Ralliers at Chris Alexander speech call for Alberta premier to be locked up

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Durry

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The media and most other politicians seem to have their panties in a knot because of the chanting "lock her up".

I say get over it lefties, it was like a figure of speech. When someone tells you to go to H.., they don't really mean you should go to H... This chatting was the same.

Lefties,,,,don't start telling people what they should and should not say,,,this is still a free country, so go to H...
 

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You ignorant chicken ****ers{****servitives} just don't get it,do you,? The morons you think will lead you to the promised land will **** you over just as quick,no,quicker,because you've shown how stupid you are, as everybody in their way.
 

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You ignorant chicken ****ers{****servitives} just don't get it,do you,? The morons you think will lead you to the promised land will **** you over just as quick,no,quicker,because you've shown how stupid you are, as everybody in their way.

Not all of us are chicken s**t conservatives. Few of us believe anyone will lead us to the promised land. Most of us know that no matter who is in office we will be screwed over one way or another. I doubt we are any more or less stupid than those who support another political party.
 

Cannuck

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Nope. Dippers are pretty stupid. Government continues to fail miserably in everything it does yet Dippers continually look to the government to solve problems
 

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I think the Politians have clearly shown that they do not support the Freedom of Expressions of voters. They only support Freedom of Expression when it is politically correct.

Now we see why Trump got elected.
 

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If you don't like the direction Alberta was going, the smart thing to do would be to vote Wild Rose. If you just don't like the PC's then I guess whatever floats your boat.

Smart to vote for a party whose policies would have made the current situation in Alberta far worse and whose environmental policies are simply a continuation of the failed policies of the PCs? Somehow that is not my definition of smart. Just in case you are not familiar with Alberta politics, the Wildrose policies have pretty much been a case of "Vote for us - we're even more conservative than the PCs."
 

Cannuck

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Smart to vote for a party whose policies would have made the current situation in Alberta far worse and whose environmental policies are simply a continuation of the failed policies of the PCs? Somehow that is not my definition of smart. Just in case you are not familiar with Alberta politics, the Wildrose policies have pretty much been a case of "Vote for us - we're even more conservative than the PCs."
You can poo-poo the PC's environmental policies all you want. Those of us that deal with environmental issues daily find people like you amusing.

You clearly lack a basic understanding of the political spectrum if you consider the Alberta PC's as conservative. Either that or you're just so far left that you view the middle as radically right
 

Bar Sinister

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You can poo-poo the PC's environmental policies all you want. Those of us that deal with environmental issues daily find people like you amusing.

You clearly lack a basic understanding of the political spectrum if you consider the Alberta PC's as conservative. Either that or you're just so far left that you view the middle as radically right

I'll put up my knowledge of politics against yours any day. If you really think that a party that sold itself to the oil industry and did its best to dismantle public health and other social services care is left wing then you are somewhat deluded. Also your comment about the PC's almost nonexistent environmental policies seems a bit out of place as it was not mentioned in my original post. Just for the record what were the PCs environmental policies? I Googled then and they are damned hard to find.
 

Cannuck

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Dismantle public health? How is spending the most per capita on health care dismantling the public system? When Ralph left office we had 188 doctors/100k (the national average was 190). We had 797 nurses/100k (the national average was 776). Those numbers are phenomenal when you consider the massive growth at that time.

Lots of doctors, lots of nurses and highest per capita healthcare spending in the country equals dismantling health care? Is that really the nonsense you're trying to peddle?

A Conservative party with environmental policies?

Good luck.

Lefties are worse for the environment. All one has to do is look at Saskatistan under the Dippers for 25 years.
 

Bar Sinister

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Dismantle public health? How is spending the most per capita on health care dismantling the public system? When Ralph left office we had 188 doctors/100k (the national average was 190). We had 797 nurses/100k (the national average was 776). Those numbers are phenomenal when you consider the massive growth at that time.

Lots of doctors, lots of nurses and highest per capita healthcare spending in the country equals dismantling health care? Is that really the nonsense you're trying to peddle?

Lefties are worse for the environment. All one has to do is look at Saskatistan under the Dippers for 25 years.

Klein? You are talking about a government that ordered a Calgary hospital blown up; laid off thousands of nurses, civil servants, and teachers; attempted to privatize numerous aspects of health care and education; and cut back enrollment in medicine at major universities in Alberta. His actions in the health care area left the province scrambling for doctors and nurses and the educational system was held together only because teachers worked longer hours and refused to cooperate in his attempts to privatize education. The fact that numbers in health care are now similar to those in other areas of Canada do not say much considering the wealth generated in the province during the last couple of decades.

Here is a excerpt from a Wikipedia article describing Klein's actions. You may read the entire article here if you wish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Klein

In October 1998 Klein had the old Calgary General Hospital demolished with explosives.[27]
In July 2005 Klein delivered a speech on the his "third way" in health care which would lie between the American system and the Canadian system. He proposed a series of provincial health care reforms that would potentially violate the Canada Health Act. Klein's reforms for Alberta would have permitted for-profit care and made it possible to jump queues, to "allow patients to pay cash for some surgery and let doctors practice in both the public and private health systems." Public outcry forced the government to listen to Albertans and the third way was not legislated.


Klein responded by exclaiming, "I don't need this crap" and throwing the Liberal health care policy book at a seventeen-year-old page who had delivered the book during question period in the Alberta legislature. The same booklet later sold on eBay for a reported $1,400, signed by Alberta's Liberal Leader Kevin Taft, with the caption, "Policy on the fly." Earlier in the question period he also had to apologize for calling Liberal leader Kevin Taft a liar on the floor of the legislature, which is considered unparliamentary language. His apology consisted of saying, "Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I won't use the word 'fib.' I'll say that he doesn't tell the whole truth all the time - most of the time." Reacting to comments made in March 2006 by Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty opposing any two-tiered health care system in Ontario that Klein has proposed in Alberta which would allow quicker access to surgery for those who pay, Klein stated "I'm no doctor, but I think that Mr. McGuinty's got a case of premature speculation"

BTW you will really have to explain how "lefties" like the Green Party are worse for the environment.
 

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This is too funny. I was actually at the rally and everyone was having a ball. So when that particular chant went up, everyone started laughing. The mainstream media is SOOOOO gullible it's amazing how stupid they are. As for Mr. Alexander, he tried to change the chant to "vote her out" and in no way encouraged or participated in it. He was smiling because everyone else thought it was a hoot!! Apparently the NDP is easily "offended" but they can "offend" everyone who participated in that Rally. The hypocrisy is unbelievable but expected.


As for the hand-out about immigrants, I don't think the organizers or anyone even knew what they were all about. My brother and I were given one as we were leaving and neither one of us read it; I didn't until I got home and simply tore it up. While I agree that our immigrant policies leave a little to be desired, I am NOT against immigration as was stated in this flyer. I was actually quite appalled by what it contained.


But typical of the NDP and their ilk; of COURSE everyone who attended was an EXTREMIST right-winged idiot which is par for the course. People have lost their jobs and, apparently, when you object to government rules and regulations that might actually prevent jobs from returning, you suddenly become a right-wing extremist.


Wonder what they call the eco-extremists who think nothing of destroying things and rioting? Oh, right - they're being "reasonable" and "righteous" but not extremist. I keep forgetting!!


BTW, that was the most fun I've had in a long time; last time I was at a rally was when Klein was going to close down the Grey Nuns hospital so it was much more serious but we succeeded in keeping it open. After all, it "only" served in excess of 100,000 people at the time!!


JMO
 

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Smart to vote for a party whose policies would have made the current situation in Alberta far worse and whose environmental policies are simply a continuation of the failed policies of the PCs? Somehow that is not my definition of smart. Just in case you are not familiar with Alberta politics, the Wildrose policies have pretty much been a case of "Vote for us - we're even more conservative than the PCs."

Yes I'm sure you are quite happy with the party that has destroyed Alberta's economy and hired thousands of government employees for no good reason other than increasing party membership.Working people however need a party that represents their interests.And that is simply something no NDP government has ever done.

BTW you will really have to explain how "lefties" like the Green Party are worse for the environment.



Too easy. Even you could probably figure it out without too much help.
When you destroy the economy people go out and dump garbage in the woods or for you cityots in alleys because they can't afford oppressive dump fees.
When you destroy the economy there is no money to build or maintain sewage treatment plants.
When you destroy the economy people can not maintain their vehicles so the are safe and run properly.
 

Cannuck

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Klein? You are talking about a government that ordered a Calgary hospital blown up; laid off thousands of nurses, civil servants, and teachers;

Yes, that Klein. Doctors and nurses per capita were at or surpassing the national average. Student/teacher ratios were average. After the Klein cutbacks, program spending was still the highest in the country.

While I can appreciate your leftist rant, the reality is that health education and other programs are doing quite well in Alberta. I know you think having more nurses per capita is somehow "scrambling for nurses" but clearly you're just an ideologue.

Did Ralph cut? Most definitely. Did there need to be cuts? Most definitely. Did the system implode? According to special interests it did. Fortunately, most Albertans don't place a lot of value on special interest.

On a side note, what's wrong with privatizing some aspects of government. As somebody who is not an ideologue like you, I judge each policy on its own merit.
 

Durry

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Notley did not get the approval of Albertans (social license) to introduce her Carbon tax. So in this respect for the crowd to chant lock her up seems appropriate.

But I think the real reason the media and others are making such a fuss over this chant is because Notley is a women and a lefty at that.
If a white conservative man would have introduced a similar policy, and the crowd would chant, lock him up, no one would have said boo about it.
 

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The media and most other politicians seem to have their panties in a knot because of the chanting "lock her up".

Only when this sentiment is displayed by individuals which lean to the right of the spectrum. I suspect these people who are so torqued over this likely didn't say too much when David Suzuki declared that all politicians (including the former PM of our country) who don't buy into the climate change dogma should be thrown in jail.

Notley did not get the approval of Albertans (social license) to introduce her Carbon tax. So in this respect for the crowd to chant lock her up seems appropriate.

But I think the real reason the media and others are making such a fuss over this chant is because Notley is a women and a lefty at that.
If a white conservative man would have introduced a similar policy, and the crowd would chant, lock him up, no one would have said boo about it.

I agree that this is much ado about nothing by the left and the media, however it was a bit of a strange thing to chant since we are not a banana republic and we don't jail our politicians for instituting bad policy. Perhaps "vote her out" may have been more appropriate and is certainly a message that would resonate more since it actually makes sense.
 

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