Of course he made it up. There are no stats to back up that outrageous claim. I don't doubt he is controlling but also so rigid that a fart must be very painful.
Pot may prolong pain, not relieve it: Study
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Of course he made it up. There are no stats to back up that outrageous claim. I don't doubt he is controlling but also so rigid that a fart must be very painful.
You're passing information along concerning cannabis and its use that is verifiably at odds with the facts thus far recorded. There is no drug more damaging drug than alcohol. Cannabis is by far the safest treatment for fully thirty per-cent of known human diseases and would be the preferred treatment were it legalized and available. I find it rediculous that you would state that your associates from your drug days left that lifestyle as cannabis consumption is not a lifestyle and never has been and further to that it is not the much discussed gateway drug of the Reefer Mania movie. No proof or even hint of proof can back either of your claims. So I'm wondering just what's behind your stubborn condemnation of what has been described as the surest bet for a wonder drug surpassing penicillin in value.
Clearly cannabis has been kept off the shelves for reasons other than stated we can easily infere that it was most definitely for commercial and financial reason and none other. Refusal to conduct open and honest medical research in North America isthe surest condemnation of the motives of exponents of proabition like yourself.
I don't know even one of my long term associates of forty years that has graduated to hard drugs. Many of them are successful happy professionals and trades people.
One of us is wrong the other is confused or worse. IMHO
Harper Appoints Evangelical Pastor to 'Study' Marijuana and Schizophrenia
By Jacob Hunter, WhyProhibition.ca - Thursday, August 20 2009
WHYPROHIBITION.CA - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has pledged $555,000 to study the links between cannabis and mental illness, and has put evangelical pastor Chris Summerville in charge of the project.
Chris Summerville is the is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada and an evangelical pastor.The new Canadian Mental Health Commission is "a wonderful opportunity" for Christians to be involved in dealing with one of the most pressing issues in our society, according to one of its members.
Chris Summerville is one of 11 non-government members of the new Commission's board of directors. Besides struggling with mental health issues himself, he is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, and a certified Psychosocial Rehabilitation Practitioner. He is also a committed Christian and an ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canada.
Summerville said he hopes to bring a holistic approach to the issue that addresses body, mind, soul and spirit.
According to the Associated Gospel Church website, history section: "The AGC traces its beginnings to the early 1890s when a group of independent evangelical churches became known as the Christian Workers' Church of Canada"
UPDATE: The Canadian Schizophrenia Society Board of Directors contain no apparent Medical Doctors or PhD's, and the first name of the list appears to be a police officer from Toronto.
UPDATE 2: Pam Forsythe is a practising Psychiatrist
For more info, check out the announcement yesterda
By Jacob Hunter, WhyProhibition.ca - Thursday, August 20 2009
WHYPROHIBITION.CA - Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has pledged $555,000 to study the links between cannabis and mental illness, and has put evangelical pastor Chris Summerville in charge of the project.
Chris Summerville is one of 11 non-government members of the new Commission's board of directors. Besides struggling with mental health issues himself, he is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, and a certified Psychosocial Rehabilitation Practitioner. He is also a committed Christian and an ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canada.
Summerville said he hopes to bring a holistic approach to the issue that addresses body, mind, soul and spirit.
According to the Associated Gospel Church website, history section: "The AGC traces its beginnings to the early 1890s when a group of independent evangelical churches became known as the Christian Workers' Church of Canada"
UPDATE: The Canadian Schizophrenia Society Board of Directors contain no apparent Medical Doctors or PhD's, and the first name of the list appears to be a police officer from Toronto.
UPDATE 2: Pam Forsythe is a practising Psychiatrist
For more info, check out the announcement yesterda
Harper appoints Evangelical Pastor to "Study" Marijuana and Schizophrenia
Submitted by Jacob Hunter on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 11:00
The new Canadian Mental Health Commission is "a wonderful opportunity" for Christians to be involved in dealing with one of the most pressing issues in our society, according to one of its members.
Chris Summerville is one of 11 non-government members of the new Commission's board of directors. Besides struggling with mental health issues himself, he is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, and a certified Psychosocial Rehabilitation Practitioner. He is also a committed Christian and an ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canada.
Summerville said he hopes to bring a holistic approach to the issue that addresses body, mind, soul and spirit.
According to the Associated Gospel Church website, history section: "The AGC traces its beginnings to the early 1890s when a group of independent evangelical churches became known as the Christian Workers' Church of Canada"
UPDATE: The Canadian Schizophrenia Society Board of Directors contain no apparent Medical Doctors or PhD's, and the first name of the list appears to be a police officer from Toronto.
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Submitted by Jacob Hunter on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 11:00
The new Canadian Mental Health Commission is "a wonderful opportunity" for Christians to be involved in dealing with one of the most pressing issues in our society, according to one of its members.
Chris Summerville is one of 11 non-government members of the new Commission's board of directors. Besides struggling with mental health issues himself, he is the interim CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, executive director of the Manitoba Schizophrenia Society, and a certified Psychosocial Rehabilitation Practitioner. He is also a committed Christian and an ordained pastor with the Associated Gospel Churches of Canada.
Summerville said he hopes to bring a holistic approach to the issue that addresses body, mind, soul and spirit.
According to the Associated Gospel Church website, history section: "The AGC traces its beginnings to the early 1890s when a group of independent evangelical churches became known as the Christian Workers' Church of Canada"
UPDATE: The Canadian Schizophrenia Society Board of Directors contain no apparent Medical Doctors or PhD's, and the first name of the list appears to be a police officer from Toronto.
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Aren't you afeared that you might get zapped with a lightning bolt for a whopper like that?
Here you go Steven give me 550,00 dollars I'm a christian.
Assessing the impact of cannabis use on trends in diagnosed schizophrenia in the United Kingdom from 1996 to 2005
Submitted by Jacob Hunter on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 07:49
By. Martin Frisher, Ilana Crome, Orsolina Martino, Peter Croft
Abstract
A recent systematic review concluded that cannabis use increases risk of psychotic outcomes independently of confounding and transient intoxication effects. Furthermore, a model of the association between cannabis use and schizophrenia indicated that the incidence and prevalence of schizophrenia would increase from 1990 onwards. The model is based on three factors: a) increased relative risk of psychotic outcomes for frequent cannabis users compared to those who have never used cannabis between 1.8 and 3.1, b) a substantial rise in UK cannabis use from the mid-1970s and c) elevated risk of 20 years from first use of cannabis. This paper investigates whether this has occurred in the UK by examining trends in the annual prevalence and incidence of schizophrenia and psychoses, as measured by diagnosed cases from 1996 to 2005. Retrospective analysis of the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) was conducted for 183 practices in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The study cohort comprised almost 600,000 patients each year, representing approximately 2.3% of the UK population aged 16 to 44. Between 1996 and 2005 the incidence and prevalence of schizophrenia and psychoses were either stable or declining. Explanations other than a genuine stability or decline were considered, but appeared less plausible. In conclusion, this study did not find any evidence of increasing schizophrenia or psychoses in the general population from 1996 to 2005.
http://www.whyprohibition.ca/sites/...s use on trend in diagnosed schizophrenia.pdf
Assessing the impact of cannabis use on trends in diagnosed schizophrenia in the United Kingdom from 1996 to 2005
Submitted by Jacob Hunter on Tue, 07/07/2009 - 07:49
By. Martin Frisher, Ilana Crome, Orsolina Martino, Peter Croft
Abstract
A recent systematic review concluded that cannabis use increases risk of psychotic outcomes independently of confounding and transient intoxication effects. Furthermore, a model of the association between cannabis use and schizophrenia indicated that the incidence and prevalence of schizophrenia would increase from 1990 onwards. The model is based on three factors: a) increased relative risk of psychotic outcomes for frequent cannabis users compared to those who have never used cannabis between 1.8 and 3.1, b) a substantial rise in UK cannabis use from the mid-1970s and c) elevated risk of 20 years from first use of cannabis. This paper investigates whether this has occurred in the UK by examining trends in the annual prevalence and incidence of schizophrenia and psychoses, as measured by diagnosed cases from 1996 to 2005. Retrospective analysis of the General Practice Research Database (GPRD) was conducted for 183 practices in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The study cohort comprised almost 600,000 patients each year, representing approximately 2.3% of the UK population aged 16 to 44. Between 1996 and 2005 the incidence and prevalence of schizophrenia and psychoses were either stable or declining. Explanations other than a genuine stability or decline were considered, but appeared less plausible. In conclusion, this study did not find any evidence of increasing schizophrenia or psychoses in the general population from 1996 to 2005.
http://www.whyprohibition.ca/sites/...s use on trend in diagnosed schizophrenia.pdf
In an article of The Times entitled "Drugs are evil. We should legalise them now" the authors state: "The harm this market causes comes both from its existence and its illegality. And there's only one of those we can tackle." The article continues: "The victims of this lost war are everywhere. There are those who choose to be victims, ... Then there are the collateral victims: those that the junkies rob to fund their habits, ... There are 11,000 dead Mexicans on the front line, ... There are the British and American soldiers killed by weapons bought by opium dollars." (Source: The Times of 31 July 2009
Mexico Legalizes Drug Possession
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 21, 2009
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico enacted a controversial law on Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging government-financed treatment for drug dependency free of charge.
The law sets out maximum “personal use” amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution; the law goes into effect on Friday.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory — although no penalties for noncompliance are specified.
Mexican authorities said the change only recognized the longstanding practice here of not prosecuting people caught with small amounts of drugs.
The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for “personal use” under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four marijuana cigarettes. Other limits are half a gram of cocaine, 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams of LSD.
President Felipe Calderón waited months before approving the law.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: August 21, 2009
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico enacted a controversial law on Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging government-financed treatment for drug dependency free of charge.
The law sets out maximum “personal use” amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution; the law goes into effect on Friday.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory — although no penalties for noncompliance are specified.
Mexican authorities said the change only recognized the longstanding practice here of not prosecuting people caught with small amounts of drugs.
The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for “personal use” under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four marijuana cigarettes. Other limits are half a gram of cocaine, 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams of LSD.
President Felipe Calderón waited months before approving the law.
You seem to run your life on prejudice, cliffy. You knock around slander and complete falsehoods on Christianity. You don't know me, and yet like your contrived charicatures of organized religion, you have already developed an image of me in your mind, maybe founded in some unfavourable childhood experiences, from which you will not deviate. So i'm rigid, eh.. pot, kettle, black.
DB, it would not surprise me if Cannabis was implicated in intensifying psychoses, of which schizophrenia is an extreme form. There is a nasty side to habitual use of marijuana. Most of the favourable 'research' on marijuana comes from a political lobby that is associated with rebellious interrelated New Age endeavours of all sorts. It is an icon to the old 'counter-culture', which includes a grab bag of iconoclastic causes, deeply antipathetic to modern, technoligical, Western culture.
However, if you have seen my previous posts on the subject, you'd know i have accepted that it is a part of growing up in our modern culture. I'm against legalization, especially for the crock of 'medical' reasons, but likewise i'm not for burdening some casual user with a felonious criminal record for life either.
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Seems to me the only use you see for cannabis is abuse. Why not do a little research because I'll tell you right now: Jesus doesn't do a freakin' thing to ease my pain whereas weed does - even as far as fixing up the "poor me's" on those really bad days when meditation and a wee puff just aren't enough....
Nobody ever said it was a cure. Pain is a friend when it can remind you not to be stupid and exceed your limits. Chemistry (doctor-prescribed junk) numbs it to the point where it's too easy to overdo it.
Pray? Ha!
Nobody ever said it was a cure. Pain is a friend when it can remind you not to be stupid and exceed your limits. Chemistry (doctor-prescribed junk) numbs it to the point where it's too easy to overdo it.
Pray? Ha!
Actually, I see life as a cartoon and when I hear someone making outrageous claims based on nothing but their own warped personal opinions, I am bound to respond to them in a like manner. Their is nothing contrived about my characterization of religion, particularly the catholic variety because history is right there to read if you can do so with an open mind. Everything I said about witch hunts, inquisitions, child rape and murder are a matter of public record.
The church is reeling from the financial loses imposed by the courts because the church tried to cover up the problem in the first place by moving know pedophiles to different parishes when they were caught or to the Vatican where they had diplomatic immunity. You are the one who refuses to accept what has happened and are trying to deflect blame by pointing at those godless miscreants in the New Age movement. Sooner or later the reality of the situation is going to bite you on the ass just like it did to the church.
Chemistry rarely even numbs it for me. It just makes me high enough to not care. The one I take when I'm in a real bind and can't sleep through the pain, is a codeine product. I take it, sit around and wait until I feel like my face is melting, then go pass out for a couple hours. Yeah... there's a really smart alternative to pot.
There are none so blind as those who will not see. There you are coldstream in violation of the word. Your willful disregard for the truth does not compliment your intelligence. If you cannot open the mind to accept the truth then you must face trial by redundancy, the fruit of dogma. I have nothing in common with the new-agers and the western culture you laud is without doubt the worst example of human waste and sloth the world has ever witnessed, a veritable toilet bowl of corruption and perversion. It is done and that is good.
Sometimes there just is no recourse other than to suffer the pain. I find as you grow older you simply collect pain and ailments that the doctor can't figure out, and nothing seems to allieviate. I've learned to live with pain myself. It comes and goes but some days I can't get up. On those days I simply get melted and wait for it to pass. There is no getting comfortable, just distracted.
Having kids depending on you is a bugger though. I tried to make arrangements with other parents to pick up or drop off when I would get aching. Making arrangements for them to get along themsleves while your suffering on the couch or in bed helps to get through that day. But pain is pain and sometimes stuff helps and sometimes it just doesn't.
I don't think it should be considered that Cannabis is something of an analgesic. But for major pain I think it can help with the side effects of drugs geared to deal with that sort of pain in helping to put you in a better, more positive mood, ease the stomach and help to relax you. All these things can help provide relief.
Open mind eh, cliffy. :roll:
I'd suggest you read Pope Benedict's three Encyclicals, on Divine Love (Deus Caritas Est), Hope (Spe Salvi), and Christian Charity (Caritas in Veritate), corresponding closely to the character of true religion in Faith, Hope and Charity.. which might remedy your completely artificial and contrived concept of what faith actually is.
Not only is your mind a locked cabinet, apparently no light has penetrated from you purported 'religious' upbringing. Open indeed :-?
They available at Papal Encyclical On-line, but i know you are far to closed minded, and resistant to any challenge to your artifice of half baked, perjorative opinions to try. Worth a try though. :smile:
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I've hit the point where I fight it. No pain relief during the day... nothing leaves me clear enough to see unexpected company, make a quick trip to the store, etc. So I get nothing. I grit my teeth and move instead. Up and down the stairs, off to swimming, hit the gym, maybe go for a bike ride. I get pain relief at night in the shape of a shot glass of something dark and strong. It helps relax the muscles, helps me sleep, so I'm more ready for the next day of fighting it again.
I come on here to distract in the meantime, pop up between posts to clean a bathroom, sweep a floor, then reward myself with more distraction. It's working, but, not ideal by any means.
Soak some primo bud in the "something dark and strong" for a couple of weeks and you have a double whammy of pain killer and muscle relaxant. A shot glass won't get you whacked but is much more effective than just a shot. I made mine with a good Brandy Liqueur.