Quit Picking On Romney
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I guess I should have added a smilie to my question asking why did fox cut off mittens..........But we already know why.........:lol:
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Romney has got flip flop fever. He can never stand firm on any issue.
Mitt Romney On Women At Bain: They Don't Want To Work There
Mitt Romney On Women At Bain: They Don't Want To Work There
As a newly elected, incoming governor in late 2002, Mitt Romney said he was forced to instruct his staff to "find some women that are qualified" for positions in his administration because all the candidates, "seemed to be men."
The result was the now infamous "binders full of women," comment Romney made during Tuesday night's presidential debate ... In 1995, a year after Romney made his comment, the Harvard Business School graduating class was almost 30 percent women. And given the enormous potential of private equity to generate wealth, it's difficult to imagine that women and minorities simply wouldn't be "attracted" to the profession.''
Not only is Romney a flip flop, he's a damn liar, too.
More 'This is Awkward'...
TIDAL WAVE: THE TENNESSEAN ENDORSES ROMNEY:
For those of you unfamiliar with the Nashville-based paper, it is the former employer of Al Gore, and a steadfast liberal paper. Its editorial board today formally endorsed Mitt Romney for President, concluding:
The next president must be the one with the best chance to get the crushing, $16 trillion national debt under control, coupled with the more immediate need of enabling a vibrant job market.
It is because the economy is paramount that The Tennessean endorses Gov. Mitt Romney for president.
The editors conclude with advice to Romney, “Be the man who governed Massachusetts, and you’ll reunite America.”
Kudos to the Tennesseean for putting country above party.
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TIDAL WAVE: THE TENNESSEAN ENDORSES ROMNEY:
For those of you unfamiliar with the Nashville-based paper, it is the former employer of Al Gore, and a steadfast liberal paper. Its editorial board today formally endorsed Mitt Romney for President, concluding:
The next president must be the one with the best chance to get the crushing, $16 trillion national debt under control, coupled with the more immediate need of enabling a vibrant job market.
It is because the economy is paramount that The Tennessean endorses Gov. Mitt Romney for president.
The editors conclude with advice to Romney, “Be the man who governed Massachusetts, and you’ll reunite America.”
Kudos to the Tennesseean for putting country above party.
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Ignorant skank is owned by Ann. :lol:
Whoopi Attempts Gotcha On Ann Romney, Wrongly Says Mormonism Forbids Military Service
Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of "The View on ABC, failed at an attempt to get Ann Romney with a "gotcha" question on Mormonism and military service. Romney, who appeared as a guest on the mid-day talk show, had to correct Goldberg on her faith's view on military service. Goldberg wrongly said that service in the armed forces was forbidden by the religion and was promptly corrected by Mrs. Romney. Transcript below.
Whoopi Attempts Gotcha On Ann Romney, Wrongly Says Mormonism Forbids Military Service
Whoopi Goldberg, co-host of "The View on ABC, failed at an attempt to get Ann Romney with a "gotcha" question on Mormonism and military service. Romney, who appeared as a guest on the mid-day talk show, had to correct Goldberg on her faith's view on military service. Goldberg wrongly said that service in the armed forces was forbidden by the religion and was promptly corrected by Mrs. Romney. Transcript below.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: As first lady, if you get the job, it’s going to entail a lot of things, and one of those things is going to be talking to the mothers whose children are coming home in bags, you know, from wars. Now, I know -- I believe that your religion doesn’t allow you to go fight.
ANN ROMNEY: No, that's not correct. We have many, many members of our faith that are serving in armed services.
GOLDBERG: Okay, um, I say that because when I read about your husband, what I had read, and maybe you can correct this is that the reason that he didn’t serve in Vietnam was because it was against the religion. That’s what I read.
ROMNEY: No, that's not correct. He was serving his mission and you know my five sons have also served missions. None served in the military.
Whoopi Attempts Gotcha On Ann Romney, Wrongly Says Mormonism Forbids Military Service | RealClearPolitics
ANN ROMNEY: No, that's not correct. We have many, many members of our faith that are serving in armed services.
GOLDBERG: Okay, um, I say that because when I read about your husband, what I had read, and maybe you can correct this is that the reason that he didn’t serve in Vietnam was because it was against the religion. That’s what I read.
ROMNEY: No, that's not correct. He was serving his mission and you know my five sons have also served missions. None served in the military.
Whoopi Attempts Gotcha On Ann Romney, Wrongly Says Mormonism Forbids Military Service | RealClearPolitics
Someone else on a different web forum also mistakenly believed that myth. I have known some Mormons who were in the military. But most dodged the draft like Romney did. I remember years ago when some right wingers said they would never vote for Clinton since, in their minds, he was a draft dodger. I wonder how they feel about voting for chicken hawk Romney. 
Mormon women:
So many people on this forum have criticized Islam as being sexist even though 70% of all converts to that religion are women. Yet, no religion is more sexist than Mormonism. So where is all the criticism from the right wingers???
So many people on this forum have criticized Islam as being sexist even though 70% of all converts to that religion are women. Yet, no religion is more sexist than Mormonism. So where is all the criticism from the right wingers???
Another unhinged leftoid raging...this time calling out Romneys' eldest son to a fight. That's right.
See the' tough' guy in the video linked below.
Maybe just girls watch his little show and he's trying to impress them. I dunno man.
What a dick. :lol:
More Abrasive Than Usual, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Challenges Tagg Romney to Fight Him
Read more: More Abrasive Than Usual, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Challenges Tagg Romney to Fight Him | NewsBusters.org
A little background/transcript of what Taggert actually said.
A clip played of the radio exchange: BILL LUMAYE: What is it like for you to hear the President of the United States call your dad a liar?
TAGG ROMNEY: You know-
LUMAYE: How do you react to that?
ROMNEY: Well, jump out of your seat and you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at him. But you know, you can't do that because – well, first, 'cause there's a lot of Secret Service between you and him, but also, 'cause this is the nature of the process, you know, they're going to try to do everything they can do to try to make my dad into someone he's not. We signed up for it, we've gotta kind of sit there and take our punches and then send them right back the other way.
See the' tough' guy in the video linked below.
Maybe just girls watch his little show and he's trying to impress them. I dunno man.
What a dick. :lol:
More Abrasive Than Usual, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Challenges Tagg Romney to Fight Him
Read more: More Abrasive Than Usual, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Challenges Tagg Romney to Fight Him | NewsBusters.org
A little background/transcript of what Taggert actually said.
A clip played of the radio exchange: BILL LUMAYE: What is it like for you to hear the President of the United States call your dad a liar?
TAGG ROMNEY: You know-
LUMAYE: How do you react to that?
ROMNEY: Well, jump out of your seat and you want to rush down to the debate stage and take a swing at him. But you know, you can't do that because – well, first, 'cause there's a lot of Secret Service between you and him, but also, 'cause this is the nature of the process, you know, they're going to try to do everything they can do to try to make my dad into someone he's not. We signed up for it, we've gotta kind of sit there and take our punches and then send them right back the other way.
The left doesn't have an equal to Rush, they'd have to start telling the truth first.And we thought that the left didn't have a "Rush Limbaugh" equivalent
I'll step in if Tag Romney is too busy.... Me and Larry can meet for a few whiskeys, talk a little politics and go settle any differences out in the alley
Someone else on a different web forum also mistakenly believed that myth. I have known some Mormons who were in the military. But most dodged the draft like Romney did. I remember years ago when some right wingers said they would never vote for Clinton since, in their minds, he was a draft dodger. I wonder how they feel about voting for chicken hawk Romney.
Presumable they could not vote for george the lessor either then.
I don't have a problem with someone serving humanity instead of the industrial war complex machine. This is not a negative in my view but a huge positive. Promoting peace and helping fellow humans should always be valued far above military service and war.
Someone else on a different web forum also mistakenly believed that myth. I have known some Mormons who were in the military. But most dodged the draft like Romney did. I remember years ago when some right wingers said they would never vote for Clinton since, in their minds, he was a draft dodger. I wonder how they feel about voting for chicken hawk Romney.
- Gopher ... Your usual mountain of misinformation and malice towards Romney continues. Mormons actually have a history of serving their communities and their country disproportionately compared with Americans overall. At the time of Viet Nam, Romney was a twenty year old sleeping on stone floors and living very humbly in France as he fulfuilled his mission to spread the teachings of Mormonism to others and he spent almost two years there achieving, as always with him, unexpectedly promising results against considerable odds. As to so called draft dodging, everyone knows that almost every ambitious young college kid from money or, as in Clinton's case, with good marks was able to avoid combat in Viet Nam. This is one of the reasons the draft was abolished by Nixon around 1970. Romney was no more nor less of a chicken hawk than Clinton, Gore, Bush, etc. and if the presidency was restricted just to those who served in combat then FDR and Reagan and Carter and Clinton and Bush and Obama would all have been disqualified and war heros Bob Dole and John McCain would have been presidents.. Given the unprecedented economic and fiscal and entitlement and other problems facing the US at this juncture and the superb qualifications of Romney to tackle and resolve these problems, only a moron would disqualify him because he didn't serve in Viet Nam.
- Here, learn something:
The Mormon record of service to their neighbors — & their country
Posted by B. Daniel Blatt at 3:30 am - October 21, 2012.
Filed under: Military,Religion (General)
With Whoopi Goldberg recently confusing Mormons with Quakers, suggesting that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints couldn’t fight for our country, we can expect other media figures, particularly those opposed to the election of Mitt Romney to continue to misrepresent the largest faith indigenous to the United States of America.
Our blog reader bfwebster addressed that misunderstanding in a recent blog post where he reported that not only did Mormons serve in Vietnam, but that a disproportionate (to their percentage in the United States population) number made the ultimate sacrifice for their country:
During the period of the Vietnam War — say, 1965-1974 — the total US population was around 200 million. During that same period of time, LDS Church membership grew from roughly 2.4 million to 3.4 million. That membership is men, women, and children of all ages, both inside and outside of the United States. I have not yet been able to find the actual United States LDS membership for that period, but I will assume that it was on the order of 75% of the total LDS membership, or about 2 to 2.5 million — just a bit over 1% of the US population.
Furthermore, probably only about 50% (if that much) of that membership within the United States represented actively practicing and attending members. So the ratio of active LDS members living in the US to the US population at large during that period was probably on the order of 0.5%, perhaps less.
So, how many self-identified Mormons were killed in Vietnam? 589 out of 58,193, or just over 1% of all US military deaths. In other words, Mormons were at least proportionately represented by population among US military deaths in Vietnam and were likely over-represented.
Seems Mitt Romney comes from a tradition which teaches not only service to one’s neighbors, but also to one’s country.Furthermore, probably only about 50% (if that much) of that membership within the United States represented actively practicing and attending members. So the ratio of active LDS members living in the US to the US population at large during that period was probably on the order of 0.5%, perhaps less.
So, how many self-identified Mormons were killed in Vietnam? 589 out of 58,193, or just over 1% of all US military deaths. In other words, Mormons were at least proportionately represented by population among US military deaths in Vietnam and were likely over-represented.
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- I think Whoopi confused Mormon with Mennonite. But I served in the military and we had Mormons in my unit. It wasn’t a big deal. They wore two t-shirts. I married a Morman. Granted, she was a “jack” Mormon in that she didn’t go to church but was raised Mormon and about half of her family are active members of the church. She was from Utah and I still visit there.
I attended the Christmas parade in Cedar City one year. The dedication for the parade was given by the Episcopal minister. All the faiths you find anywhere else are to be found in Utah but I will tell you what, the place is very much more community and family oriented than a lot of other places are.
One thing that made a lasting impression on me. My late wife’s sister was in a hard spot. She was out of work and had three kids she was raising in a little desert town where jobs are scarce. The Relief Society lady came around and offered assistance. My sister-in-law mentioned that she wasn’t exactly an upstanding member of the church, not having gone in some years. The lady said that didn’t matter. It isn’t there just for Mormons in good standing, it is there for people in the community who are in need. That was a very Christian thing to do and she dearly needed the assistance at the time.
Makes me want to run out and buy a wheat grinder (inside joke).
Comment by crosspatch — October 21, 2012 @ 4:03 am - October 21, 2012 - The idea that Mormons don’t serve in the military is ludicrous. My dad was career Air Force, and he had lots of LDS colleagues. In fact, when we were stationed overseas, my dad had a life-threatening medical condition that required an extended stay in the ICU at a hospital a couple hours away from our home. Our Mormon friends took me and my sister in for a week so that my mom could stay with my dad 24/7 at the hospital. Obviously, Mormons are human beings, so there are good and bad ones, but I’ve found them to be, on average, more patriotic, more charitable and more community-oriented than most Americans. After four years of being led by a community organizer, I’m more than ready to be led by a faithful Mormon.
Comment by Mike — October 21, 2012 @ 8:37 am - October 21, 2012 - My great uncle was an active Mormon and served two tours in Vietnam.
Just sayin.
Comment by Mrs. Hill — October 21, 2012 @ 9:13 am - October 21, 2012 - I served with many Mormons over my 25 years in the USAF. Some called themselves “Jack Mormons” since they didn’t abstain from drinking and smoking. Some were very observant. All served honorably.
Whoopi Goldberg is, once more, running her mouth without having anything relevant loaded into her brain.
Comment by TOF — October 21, 2012 @ 10:58 am - October 21, 2012 - Thanks crosspatch that is interesting… I was raised Mormon and have not been active since childhood..and have never heard the term Jack Mormon… I still have MANY relatives that are practicing Mormon..they get a bad rap, Mormons are Christian and that is what people need to understand.
Comment by Theresa — October 21, 2012 @ 11:37 am - October 21, 2012 - Whoopi was holding to a stereotype about the “other” and she tried a “gotcha” which didn’t work because her stereotype was just plain wrong.
We all know that had she been a Repulican who tried such nonsense it would be news everywhere, on every TV station.
Comment by Charles