Patrick Brown Resigns as Ontario's PC Leader

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It seems like the easy way to get rid of a politician or anyone else who you do not like.

Personally, I do not like Patrick Brown, but this kind of allegation is shameful. I hope that if these accusations are proven false, the individuals so far unnamed (ain't that a kicker?) will be sued into the stone age.

Moving forward, the need for a new or interim leader just increased the PC's chances of election. A leader can be chosen who is more attractive to PCs and others in Ontario.

Only time will tell. For PCs, this has happened early enough that any fallout will be old news by the time the election rolls around

Patrick Brown’s downfall an affront to fairness

Patrick Brown is a man ruined, on the word of two anonymous complainants whose allegations have been accepted as facts, writes Rosie DiManno.

It’s not a magnifying glass. It’s an ice pick.

The sweeping arc and thrust of sexual misconduct allegations, untested and unchallenged. Uncharged, need one add. Which apparently doesn’t matter a fig in these caustic accusatory times.

Throw in an “alleged” here and there — the media’s doing, not the politicians who rushed to the podium on Thursday — and, hey, all fine. Let’s move on to the instant repudiation, the character evisceration, the career annihilation.

Another brick in the wall for women’s empowerment? Another brick through the window of basic fairness, I’d say, and the fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Patrick Brown isn’t Harvey Weinstein or Louis C.K. Shockwaves emanating from Queen’s Park strongly suggest an entire community that had not heard even whispers about inappropriate sexual behaviour in the now ex-leader of the provincial Conservative party’s past. The slag came out of nowhere, about a man who’s been in the public eye for nearly two decades.

To be perfectly hard-boiled about this: where is the sexual misconduct, exactly?

Read more:

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...k-brown-denies-allegations-of-misconduct.html

and here.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pat...-women-resigns-as-ontario-pc-leader-1.3774686
 

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I think that this is going to bite the Wynne Liberals in the ass, one way or another.
 

DaSleeper

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Just wait until some woman comes forward and said Wynn touched her.
With the progressives, they would try to vote her in for another term.....
Talking about prgressives....
Don't tell Mentalfloss but I heard on TV this morning that one of the ladies who claims to have been molested is to be a guest on "The social" this afternoon...:wink::wink:
That's the Canadian version of "The View"......Shhhhh!
 

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Apparently some think that this will bring the "Renaissance" of the conservative party that 3 months ago Brown was supposed to be bringing.

He has been roymoored.
 

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I think that this is going to bite the Wynne Liberals in the ass, one way or another.
If you followed the stories it seems the leak came from someone in the PC's who didn't like him. If the Libs did this they would have been pretty stupid to try and pull it off now and not a month or so before the election......


https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...k-browns-downfall-an-affront-to-fairness.html


https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...-and-died-by-the-court-of-public-opinion.html
 

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Kind of convenient that this did not occur during his run for PC leader, or the two years before the election? It’s also very nice that instead of going to the police they went to the court of public opinion. If you want to accuse someone of this, with zero evidence and without going to the police first, then the media should be publishing the accuser’s name. Would be interesting to see what kind of Liberal or left leaning ties these women have
 

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Opinion piece

Patrick Brown's downfall an affront to fairness

It’s not a magnifying glass. It’s an ice pick.
The sweeping arc and thrust of sexual misconduct allegations, untested and unchallenged. Uncharged, need one add. Which apparently doesn’t matter a fig in these caustic accusatory times.
Throw in an “alleged” here and there — the media’s doing, not the politicians who rushed to the podium on Thursday — and, hey, all fine. Let’s move on to the instant repudiation, the character evisceration, the career annihilation.
Another brick in the wall for women’s empowerment? Another brick through the window of basic fairness, I’d say, and the fundamental principle of innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Patrick Brown isn’t Harvey Weinstein or Louis C.K. Shockwaves emanating from Queen’s Park strongly suggest an entire community that had not heard even whispers about inappropriate sexual behaviour in the now ex-leader of the provincial Conservative party’s past. The slag came out of nowhere, about a man who’s been in the public eye for nearly two decades.
To be perfectly hard-boiled about this: where is the sexual misconduct, exactly?
Because what I’m seeing is sexual malice. Or political malice if the stunning downfall of Brown, who seemed on the verge of becoming Ontario’s next premier, has been manipulated by masters of dark political arts — a conspiracy theory loudly promoted on social media, for what’s that worth. I don’t give it much worth, actually, in the absence of any evidence — a concept, evidence, which has been woefully denigrated by the Uzi #MeToo movement splatter. But the timing, five months before a provincial election, is suspicious, arising from allegations that stretch back a decade.
I don’t know Patrick Brown. I don’t know if he’s a wolf. I don’t know if he’s a man of dubious or admirable repute. And I am most emphatically not a Conservative. Although if I were a Tory, I’d hope to have bigger balls than anything that’s been demonstrated over the past 36 hours.
Brown is a man ruined, on the word of two anonymous complainants whose allegations have been accepted as prima facie facts, their assertions bathed in the glow of authenticity and virtue.
It is not brave to speak from the shadows. It is not courageous to vilify anybody from within bubble-wrapped camouflage. Alleged victims of sexual crime are never identified in court unless they explicitly seek to make their names public. But we’re not in the courts, only the court of public opinion and I’m not sure how that can be accurately measured when the breaking news is barely one step ahead of the mushroom cloud fallout.
There is arguably no crime here, even if every word, every detail, is accepted as unvarnished truth.
These stories, as delivered to CTV and broadcast Wednesday evening — a short time after an ashen, dishevelled Brown appeared at a hastily arranged news conference and a couple of hours before he resigned as leader of the Conservative party, via a middle-of-the-night statement — do not remotely rise to the level of criminality.
The accusations may be investigated by police. The head of Toronto’s sexual assault unit did not return my call Thursday. Instead, spokesperson Meaghan Gray said in an email: “We can’t make that determination based on reports in the media. If anyone makes a complaint we would investigate and charge, if appropriate. If they don’t want to report the incident to police they can seek support from one of the many organizations in the community.”
 

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Kind of convenient that this did not occur during his run for PC leader, or the two years before the election?

Have you been following the news lately? Apparently this is now a thing.
 

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Have you been following the news lately? Apparently this is now a thing.

Yeah, I know when people leave the comfort of their Facebook accounts, Tinder, Instagram, CanadianContent.. they don't know how to socialize in real life..

A tap on a shoulder, or a comment; "you have a nice blouse on today" is grounds for sexual abuse.

Hey, but Trump can "Grab'em by the Pussy" and they vote him in.

What a F*cked up world we live in..
 

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Yeah, I know when people leave the comfort of their Facebook accounts, Tinder, Instagram, CanadianContent.. they don't know how to socialize in real life..

A tap on a shoulder, or a comment; "you have a nice blouse on today" is grounds for sexual abuse.

Hey, but Trump can "Grab'em by the Pussy" and they vote him in.

What a F*cked up world we live in..
Ya I don't actually think that is the case.

Whatever the allegations were on this guy the entire Ontario conservative caucus voted to shit can him. Obviously we are talking about a large group of rightie douche bags who would rent their mom out as whore if they thought it would get them a vote or two. So I am inclined to think that in this case the allegations are pretty solid.
 

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Shhh. Flossy, you don't know the details of the case, but you have an opinion anyway? Just shush. Try and learn about a topic before you post nonsense.
 

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Murphy

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Some PCs were concerned with Brown and felt something needed to be done. I hope this wasn't their solution.

A bit player - the Trillium Party - has already started with emails. Brown is bleeding out and the other politicians are seizing the opprtunity.

Ah, politics.
 

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For some reason, you send out a Christian Heritage party vibe. No matter. Reading is your friend. Google the following:

Christian Heritage Party
Trillium Party
The Jesuits
 

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If that gets you or anyone else reading, I've won.

Post one less thing. Google one more article. It's win-win!
 

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/us/larry-nassar-investigation-fallout-march/index.html

here is an interesting story about the people who are level two sex abusers - those who knew and in many cases did something to prevent Walter's due process from occurring.

this is the sort of thing that really needs to happen in order to eliminate this crime. People must be well aware that sex abuse enablers get penalized. Sine the the concepts of basic right and wrong are seemingly beyond them, self interest must be firmly established.