Police is our god?

CDNBear

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The new reality sucks, eh? We have been sliding down this road for a long time. It just got worse a little at a time so most people didn't even notice. I've been watching for 45 years but most people are still in denial.
Is it really the new reality, or is it that because of the media and the internet, we hear about it more?

One bad cop paints a target on ten good ones. Biggest problem is nine of those good cops will feel obligated to back up their bad buddy in a pinch.
This is true, it is a brotherhood.

I think most cops are honest and try to do a good job, it's rather unfair to paint them all as being corrupt etc.
I agree. But like the young Officer in Grumpdiggers other thread, we need more cops willing to apply the law equally.

Im not talking about those cops who murder their wives or do DUI.
Why not, they're just as bad, non?

Im talking about the ^good^ ones. They dont conduct their investigations right, they make offensive comments, they treat u like a criminal.
That's a serious allegation. Has the case you are concerned with gone to trial yet?

AND U CANT EVEN MAKE A COMPLAINT because they are immune and u r gonna lose.
That's not true. There are venues for recourse. That have worked to get bad cops off the streets.

This thread about "Police is our god?", is a good way to get your message out. But try and be reasonable please. It will make getting your message out, so much easier on you.
 

lone wolf

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First they arrest an innocent person because ANYBODY can accuse u of ANYTHING
and then they do their F....ng investifation
Anyone can accuse ... but if a Judge discovers malice, that "anyone" has to face much more serious music. It sucks, but all you can really do is stay calm while you're making noise.

This is true, it is a brotherhood.

That, in a nutshell, is why my son gave up 10 years with Toronto Police - and another six months with Edmonton. "You-lie-and-I'll-swear-to-it" wasn't a Church he wanted any part in.
 

CDNBear

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Anyone can accuse ... but if a Judge discovers malice, that "anyone" has to face much more serious music. It sucks, but all you can really do is stay calm while you're making noise.
Even making noise can get you unwanted negative attention.

Cops have been known to be used as heavies, when the Crown wants you to back down.

That, in a nutshell, is why my son gave up 10 years with Toronto Police - and another six months with Edmonton. "You-lie-and-I'll-swear-to-it" wasn't a Church he wanted any part in.
You raised a good lad bud.
 

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First they arrest an innocent person because ANYBODY can accuse u of ANYTHING
and then they do their F....ng investifation

There is only one way the world can operate in a sane and safe manner and that is on the assumption that most people are reasonable and honest, so placing yourself in the position of witnessing a crime/criminal & reporting it would you want your report to be ignored because there is a chance it isn't valid? Best to act on the side of safety and make necessary adjustments later.
 

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There is only one way the world can operate in a sane and safe manner and that is on the assumption that most people are reasonable and honest, so placing yourself in the position of witnessing a crime/criminal & reporting it would you want your report to be ignored because there is a chance it isn't valid? Best to act on the side of safety and make necessary adjustments later.
it is not a murder case u know, when something must be done right away. They had a reasonable time frame to do it right. Did not even talk to the witnesses. Sorry, wrong - they talked to 1 witness who actually pointed that the accused did not do it. And that witness was a friend of the *victim*
 

CDNBear

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it is not a murder case u know, when something must be done right away. They had a reasonable time frame to do it right. Did not even talk to the witnesses. Sorry, wrong - they talked to 1 witness who actually pointed that the accused did not do it. And that witness was a friend of the *victim*
OK, so why did they go after the person they eventually charged?

Who accused that person?
 

CDNBear

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another kid, who always wants to be in a centre of attention. There is a big drama now around him///
That's a familiar scenario.

May I ask what the charges are? I hate to pry, but I'm trying to get a better understanding of what is/was going on.
 

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I cant give much details, u know. im not supposed to. i just blv the arrest was premature and unreasonable. Several teenagers are playing on a schoolyard, just being silly. I did not see NO crime committed.
 

CDNBear

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I cant give much details, u know. im not supposed to. i just blv the arrest was premature and unreasonable. Several teenagers are playing on a schoolyard, just being silly. I did not see NO crime committed.
I am fully aware of the legalities of youthful crime, and the reporting there of.

But the charge is actually a matter of public record. I don't want to know what happened, or who was involved, I'm just curious about the actual charge.

If it was assault of sexual assault, I can assure you, the Officer had very little choice.
 

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Anyone can accuse ... but if a Judge discovers malice, that "anyone" has to face much more serious music. It sucks, but all you can really do is stay calm while you're making noise.



That, in a nutshell, is why my son gave up 10 years with Toronto Police - and another six months with Edmonton. "You-lie-and-I'll-swear-to-it" wasn't a Church he wanted any part in.
unfortunately, it is hard, almost impossible to prove that that "anyone" falsely accused a person intentionally

I am fully aware of the legalities of youthful crime, and the reporting there of.

But the charge is actually a matter of public record. I don't want to know what happened, or who was involved, I'm just curious about the actual charge.

If it was assault of sexual assault, I can assure you, the Officer had very little choice.
u r smart
the boy is a very good student, not a troublemaker, and this s''''t happened to him//// i am lost

u know it is a very serious charge, the boy's life is ruined
and considering that should not the police be more careful ?
 

CanadianLove

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what do u mean?

I meant NOT convicted, Sorry about that.

Like Bear said if it anything to do with an assault of any kind they have to act. I believe that if the crime has anything to do with a victim who is a minor they also have to act. Release documents are normally with a restaining order of some type. These are more likely what will screw his life. If he doesn't follow the orders he will be charged outright and direct to court?

Has he had any formal charges laid against him yet? Has he had to give his finger prints? Is a court date set? Once court is over he is good to go or he gets time in the corrections.
 

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As much an honourable profession as any other.

Can you clarify that statement for me JLM?

That is a simple one- example, you show up at the police station and report that you just witnessed a child being abducted and hauled away in a car license # xyz 234, is the cop going to hesitate checking into it on the off chance you are not honest?
 

lone wolf

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another kid, who always wants to be in a centre of attention. There is a big drama now around him///

:smile: Welcome to the Forums :smile:

unfortunately, it is hard, almost impossible to prove that that "anyone" falsely accused a person intentionally


u r smart
the boy is a very good student, not a troublemaker, and this s''''t happened to him//// i am lost

u know it is a very serious charge, the boy's life is ruined
and considering that should not the police be more careful ?
Oh my, but I feel like a little reflecting....

A few years back, a good friend - one of the good ones, and I do know more than a few - stopped me in the crosswalk. He warned me that, even though my son was over eighteen (just) he felt, as a friend he should give me a heads up. Breakup brings out the worst in people and his ex was having hissy fits.

In a town with two main streets, how does one avoid crossing paths?

He warned she'd complained of stalking, and if she called again, he'd have to arrest. I understood his position. Then I told him I'd have to lay a charge of my own....

He grinned.... High school wasn't all doom and gloom

"She's twenty-four. He's eighteen. They've been three years together...."

"Yeah, she revealed that...." he chipped in

"Think about it.... What fifteen-year-old with a hard-on is going to turn down something that looks like that ... if you can see where I'm going here?..."

He grinned from ear to ear and goes "Loud and Clear!"

Point is, they hang themselves ... eventually. The girl had a history with musicians....

As much an honourable profession as any other.
Best part for him is the music. Many's the great tune got wrote in a truck....

BTW...;-) Nice snip!....
 
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Kakato

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I understand how that may seem backwards. But depending on the accusation, the police may have to act in the interests of public safety, with or without any evidence.

Think about how it would be for an officer, if he is told someone has committed a crime, and he does nothing, and the person that was accused of committing that crime goes on to commit further crimes, or more serious crimes.

I've been arrested on a simple false complaint, a couple times. It's not uncommon.

getting justice for being falsely accused, is uncommon.
Well Well,Well! the truth comes out,and now your pulling the same ****e?

Funny why this does not surprise me.


Still waiting for the cops to show up here,guess your mostly hot air eh?

Their probably still laughing at the detachment.
Your what would be known as complainent of the week.
 
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