Reds pledge
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In all fairness, Pierre Trudeau inherited a surplus and personally translated that into a deficit of about $34B by increasing the size and scope of government. Munlroney inherited this deficit. Mulroney's unwillingness to reduce the size and scope of government in economic downturns only exacerbated the problem. The problem, government does not create wealth, it only extracts wealth and stifles the will to create it. The Chretien government used rising tides, inflation, and "bracket creep" to increase taxes that conquered the deficit. The $50B budget deficit was offset by a $50B surplus in the UI fund, (euphimisticaly re-named EI). This was simply an accounting procedure. It is all pee in and from the same pot. We still pay $200 a month into the EI fund as we have for the last 20 years whether we are entitled to it or not.
As for Harper adding to the federal debt, three other parties were also part of this, had it been up to them, they would have pumped even more deficit spending into the toilet given half the chance. There is plenty of blame to go around, Harper isn't the villain here, the populace is.
In fairness, neither Trudeau nor Chretien held a a gun to Mulroney's head to force him to deal up the forty or fifty billion dollar deficit he gave us every damn one of the nine years he was in office.
Delusional right wing Republicans and their allies up north like to believe that their heroes in Wall Street such as Rockefeller's and the Aldrich's had nothing to do with financing the commies. But history proves they did. Sutton, a conservative, knew that quite well.
The last Republican hero I ever had was Teddy Roosevelt.
The best Presidents since him have been Democrats........and the worst.
Best: FDR, Truman, and I confess a deep admiration for LBJ
Worst: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton
Carter inherited an economic mess from Ford but couldn't fix it. Clinton inherited one from Bush & Reagan. But he succeeded and was the best president in the modern era.
As we live in Canada our chances of catching Limbaugh on a tv show are extremely rare but i did see him on the Leno show last week.I dont know what people see in this pompous obnoxious little man whos only mental skill in life is making an issue out of everything,i'll bet he doesnt have many friends as his constant diatribe against just about everything would get real old real fast if i had to hear him go on and on about whatever,but the bottom line is he's laughing all the way to the bank by being the mouth piece of the republicans making it sound like the current administration is in some way evil and not fit to run the country, he can say just about anything he wants as there is no consequence to his comments he isnt ever going to run for political office as that would involve a lot of hard work and a major pay cut,nope he'll stay right where he is telling the neocons exactly what they want to hear and padding his bank account at their expense.
I keep trying to imagine a USA run by Rush and wonder how long it would take him to start getting ideas about ruling the world his way..
We became the greatest nation in the world because you and your European buddies, why did you get us so involved in WW-I and II, we tried staying out officially. You created this so called monster. Stop blaming others for your mistakes, take a little responsibility and live with it.
Mulroney was no hero of mine either, he belongs in the same class as the other two as far as I'm concerned.
Hmmm, seems to me it was the bombing of Pearl Harbour, along with the menace of German U-boats on the East coast that got the US involved in WWII.
Your right about Pearl Harbor, it would have happened no matter what. Hitler did not want war with us, the unrestricted U-boat attacks happened after we committed to help Great Briton and allies thru Lend Lease. Which was not popular with the people.
Who could blame him, however, without the combined effort of all the allies, including Russia, the European, and possibly our own political and physical landscape would look entirely different today. Just don't go into an English pub and say the war wouldn't have been one without the help of the US, Canada, or anyone else. I know a fellow who did just that, it wasn't pretty, but he did deserve what he got, he was a bit of a prat :lol:.
Of course the US didn't want to get involved in a war where they were profiting from both sides but sometimes, if not always, that can bite you on the ass, which it did. The US government is its own worst enemy and of their own people.
That is not true bob, if you pay into EI; you are entitled to draw the benefits. Conversely, if you are not eligible, you don’t have to pay into it.
Both my wife and I are self employed; we don’t pay a penny into the EI (we do have to contribute to CPP, however). I am also on my wife’s payroll, that constitutes a small part of my income. However, even there, nothing is deducted from my salary, since I won’t be eligible to draw upon EI benefits if I am laid off.
So if you are not entitled to draw EI benefits, you are paying into it unnecessarily, you should contact the appropriate people and stop paying it.
Indeed Carter inherited a royal mess form Ford; I was living in USA when Ford was the president. Remember the “WIN” buttons (Whip Inflation Now) put out by Ford?
We do get his radio show here in Canada jambo; we get it on American radio stations (he doesn't have a tv show, he tried that a few years ago but it was a big flop). Unless you live in the North, you probably get his show on some American radio station.
I used to listen to him occasionally long time ago, when Clinton was the president, I haven’t listened to him for a long time now. But I assume we still can get his radio show here in Canada.
Bob, at least US was astute enough in those days to know which was the more deadly, more dangerous enemy, Communism or Nazism. They made the right decision by aligning with USSR and fighting Hitler.
Unfortunately, they made the wrong decision in Afghanistan. They decided that USSR was the bigger threat, the real enemy and backed the mujaheedin, against the Soviet backed regime in Afghanistan.
Mujaheedin later morphed into Taliban, joined forces with Al Qaeda and it is clear today that it is the Fundamentalist Islam which is the greater threat. Too bad USA didn’t realize it in the 80s.
I think so, too. A little word called "honor" seems to have gotten lost under words like "bottom line", "democracy", etc. It's the people that make a society great and if the people lose sight of what is really important in life, so does society, and that ain't great.
It looks like the topic has gotten lost, too.