Also, I believe our emergency rooms still treat drug addicts who overdose or cause health issues to themselves. Hard to set a precident to deny care for somebody having too many cheeseburgers while we service the drug addicts.
Plan to deny care to obese patients/smokers put on hold
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Yes and no......................Doctors prescribe drugs, I'm not sure they prescribe too many cheeseburgers.
Without the burgers there would be fewer visits to the Dr. They are paid by the hour, need I say more??
Yes and no......................Doctors prescribe drugs, I'm not sure they prescribe too many cheeseburgers.
They treat addicts who O/D on the street. In most cases, they got prescribed nothing. Yet they go to an ER and get treatment. You must be in a dream world to assume the only people abusing drugs are doing so under the care of a physician.
So you think the doctor should treat the symptoms and not address the cause of the illness.
The doctor must help. It's the legislature 's job to make it less easily accessible.
I think if a patient is not willing to make an effort to stop smoking if he can't catch his damn breath then a doctor has no recourse but to say, I can't help you"
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There's a difference between refusing to help and being unable to help.
Do I blame the addict? Partly. But I blame the seller too who knows he's selling an addictive substance.
In some respects, the producer, distributer and promoter are even more to blame. They know what they are selling.
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Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
—Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.
Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
—Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.
The doctor can address what he wants. The patient in a free society is free to take the advice of the physician or not. Failure to follow advise should not preclude medical care unless following the advice is a pre-requisite of the next step (example: transplants. Since there is a waiting list people not following doctor's advise would move one down the list -- if there was no waiting list and ample supply of organs, then it should not).
Depends- Burgers are excellent if lean meat and lots of onions are used!
hah
don't forget ketchup
Ketchup as a vegetable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup_as_a_vegetable
I just ignored my Doctor's advice on treatment on two major counts, but I totally accepted her Diagnostics
Now, they want to know how I just did what I did
You have to be PRO active with your health
( yes, I quit smoking on my own years ago because it sucks...and it did help save my life recently)
haha, sorry to disappoint...
I would not give up my GP for love, nor money
It is WE got the job done
Now, they want to know how I just did what I did
You have to be PRO active with your health
( yes, I quit smoking on my own years ago because it sucks...and it did help save my life recently)
haha, sorry to disappoint...
I would not give up my GP for love, nor money
It is WE got the job done
Absolutely- About 20% of our population doesn't have family doctor because all the available ones are tied up treating patients.
Not people who won't follow his instructions, with the exception of extending their life for 5 minutes when they finally do collapse.
Nice graphs. I see Cuba is holding steady.
My friend's mom passed on years ago from lung cancer and was a lifelong smoker. At her eulogy her daughter said that her mother told her (after she was diagnosed) that she wished every smoker could be told once by the doctor that they have lung cancer and they would never have another cigarette.