PM has spun such a web of deceit he should resign or be dismissed

[tay]

Shifty Steve Harper has been busy lately trying to write off his former chief of staff, Nigel Wright, as a rogue. Harper has accused Wright of deception in the under the table cash scandal with Mike Duffy and Harper has recently tried to amend the record claiming he fired Wright, a shift from his earlier statement that Wright had resigned.

Without directly calling Shifty a liar, a couple of prominent Tories have seemingly defied Harper in coming to the aid of Wright. Jason Kenney was first out the gate, defending Wright's integrity. Peter MacKay has since come out with even less equivocal praise for Wright

“I’ve known Nigel a long time, he’s a very principled individual, he’s somebody who is honest, he’s worked hard for our party in the past,” MacKay said.

“That’s my opinion, that’s my view of Nigel.”

Bear in mind that MacKay is giving Wright something of a clean bill of health at the same time as a growing majority of the Canadian public finds Shifty anything but a "very principled individual ...who is honest."

Maybe these guys are truly sensing blood in the water - Stephen Joseph Harper's blood. You think they haven't been waiting for that? I wonder how busy they are chumming the waters at the convention to assess who would support them if Shifty falls?

Senior Tories break script and pull Nigel Wright out from under Harper’s bus | National Post

 

[relic]

I've been watching this unfold, listening to the lackeys read from their scripts, a few interviews with members of the "base "in Calgary, parroting the great leaders BS and I can't understand how any logical, thinking person wouldn't think that these people {conservatives} aren't fukking retarded !!!

 

[Nuggler]

1. This isn't even close to Adscam.
2. Harper will survive this.
3. Who would be an alternative to the serving government. Mulchair? The Air Apparent?

As a final thought. I would contend that Martin was Chretien's fall guy.

Under the bus he went, RCS. The huge govt. surplus stolen from the Employment Insurance fund not withstanding.

 

[darkbeaver]

The sad thing is, if we Westerners overthrew our governments there's be a bunch of zealots from all sides waiting in the wings to save us.

The sadder thing appears to be what happens if we continue to tolerate the liars and thieves foisted upon us by the money gangsters. We don't actually have a government, they do.

“I’ve known Nigel a long time, he’s a very principled individual, he’s somebody who is honest, he’s worked hard for our party in the past,” MacKay said.

“That’s my opinion, that’s my view of Nigel.”




Pete the knife MacKay. A fine judge of character?

 

[Zipperfish]

"Rick! I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in your place!"
--Louie the Chef des Gendarmes, Casablanca

Awesome quote!

 

[pgs]

Harper runs the risk of splitting the party if Canadians hold to their view.
Most believe he lied, Yes it is as big as adscam. Not in the scope of the
financial dealings but in the ethical and moral context. Harper came to
power saying he would put an end to this kind of deceitful actions.
He didn't instead he worked quietly to make the bad situation one that
might not be tenable in the long term. Its one thing to be short with the
truth in a moving set of events. Its another to flat out promise to end a
long deceitful practice then allegedly practice deceit. He should resign.
Let someone else in the Party take over until the next election.
I don't think he will win another term anyway. Canadians are getting
ready to change their minds again like they always do.

You are still not voting for Harper and the Conservatives what a surprise .
As big as adscam in your and the media parties dreams.

 

[captain morgan]

You are still not voting for Harper and the Conservatives what a surprise .
As big as adscam in your and the media parties dreams.

Amazing how that little event never makes it on the radar of the ideologues in this discussion.

 

[pgs]

Amazing how that little event never makes it on the radar of the ideologues in this discussion.

Of course not, that would go against the narrative that Conservatives are evil incarnate .

 

[Sal]

You're such an optimist.


Not with a bang, but a squeal.

does the squeal come before or after the whimper?

 

[captain morgan]

Of course not, that would go against the narrative that Conservatives are evil incarnate .

The best comment so far had to do with someone questioning the applicable laws at the time that Mulcair did the very same thing.... And here I thought that this was about ethics or that fraud ten years ago is the same as fraud today

 

[jwmcq625]

Problem is, is it acceptable to keep a bald faced liar in the Prime Minster's Office, and if so we have come down a long way Canada, if it okay for our PM to lie and deceie thepublic at every turn. How can he be trusted with the public's purse?

 

[captain morgan]

Problem is, is it acceptable to keep a bald faced liar in the Prime Minster's Office, and if so we have come down a long way Canada, if it okay for our PM to lie and deceie thepublic at every turn. How can he be trusted with the public's purse?

Being a bald-faced liar is an absolutely necessary trait for a PM.

Need I mention Chretin, Mulroney, Trudeau?

 

[Sal]

The best comment so far had to do with someone questioning the applicable laws at the time that Mulcair did the very same thing.... And here I thought that this was about ethics or that fraud ten years ago is the same as fraud today

it is, seems though we are just beginning to understand that we might have the power to change things ... also until recently I think people actually believed that once someone rose high enough they were smarter, more important and more entitled than the average individual, now we don't think like that any more

just because I voted him in doesn't mean I will again

Being a bald-faced liar is an absolutely necessary trait for a PM.

Need I mention Chretin, Mulroney, Trudeau?

no but he's right in there with them just in case you are missing that piece

 

[captain morgan]

it is, seems though we are just beginning to understand that we might have the power to change things ... also until recently I think people actually believed that once someone rose high enough they were smarter, more important and more entitled than the average individual, now we don't think like that any more

I think that's it's fair to say that 'we' have known (or strongly suspected) that this has been the case ever since you and I were old enough to understand

The simple fact that these azzholes vote in Parliament for their own compensation packages is proof-positive of your above sentiment... Fact is; we (as the electorate) are the only ones to blame.. We've let this happen and rather than demand something be done, we piss and moan about the speeding train that is coming down the tracks that we are standing on

no but he's right in there with them just in case you are missing that piece

I can list Harper along with every single PM we have had in Canada if you prefer

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course not, that would go against the narrative that Conservatives are evil incarnate .

That part is already done you should be thinking about reincarnation. With Duffy hanging around your spiritual/political necks

. REJOICE, THE SENATE HAS BEEN REFORMED

 

[FiveParadox]

"Stephen Harper shouldn't have to act with integrity, since other prime ministers haven't."

"Stephen Harper can have a few scandals, because Sponsorship Scandal."

"The Conservative Government doesn't have to act honestly, because Sponsorship Scandal."

Raise the bar, folks. Seriously.

As to the question of senator and MP compensation...

As counter-intuitive as it may sound, I actually acknowledge that the most effective system of determining the rules for compensation is that the Upper and Lower Houses, themselves, make those decisions. In order to ensure that the privileges of both Houses are maintained -- which is absolutely critical in the effective operation of a parliamentary democracy -- these Houses cannot be forced to negotiate with some outside or third party in those determinations.

 

[pgs]

Problem is, is it acceptable to keep a bald faced liar in the Prime Minster's Office, and if so we have come down a long way Canada, if it okay for our PM to lie and deceie thepublic at every turn. How can he be trusted with the public's purse?

Yup how many elections did mister Pepper pepper is something I put in my soup, win. You would still trust him with the public purse dispite the evidence of brown bags of money .

 

[captain morgan]

"Stephen Harper shouldn't have to act with integrity, since other prime ministers haven't."

"Stephen Harper can have a few scandals, because Sponsorship Scandal."

"The Conservative Government doesn't have to act honestly, because Sponsorship Scandal."

Raise the bar, folks. Seriously.

... Where were you when thousands of brown paper bags with cash were being passed about?

Getting all high and mighty about these ongoing abuses only when the party you oppose is in power is disingenuous.

As to the question of senator and MP compensation..

As counter-intuitive as it may sound, I actually acknowledge that the most effective system of determining the rules for compensation is that the Upper and Lower Houses, themselves, make those decisions. In order to ensure that the privileges of both Houses are maintained -- which is absolutely critical in the effective operation of a parliamentary democracy -- these Houses cannot be forced to negotiate with some outside or third party in those determinations.

The Singapore model is far superior... Those public service members that excel make tons of money, and if they fail, they get very low compensation.

Truly a pay-for-performance system

 

[pgs]

That part is already done you should be thinking about reincarnation. With Duffy hanging around your spiritual/political necks

. REJOICE, THE SENATE HAS BEEN REFORMED

Duffy is the same as any other Dingwall entittled to his entittlments . Pigs at the trough .

 

[gerryh]

"Stephen Harper shouldn't have to act with integrity, since other prime ministers haven't."

"Stephen Harper can have a few scandals, because Sponsorship Scandal."

"The Conservative Government doesn't have to act honestly, because Sponsorship Scandal."

Raise the bar, folks. Seriously.

As to the question of senator and MP compensation...

As counter-intuitive as it may sound, I actually acknowledge that the most effective system of determining the rules for compensation is that the Upper and Lower Houses, themselves, make those decisions. In order to ensure that the privileges of both Houses are maintained -- which is absolutely critical in the effective operation of a parliamentary democracy -- these Houses cannot be forced to negotiate with some outside or third party in those determinations.

bout friggin time you got your a$$ back in here..... now nail it down to that seat and stay the fu ck put!