Philippine President Mocks Trudeau

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Good. I would be extremely disappointed in Duterte praised Trudeau. That is exactly the response a democratic leader in Canada should hope for from a murderous brute like the Philippine president.
 

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Philippines president questions whether Trudeau understands history, politics

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte revived attacks on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Tuesday over a helicopter deal that he cancelled himself earlier this year.
Duterte called off plans to buy 16 helicopters from Canada in February after news that the prime minister was reviewing the deal over human rights concerns.
The agreement stipulated by the Trudeau government for the $233-million deal said they could not be used for combat.
READ MORE: Rodrigo Duterte proposes kill bounty on rebels to decrease war costs
In February, Duterte offered a nearly $500 bounty for each communist rebel killed by government forces to save on anti-insurgency costs and said insurgents are easier to hit than birds because they have bigger heads.
During a lengthy speech in the country's Cebu city on Tuesday, Duterte slammed Trudeau for what he called "delays" in the deal, and said he doesn't understand the "history of the world and geopolitics."
"So they [Canadian government] are delaying the chopper deal. Why? 'You will use it against your own citizens.' For God's sake, Mr. Trudeau, my own citizens are rebelling against us, killing my soldiers and policemen and civilians," Duterte said.
He then questioned whether Trudeau should be prime minister.
"And I cannot use the helicopter because they are citizens, but they are out to overthrow my government. If you cannot understand, you should not be there in that mighty post of yours because you do not know the history of the world and geopolitics."
Duterte added that his government wanted to carry on with the helicopter deal, but Trudeau insisted on "pretending to be peaceful."
READ MORE: Philippines’ Duterte axes Canadian helicopter deal, admits he wanted them to ‘finish off’ rebels
"We gave Canada [a contract] for attack helicopters. Then when they're about to be delivered, this Trudeau wanted to be corny and pretended to be peaceful and all that."
"This is a troubled world. It has always been a troubled world ever since," he told the crowd of local government leaders.
In an email to Global News, a spokesman for Global Affairs Canada said the government continues to find Duterte's statements on helicopters "deeply troubling."

"The statements made (earlier this year) by the Filipino government about the end use of what were intended to be civilian aircraft were then and remain deeply troubling," Joseph Pickerill, director of communications at the Office of the Minister for International Trade Diversification, wrote.
"Human rights are an integral part of our trade agenda and launching a review of the proposed helicopter deal was the right thing to do. We will continue to support and defend our values, our workers and the world-class products they produce each and every day," the statement added.
The helicopter deal has been a source of controversy between the two countries for some time.
Also in February, Duterte said he wanted to use the helicopters to "finish off" those who pose threats to his leadership.
“I’m buying helicopters because I want to finish them off,” said Duterte, referring to Muslim and communist rebels along with Islamic militants in the country’s volatile south.
The Canadian government initially defended the controversial deal, which was facilitated by Canadian Commercial Corp., saying the machines would only be used for disaster relief and search-and-rescue missions.
But a senior officer in the Philippines military, which has been accused of committing human rights abuses in its war with local terrorists and rebels, soon after admitted they would be used for internal security operations.
This isn't the first time Duterte has targeted Trudeau for voicing human rights concerns.
Last November, Duterte attacked Trudeau at the end of a summit of Asian and Western nations for raising questions about his war on drugs.
“I said I will not explain. It is a personal and official insult,” the Philippines president said, without naming Trudeau specifically.
“I only answer to the Filipino. I will not answer to any other bulls**t, especially foreigners. Lay off.”

Like I thought over the Helicopter deal
 

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If we're going to be in the armamemt business (and we are) we're going to end up selling them to some pretty odious regimes like Duarte's or the Saudis. It comes with the territory. You you want jobs or do you want moral high ground?
 

White_Unifier

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If we're going to be in the armamemt business (and we are) we're going to end up selling them to some pretty odious regimes like Duarte's or the Saudis. It comes with the territory. You you want jobs or do you want moral high ground?

There are always other businesses we can get into, but I do see a catch-22. If I'm an armaments manufacturer and I'm going to spend massive sums of money on manufacturing infrastructure to build my product, then I want economies of scale. Let's say for the sake of argument that Canada has a law allowing me to sell only to allied states whereas another NATO-allied state would allow me to sell to anyone, obviously I'll open shop there instead.

One solution would be for NATO itself to establish a rule that all allied states must adopt a policy allowing armaments manufacturers within their territories to sell only to other allied states and to refuse the purchase of non-NATO armaments while still allowing non-NATO manufacturers to set up a branch plant in a NATO-state so as to sell within the NATO armaments trading block. I'm pro-free-trade, but clearly a case can be made to exempt the armaments industry.
 

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How about NATO turn itself in for the various war crimes committed just since 1991 and the 1st Gulf War. If they are found not guilty so be it. Rather than manufacture and sell why not make it a rule the munitions must be used by the country that produces them without using any proxy army. Let the world see our true face.
 

Curious Cdn

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There are always other businesses we can get into, but I do see a catch-22. If I'm an armaments manufacturer and I'm going to spend massive sums of money on manufacturing infrastructure to build my product, then I want economies of scale. Let's say for the sake of argument that Canada has a law allowing me to sell only to allied states whereas another NATO-allied state would allow me to sell to anyone, obviously I'll open shop there instead.

One solution would be for NATO itself to establish a rule that all allied states must adopt a policy allowing armaments manufacturers within their territories to sell only to other allied states and to refuse the purchase of non-NATO armaments while still allowing non-NATO manufacturers to set up a branch plant in a NATO-state so as to sell within the NATO armaments trading block. I'm pro-free-trade, but clearly a case can be made to exempt the armaments industry.

When we were building our Patrol Frigates a couple of decades back, the design was short-listed by the Saudis to supply them a couple of ships (!). We didn't get the contract but it would have kicked a couple of hundred million into the program and ultimately would have saved the Canadian taxpayer a bit of change. If something like that happened again, we'd go for it again without any debate at all about the immorality of selling an advanced weapon system into a volatile region to a thugocracy. Money won't talk. It will scream.
 

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How about NATO turn itself in for the various war crimes committed just since 1991 and the 1st Gulf War. If they are found not guilty so be it. Rather than manufacture and sell why not make it a rule the munitions must be used by the country that produces them without using any proxy army. Let the world see our true face.

Are you sure you meant to say NATO
 

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Philippines president questions whether Trudeau understands history, politics

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte revived attacks on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Tuesday over a helicopter deal that he cancelled himself earlier this year.
Duterte called off plans to buy 16 helicopters from Canada in February after news that the prime minister was reviewing the deal over human rights concerns.
The agreement stipulated by the Trudeau government for the $233-million deal said they could not be used for combat.
READ MORE: Rodrigo Duterte proposes kill bounty on rebels to decrease war costs
In February, Duterte offered a nearly $500 bounty for each communist rebel killed by government forces to save on anti-insurgency costs and said insurgents are easier to hit than birds because they have bigger heads.
During a lengthy speech in the country's Cebu city on Tuesday, Duterte slammed Trudeau for what he called "delays" in the deal, and said he doesn't understand the "history of the world and geopolitics."
"So they [Canadian government] are delaying the chopper deal. Why? 'You will use it against your own citizens.' For God's sake, Mr. Trudeau, my own citizens are rebelling against us, killing my soldiers and policemen and civilians," Duterte said.
He then questioned whether Trudeau should be prime minister.
"And I cannot use the helicopter because they are citizens, but they are out to overthrow my government. If you cannot understand, you should not be there in that mighty post of yours because you do not know the history of the world and geopolitics."
Duterte added that his government wanted to carry on with the helicopter deal, but Trudeau insisted on "pretending to be peaceful."
READ MORE: Philippines’ Duterte axes Canadian helicopter deal, admits he wanted them to ‘finish off’ rebels
"We gave Canada [a contract] for attack helicopters. Then when they're about to be delivered, this Trudeau wanted to be corny and pretended to be peaceful and all that."
"This is a troubled world. It has always been a troubled world ever since," he told the crowd of local government leaders.
In an email to Global News, a spokesman for Global Affairs Canada said the government continues to find Duterte's statements on helicopters "deeply troubling."

"The statements made (earlier this year) by the Filipino government about the end use of what were intended to be civilian aircraft were then and remain deeply troubling," Joseph Pickerill, director of communications at the Office of the Minister for International Trade Diversification, wrote.
"Human rights are an integral part of our trade agenda and launching a review of the proposed helicopter deal was the right thing to do. We will continue to support and defend our values, our workers and the world-class products they produce each and every day," the statement added.
The helicopter deal has been a source of controversy between the two countries for some time.
Also in February, Duterte said he wanted to use the helicopters to "finish off" those who pose threats to his leadership.
“I’m buying helicopters because I want to finish them off,” said Duterte, referring to Muslim and communist rebels along with Islamic militants in the country’s volatile south.
The Canadian government initially defended the controversial deal, which was facilitated by Canadian Commercial Corp., saying the machines would only be used for disaster relief and search-and-rescue missions.
But a senior officer in the Philippines military, which has been accused of committing human rights abuses in its war with local terrorists and rebels, soon after admitted they would be used for internal security operations.
This isn't the first time Duterte has targeted Trudeau for voicing human rights concerns.
Last November, Duterte attacked Trudeau at the end of a summit of Asian and Western nations for raising questions about his war on drugs.
“I said I will not explain. It is a personal and official insult,” the Philippines president said, without naming Trudeau specifically.
“I only answer to the Filipino. I will not answer to any other bulls**t, especially foreigners. Lay off.”

Like I thought over the Helicopter deal

There is little Trudeau understands beyond his bubble.

He is the laughingstock of the world and is not respected at all.

What percentage of the vote did he get anyhow?
 

darkbeaver

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The rightards love him. They always were fond of governments murdering citizens.


Is that a crime in the USA?

 

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Is JT looking at Russia for a Blackhole Sub as the only navy we need, coast to coast coverage in one package.