Public Sector Unions “Jobs For Life”
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Driving a bus is one of the worst jobs?
You've got to be either
a - kidding
or
b - completely disconnected from reality
split shifts, like the Purolator guys.
So a Purolator Courier driver must be one of the worst jobs going, too?
Or a school bus driver?
Do you honestly think you could do it day after day after day through Toronto traffic. It would be a mind-numbingly boring job where you have to be on your toes all the time. I would snap by the 4th week.
Boring makes it one of the worst jobs?
Sounds pretty goddam easy to me. Drive a bus. Stop for passengers. repeat.
If you find that difficult, you must be a mental midget.
Purolator drivers get out of the truck on a regular basis. School bus drivers aren't usually behind the wheel as long but generally speaking the job has much of the same suckage value.
I didn't say it was difficult. I said it was boring (mostly because it isn't difficult).
Honey wagon is about the ****tiest driving job. Now that would really suck.
Waste is a terrible thing to mind.
Waste is a terrible thing to mind.
you said it was one of the worst jobs out there.
You've got to be kidding.
Have you ever worked for a living?
Perhaps it would help if you tried to keep things in the context of the thread. We are, after all, discussing the City of Toronto workers. What job with the city of TO would you suggest is worse than driving a bus?
That's only bad if you are bothered by puke. Lots of folks don't mind messy stuff. Hell, I worked in the hospital laundry when I was in high school. Saw lots of nasty **** but it never bothered me.
As for contracting out of services the high priced union worker will be replaced by a high priced contracting fees, which will not be able to be changed as they can with the in-house labour force.
Contracting out involves a contract for a certain term and if the city wants more to be done then that would cost more.
With in-house labour the job can be changed, as the public demands it.
The only solution to the city of Toronto's woes is making all city workers an essential service like Toronto recently did with the Toronto Transit Commission or TTC.
As an essential service the right to strike is taken off the table and during the contract negotiations both parties give their wish list to binding arbitration if they can’t reach a negotiated settlement and it will be decided by a third party which amounts to the roll of the dice.
The city of Toronto will have to make management more accountable to make sure that efficiency rules are followed.
By your standards, then, driving a bus is only bad if you are bothered by driving a bus, and is therefore not 'one of the worst jobs' out there.
Have you ever worked in a sewage treatment plant? Have you ever been in one?
No, it's bad because it's boring. Toronto firefighters start at the same wage as a bus driver and if CB's numbers are correct, pretty much mirror that of bus drivers (until they become fire officers). People are lining up to be firefighters and not bus drivers. Why? the bus driving job sucks.
Yes on both accounts.
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I don't know much about To lack of work ethic but I do know how it works here and to be fair it is neither union nor management's fault but this is a small town. Coffee break is 10:00, lunch 1200 etc. The city employees go back to the yard for each break which uses up much of the short work time between breaks. This came about not because of any union problems but because some simpleminded retired people here would complain to city hall that the workers were just sitting around instead of working. So now they all go in and the simple minded have no clue of the expense they created for themselves.
