I was wondering about that too....
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Must be ghosts:smile:
Patricia O'Byrne kept in jail
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I was wondering about that too....
Seen a post get best reply less than 5 min. after beeing posted.
Must be ghosts:smile:
I would ABSOLUTELY agree with that................................as long as it's someone else's child. :lol:
Nice sentiment.... Tell that gag to the father, I'm certain that he'll be as fun-loving and cavalier about the issue as you
I believe criminal is defined as somebody who breaks the law. She qualifies.
But I was refering to your more general stance of not sending criminals to prison.
I guess 99% of us would probably qualify then. :lol:
Is this another one of those cases of "innocent (wink wink nudge nudge) until proven guilty"? :lol:
I think before everyone jumps to conclusions maybe we want to find out WHAT led to this situation in the first place. There is a third person in this that perhaps hasn't been heard from yet! :smile:
But obviously if caught, face whatever sentence or fine is imposed (assuming we are found guilty).
The judge obviously considered this against the flight risk before granting or denying bail.
The judge made his bail decision with access to all relivant information. Once she gets to trial, the judge/jury will make their decision based upon evidence presented. Obviously the court of public opinion means little and our conclusions may provide interesting message board foder but little more.
Judges like everyone else are human and make wrong decisions. Perhaps the original decision in this case was also wrong! I'm just saying the crime should be proven beyond reasonable doubt before she is incarcerated.
:lol:Good logic there:lol:.. Why, it's commonly held that all innocent people {{:lol:}} always hide for 20 years to earn the money to hire Perry Mason to solve the dastardly case!:lol::lol:
:icon_smile:You have decided to jump to your own conclusions as well :lol:.... I see that the choice that this woman
lol made to run from the law for all these years has no affect on your opinion... Best give her another 20 years to make her case, eh?:lol::lol:
That's contrary to human nature, very few professional person will do anything that to put their colleague in a bad light!
Yep, with 50 years of experience with them that's what I've found..............a lot of them are full of sh*t! :lol:
:lol:Good logic there:lol:.. Why, it's commonly held that all innocent people {{:lol:}} always hide for 20 years to earn the money to hire Perry Mason to solve the dastardly case!:lol::lol:
:icon_smile:You have decided to jump to your own conclusions as well :lol:.... I see that the choice that this woman
I'm not excusing her................I just don't think she should be locked up in jail before we know all the facts.
Al lot of people fro a lot of walks of life are full of sh*t.. I'm kinda curious about how extensive your experience has been in dealing with 'professionals'.
Good God man! She's proven herself a flight risk quite clearly. Don't you think that their family might like a bit of closure on this? They have waited 20 years so far.
Everything from judges and preachers to realtors and car salesmen.......................not all of them but enough to cast doubt. :lol:
I would not call car salesmen professional. Obviously they would make any group you include them in quite slimy.
This is normally what happens unless there is reason to believe that she is a flight risk. There is. She is being held until her trial. Judge made that call and that is how it works. They don't ask the opinion of the message boards and make sure the general public knows all the facts.
So she is not serving time for her crime. She is being held because she is a flight risk.
Now if/when she is found guilty, they will credit this time against her sentence so she will get credit. And as I said before, I do not anticipate a heavy sentence in this case ... maybe even just 'time served' and probation.
What so many people are forgetting is that people such as this NEED TO BE AN EXAMPLE TO OTHERS NOT TO ABDUCT CHILDREN.
I went through this myself, by thankfully my ex was located in 3 months, and I got my kids back. You have no idea the pain this causes, and how the kidnapper will work to destroy any feelings the child has for their other parent.
I hope they give this woman the maximum.
I went through this myself, by thankfully my ex was located in 3 months, and I got my kids back. You have no idea the pain this causes, and how the kidnapper will work to destroy any feelings the child has for their other parent.
I hope they give this woman the maximum.
Are we absolutely sure that the husband abided by his terms of the arrangement? :smile:
Some are, some aren't! Are they different from other salesmen or is this just a misnomer that has been passed down through the ages?
I would imagine the law will order her to jail, and I understand where you're coming from, BUT I also
have deep understanding of how awful it must have been for the dad for the last 20 years.
That can't be dismissed as trivial, it is serious, very serious.
I also can't believe that the dad would have been given custody for something trivial either, the
courts don't usually award custody to the father 'easily'.
But it would be helpful to know exactly what did happen long ago, and why he was given custody, and what
lengths he went to find her during all this time. I know that has nothing to do with the law, I am
curious though, and would like to know for myself.
Has the daughter spoken to anyone on this matter, so that we know how she feels about this right now?
I haven't read anything about this, so I know 'nutting'.
JLM, if she doesn't serve time for this, what do you suggest, because anything else would be nothing,
and they have to do something, or the she will just walk away as though she did nothing wrong.
I wonder if a statement from the daughter in court would have any affect on the outcome.