the newspaper that he and a friend picked Albakr up and took him back to another friend’s apartment, only later seeing police notices on Facebook about the bomb plot suspect.
As Albakr slept on Sunday evening, they discussed with other Syrians on Facebook whether their guest was the fugitive, and then tied him up with electric cords.
“He offered us 1,000 euros ($1,115) and $200 if we let him go. He had that in a backpack together with a knife,” the man was quoted as saying. “I am so grateful to Germany for taking us in. We could not allow him to do something to Germans.”
On Tuesday nobody answered the door of the apartment in the modest social housing complex where Albakr was apprehended. Neighbors noted that Mohamed A.’s shoes were missing and suggested that he might have been taken to a safe house by police before dawn, in part to evade the notice of TV crews.
Bild columnist Franz Josef Wagner opened his second-page column Tuesday with the words “Dear Heroes.”
“I don’t know how good your German is and whether you know our Constitution (women and men are equal, freedom of religion etc.),” he wrote. “But beyond language and tradition, you know what good and bad are. That makes you friends.”
Even the nationalist, anti-migration Alternative for Germany party appeared relatively muted in its response to the Chemnitz case.
Investigators think Albakr was considering Berlin’s airports as potential targets. Hans-Georg Maassen, the head of the domestic intelligence agency, told ZDF television it received information in early September that the Islamic State group was planning “attacks on infrastructure, stations and airports, in western Europe, particularly Germany.”
Following the “abstract” tip, Maassen said German authorities “generated a lot of information ourselves, and exchanged a lot of information with partners, until we came to this name and this address.”
He and other officials were tightlipped with details of Albakr’s suspected contacts with IS, saying that is part of their ongoing investigation.
“From intelligence information, there are good reasons to say that he had relations with IS,” Maassen said.
Syrians who tied up bomb suspect in Germany hailed as heroes | World | News | To
Geir Moulson And Frank Jordans, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:52 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 02:55 PM EDT
LEIPZIG, Germany — Three Syrians who overwhelmed a fugitive wanted in an alleged Islamic extremist bomb plot and handed him over to police were hailed as heroes in Germany Tuesday, helping temper anti-migrant sentiment fueled in part by fears of such attacks.
Jaber Albakr, 22, was tied up and held by three fellow Syrians who alerted police in the eastern city of Leipzig in Saxony. He was arrested early Monday — nearly two days after he evaded officers during a raid on an apartment about 80 kilometres (50 miles) away where police found explosives.
Though Saxony has been the heart of the anti-migrant group Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West, known by its German acronym PEGIDA, residents of the state’s largest city were focused Tuesday on the actions of those who apprehended Albakr.
“I immediately thought: hats off to the guys who did that. It was dangerous, after all,” said retiree Maria Haubold, dismissing the idea that refugees were a general threat to German society.
“They come over here to live in peace and not to live through the same things they experienced at home, war and poverty,” she said.
Leipzig Mayor Burkhard Jung thanked the Syrians, whom authorities are not identifying out of concern they could become targets for retribution.
“A person who at first glance seems to have been obviously dangerous was held by fellow Syrians and handed over to the police. That’s a very courageous act,” Jung told The Associated Press.
“Many, many refugees are here because they are fleeing the fighters of the so-called Islamic State. That’s worth remembering, and this story serves to emphasize that,” he said.
Albakr, who had been granted asylum in Germany, was among 890,000 migrants who arrived in the country last year, many of them from Syria.
Worries over the difficulties of integrating large numbers of Muslim newcomers and over the possibility of radicalized migrants carrying out attacks have helped boost anti-foreigner sentiment in recent months.
In July, several people were wounded in two attacks carried out by asylum-seekers and claimed by the Islamic State group; both assailants were killed.
Andre Hahn, a prominent lawmaker with the opposition Left Party, told Bayerischer Rundfunk radio that the men who captured Albakr should be granted asylum as soon as possible in recognition of their courage.
“That would be very important for all honest refugees who need help and who in their absolute majority have nothing to do with the self-styled Islamic State or any terrorist activities,” Hahn said.
The Syrians’ asylum status wasn’t immediately clear.
Albakr met the men who eventually would turn him in after he fled the police raid on an apartment where he was staying in the city of Chemnitz and posted on an internet network for Syrian refugees that he was at Leipzig’s main rail station and needed a place to stay, German newspaper Bild reported.
One of the Syrians, identified only as Mohamed A., was quoted as telling the newspaper that he and a friend picked Albakr up and took him back to another friend’s apartment, only later seeing police notices on Facebook about the bomb plot suspect.
As Albakr slept on Sunday evening, they discussed with other Syrians on Facebook whether their guest was the fugitive, and then tied him up with electric cords.
“He offered us 1,000 euros ($1,115) and $200 if we let him go. He had that in a backpack together with a knife,” the man was quoted as saying. “I am so grateful to Germany for taking us in. We could not allow him to do something to Germans.”
On Tuesday nobody answered the door of the apartment in the modest social housing complex where Albakr was apprehended. Neighbors noted that Mohamed A.’s shoes were missing and suggested that he might have been taken to a safe house by police before dawn, in part to evade the notice of TV crews.
Bild columnist Franz Josef Wagner opened his second-page column Tuesday with the words “Dear Heroes.”
“I don’t know how good your German is and whether you know our Constitution (women and men are equal, freedom of religion etc.),” he wrote. “But beyond language and tradition, you know what good and bad are. That makes you friends.”
Even the nationalist, anti-migration Alternative for Germany party appeared relatively muted in its response to the Chemnitz case.
Investigators think Albakr was considering Berlin’s airports as potential targets. Hans-Georg Maassen, the head of the domestic intelligence agency, told ZDF television it received information in early September that the Islamic State group was planning “attacks on infrastructure, stations and airports, in western Europe, particularly Germany.”
Following the “abstract” tip, Maassen said German authorities “generated a lot of information ourselves, and exchanged a lot of information with partners, until we came to this name and this address.”
He and other officials were tightlipped with details of Albakr’s suspected contacts with IS, saying that is part of their ongoing investigation.
“From intelligence information, there are good reasons to say that he had relations with IS,” Maassen said.
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Unfortunately, your so-called "world" is full of murderers and child molesters. My world may not be perfect but I will take it over yours.
I refuse to be treated as property because I am a woman; I refuse to cover-up in a bag because your kind of men can't control themselves and pretend that its us who are uncontrollable; I refuse to accept sharia law and the butchering of young woman's genitals; and the list (and misogyny) goes on. You, Selfsame, are part of the problem and certainly not the solution. Your culture is backwards as is your interpretation of your religion. Fortunately, most Muslims are peaceful and go about their daily lives like everyone else. It's the ones who have corrupted your religion that are at issue - they're murdering thugs and will, hopefully, all go to hell.
You want to practice your religion - fine but leave me and others who chose not to out of it. If I chose to be religious, it will be on my terms not yours.
JMHO