Prince of Wales becomes oldest heir to the Throne for 300 years

Spade

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Cliff is no longer with us? Must be dozing on his king-sized sofa.
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I got to thinking about the monarchy in Canada. Remember, as children, at a child's birthday party, we would give that child the "royal bumps"! No longer the case. Hmmmm....
 

Cliffy

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Cliff is no longer with us? Must be dozing on his king-sized sofa.
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I got to thinking about the monarchy in Canada. Remember, as children, at a child's birthday party, we would give that child the "royal bumps"! No longer the case. Hmmmm....
Royal bumps? Sounds akin to Whack-a-Mole.
 

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I predict that Charles will inherit the throne when he is 75 years old. He will have a short reign, and then William will take over in his early 50's.
 

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The future King William IV (reigned 1830-37) in 1800, an ancestor of both the Queen, her descendants, and PM David Cameron

He had many good points, did King William IV. Before the Reform Crisis he was much admired by his people, who saw his as more down-to-earth than his extravagant brother and predecessor George IV (the former Prince Regent).

At the age of thirteen, he joined the Royal Navy as a midshipman, and was present at the Battle of Cape St. Vincent in 1780 when the British defeated the Spanish in the American War of Independence. This earned him the nickname the Sailor King.

He immediately proved himself a conscientious worker. William IV's first Prime Minister, the Duke of Wellington, stated that he had done more business with William IV in ten minutes than he had with George IV in as many days. Lord Brougham described him as an excellent man of business, asking enough questions to help him understand the matter—whereas George IV feared to ask questions lest he display his ignorance and George III would ask too many and then not wait for a response.

The King did his best to endear himself to the people. Charlotte Williams-Wynn wrote shortly after his accession: "Hitherto the King has been indefatigable in his efforts to make himself popular, and do good natured and amiable things in every possible instance." Emily Eden noted: "He is an immense improvement on the last unforgiving animal, who died growling sulkily in his den at Windsor. This man at least wishes to make everybody happy, and everything he has done has been benevolent."


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He was probably the first person to realise that a Suez Canal would foster good relations between Britain and Egypt.

Later in his reign, he flattered the American ambassador at a dinner by announcing that he regretted not being "born a free, independent American, so much did he respect that nation, which had given birth to George Washington, the greatest man that ever lived". Whether he meant it or not is debateable but, by exercising his personal charm, William assisted in the repair of Anglo-American relations, which had been so deeply damaged during the reign of his father, George III.

Anthony Eden was the Second, BL..


The King's low point came when he seriously underestimated how badly the 'Masses' wanted political reform. To his credit, he put the initial reforms through the House of Lords before England had a second Civil war.
 

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I'm of two minds about that. They sure perk up business when they come visiting.

They also clog the streets. When William and Kate were here year or two ago the streets were totally packed. I forgot they were going to be here on that particular day. It took about 15 minutes to walk two blocks between Elgin street and the Rideau Centre.
 

JLM

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They also clog the streets. When William and Kate were here year or two ago the streets were totally packed. I forgot they were going to be here on that particular day. It took about 15 minutes to walk two blocks between Elgin street and the Rideau Centre.

I'm not sure how two people clog a street, it's not like they are overly obese. -:)
 

Omicron

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No. I went to bed after midnight and was up at 5. I'm about to head back now before I rip someone else's nuts off. Good morning.

Good morning to you too. That means along the way to your coffee I can bug your head with some ideas while dancing just out of slug-range.

What do you think about how in 1982 QE-II offered the Canadian Crown to Andrew if Ottawa would build him a palace good enough for a new King to live in, and Trudeau rejected it?

Americans spend $200 million per year on pagentry tourism, and Canada has all the stuff it takes to build movie set-dec's extending to paying RCMP to wear their formal uniforms... plus build - I was gonna say bear-drawn chariots, but really, all one gotta do is reighn in some northern caribou, and feed them well while keeping their toes clipped to make them good tuggers - a "Castle" that would be as big a cost on Canada's economy as the construction of ten miles of highway, such that it would pay for itself and make a profit, and @#$%hole Trudeau rejected it! Why?

The point is: The Canadian crown is not the same as the British nor Australian Crown. It just happens to be the same person holding them right now, and she offered to give it to her second son if Canada would set him up.

That means as much to me as an image of Jesus on a piece of toast.
Well... worst case scenario if you took that to court in Mexico would be they'd hook you on how you recognized it as a portrait of Jesus. You'd still have to pay your way out... just a different way.

Speaking of Mexico and how criminaly charged Americans have to buy their way out by skipping bail...

It can't be that bad, because at least one former head of the World Bank retired there.
 
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JLM

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When are we going to get rid of the expensive outdated bullsh-t institution that is the monarchy.

Don't hold your breath Nick, I would guess by the welcome Will and Katie got on their visit here and all the interest in the birth of the new heir, it ain't going to happen in our lifetime. They don't bother me, why would they bother you?
 

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When are we going to get rid of the expensive outdated bullsh-t institution that is the monarchy.
As soon as we become a democracy.


There is a very good chance that the present monarch will be the last british parasite we will have to suffer. I have it on reliable inside word that Scotland will rise up followed by the Irish and both take their revenge on the degenerate briitish.
 

SLM

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They also clog the streets. When William and Kate were here year or two ago the streets were totally packed. I forgot they were going to be here on that particular day. It took about 15 minutes to walk two blocks between Elgin street and the Rideau Centre.

Yeah but they're not the only ones that cause those kind of problems, most visiting dignitaries cause disruption. Realities of living in a capital.
 

PoliticalNick

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Don't hold your breath Nick, I would guess by the welcome Will and Katie got on their visit here and all the interest in the birth of the new heir, it ain't going to happen in our lifetime. They don't bother me, why would they bother you?

I could care less except for the price tag we pay every time they come here. It was $1.2 million for the trip plus all the costs for extra police & security.

High price tag for Will and Kate’s Canadian tour | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

OTTAWA - The price of giving regular shlubs the chance to catch a glimpse of Will and Kate on Canada Day accounts for a full third of the estimated $1.2 million Canadian tour cost.

Canada Day events for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge amounted to $400,000 according to a newly revealed line-by-line cost estimate.

A Calgary reception for about 800 guests is expected to cost $150,000.

Photography, videography and translation for the tour add more than $75,000 to the bill taxpayers will have to cover.

In documents obtained under the Access to Information Act by researcher Ken Rubin, flowers for the royal couple ring in at an estimated $775, while Prince William's personal Canadian flag carries a $3,400 price tag.

The Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Alberta and Northwest Territories governments will help cover the costs associated with the portions of the tour in their jurisdictions.

Still, the federal government's $1.2 million estimate doesn't cover all the tour costs.

What the tour will cost the Department of National Defence, Parks Canada and Heritage Canada hasn't been calculated yet.

The RCMP is accompanying Will and Kate everywhere across Canada, but the force says it has no cost estimate and won't know the final bill until after the royals have left.

Then there are the local policing costs.

Ottawa Police say they don't yet know the final bill for them, but last year's overtime costs for Canada Day policing during Queen Elizabeth's visit came in at $210,000.

Aside from the costs, there are also economic benefits from Will and Kate's tour.

Tourism officials in PEI have said they're thrilled with the exposure the island received through the royal visit.

Officials in Calgary report higher than usual hotel occupancy, and there were reports that Ottawa hotels were booked solid at the start of the tour.