Quit picking on Obama……

ironsides

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Got me.

You got that whole thing wrong people who follow the liberal Democratic line are the sheep. The only things the Republicans have to do is get the major industries back up and running full speed again. The defense industry of course for one would put hundreds of thousands of people back to work. From what the defense industry produces flows new technologies for civilian use, including medical, industrial etc.
 

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The Republicans have no idea what to do other than spew out the same mantra over and over again...even dumbocrats are doing it now.

Cut taxes.

Taxes need to raised unless the public wants deep cuts in the military, medicaid and education.

You can't depend on growth forever, that system is unsustainable.


Over spending is what got the US into their present condition. I would argue that the military needs to be scaled back and let the UN spend their surplus in stead of the US, however, Americans (and Canadians if not all of the Western nations) need to move away from becoming welfare societies. Raising the tax burden will ultimately result in less investment, stalled growth and lower employment.

The days of gvt trying to be all things to all people are over... Greece is the wake-up call for that.
 

ironsides

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The surplus you are referring to in the U.N. is money given to the U.N. by the U.S. When I mentioned increase military spending, I was not referring to more wars, just keep improving what our military requires to stay on top. Major advances in defense area has improved society with what was created as the result of it and its research. Let the other countries other than the U.S. fund the U.N. for a few decades.
 

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''The defense industry of course for one would put hundreds of thousands of people back to work.''

But this raises the Federal deficit and taxes in order to finance it. This is something Republicans don't like.

Oh wait - when a Republican is in the White House deficits don't matter. Never mind .....
 

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Over spending is what got the US into their present condition. I would argue that the military needs to be scaled back and let the UN spend their surplus in stead of the US, however, Americans (and Canadians if not all of the Western nations) need to move away from becoming welfare societies. Raising the tax burden will ultimately result in less investment, stalled growth and lower employment.

The days of gvt trying to be all things to all people are over... Greece is the wake-up call for that.

Cutting the military is a good start Captain and I commend you for that.

What else would you cut?

You already stated on a thread along time ago to me that you are not against socila programs in this country.

Is medicaid to be axed? Who will do that? Not the dumbocrats or the republican'ts.

Ronald Reagans former budget chief thinks taxes are far to low.
 

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The surplus you are referring to in the U.N. is money given to the U.N. by the U.S. When I mentioned increase military spending, I was not referring to more wars, just keep improving what our military requires to stay on top. Major advances in defense area has improved society with what was created as the result of it and its research. Let the other countries other than the U.S. fund the U.N. for a few decades.

The UN. That is a good place to start cutting.
 

ironsides

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Wonder why Obama is so unpopular. He will never learn, 2012 he will be history even if it is another Democrat, yes almost anyone would be better. .
MUMBAI, India – Searching for help half a world away, President Barack Obama on Saturday embraced India as the next jobs-creating giant for hurting Americans, not a cheap-labor rival that outsources opportunity from the United States.

Obama calls India creator, not poacher, of US jobs - Yahoo! News
 

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The surplus you are referring to in the U.N. is money given to the U.N. by the U.S.



Yes, I agree. My take on the UN is that it is the virtual appendix of the international community.... It's there but serves no apparent or useful function.


When I mentioned increase military spending, I was not referring to more wars, just keep improving what our military requires to stay on top. Major advances in defense area has improved society with what was created as the result of it and its research. Let the other countries other than the U.S. fund the U.N. for a few decades.


Again, I agree... By in large, the US gets the sh*t end of the stick by the international community.

If your military goes into a country then you are labeled the aggressor... If your military doesn't go in, you are labeled heartless or that there were no resources to exploit.

It's a no-win situation.

Perhaps the answer is that the US "rents out" the military to the UN. The UN can determine when/where military intervention is needed and the UN can pay for the mob/demobilization and operating costs.... That'd sure shut-up the critics and provoke some thought to the global do-gooders if they were on the hook for the actual costs.

Cutting the military is a good start Captain and I commend you for that.

What else would you cut?

You already stated on a thread along time ago to me that you are not against socila programs in this country.

Is medicaid to be axed? Who will do that? Not the dumbocrats or the republican'ts.

Ronald Reagans former budget chief thinks taxes are far to low.


Everyone's got to take it on the chin.

Spending cuts across the board mixed with nominal tax increases across the board... Small increases such that it won't result in downsizing or scare away capital investment.

On that note, the state gvts and the feds can't be all things to all people... The scope and depth of teh social services have to be scaled-back as well.

As far as medicaid is concerned, the biggest question that has to be asked is; can they afford it?

What Reagan's former budget chief thinks is interesting.... I'm a little curious about where/who they would raise the taxes
 

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Talk Radio’s Savage: Voters Went for GOP to Halt Obama Socialism


Friday, 05 Nov 2010 06:29 PM



By Jim Meyers, with Kathleen Walter
Outspoken talk-radio host Michael Savage tells Newsmax that Americans voted overwhelmingly for Republicans on Tuesday to stop President Barack Obama from turning the nation into a “socialist state.”

Savage also says Obamacare is a “Frankenstein” monster in which “everyone loses,” declares that Obama is in “dreamland” when it comes to national security, and discloses that South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint is his choice for president in 2012.

Talk Radio?s Savage: Voters Went for GOP to Halt Obama Socialism
 

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Nobody on the left will believe this until Keith Olberman says so;-)

Keith Olbermann (having been described as "the deplorable one") will not say anything on TV for a while.

Too bad! I always got a big kick out of his "Worst Person In The World" segment, in fact, anytime I PVR'd his show I skipped his never-ending mud-slinging and hate-mongering treatment of conservatives, his inane chuckling - along with the usual gang of idiots - until I got to this segment. Then I had my own chuckle at the utter predictibility of his rantings, had my laugh and sent the bastard to cyber hell.

No, I do not wish Olbermann to be gone. Who else would have the nerve to call his show objective while not featuring one single person disagreeing with him? Who else would call the garbage he spews "NEWS"?

Who else could provide a cheap, good laugh like Olbermann?
 

YukonJack

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Wouldn't you rather be playing cribbage than PVRing BS political TV?

No, card games in general and cribbage in particular are things that never interested me.

Also, nobody can ever learn anything playing cards. Nobody can ever have a laugh induced by playing cards.

President Obama brought with him a technological miracle never before seen in India: THE TELEPROMPTER!!
 

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ironsides

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Hope this holds up.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama faces uncertain prospects for re-election in 2012 as many voters question whether he deserves a second term, a new poll said on Monday.
The Quinnipiac University poll said American voters by 49 percent to 43 percent do not think Obama has earned a second four-year term, and they put him in a statistical dead heat with potential Republican challengers Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.
Obama has struggled to bring down the stubbornly high U.S. jobless rate of 9.6 percent and his Democrats sustained huge losses in November 2 congressional elections.
At this point, Obama leads possible Republican challenger Sarah Palin by 48 percent to 40 percent, the poll found.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101122/pl_nm/us_usa_politics_obama


 

Avro

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Everyone's got to take it on the chin.

Spending cuts across the board mixed with nominal tax increases across the board... Small increases such that it won't result in downsizing or scare away capital investment.

On that note, the state gvts and the feds can't be all things to all people... The scope and depth of teh social services have to be scaled-back as well.

As far as medicaid is concerned, the biggest question that has to be asked is; can they afford it?

What Reagan's former budget chief thinks is interesting.... I'm a little curious about where/who they would raise the taxes

I agree to some extent Captain but what needs to be done is deep cuts to the tune of cutting military spending by two thirds and closing bases over seas while gutting medicaid....both you and I know that will never happen.

As well as this, realistic tax increases must be imposed and as far as Reagans former budget cheif goes he was proposing an across the board increase including ending the Bush tax cuts.