Pass the Freak Dijon Mustard Please
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I'll have to agree with that whole heartedly.
Would be a nice thing to see, the reintroduction of the family farm and the decrease in the necessity of the over immunized live stock and agro biz.
That was an awesome read Nugg, thanx.
Reminiscent of the French documentary I watched not to long ago on Monsanto. "The World According to Monsanto. Which was banned in the US, go figure.""
Thx, Bear. The one you mentioned is the one I was trying to find.
Scary.
Reminiscent of the French documentary I watched not to long ago on Monsanto. "The World According to Monsanto. Which was banned in the US, go figure.""
Thx, Bear. The one you mentioned is the one I was trying to find.
Scary.
Very scary stuff...
I did find this feel good story from Sask. though...
Local seed vs big guns
Seems if you can keep the legal bills going, you may actually be able to beat Monsanto at their own game. They had to pay to clean up and decontaminate Schmeiser's fields of their seeds.
I hope we see more seed savers and less dependence on GM seeds in the future. I hope some of the lessons being tought here are heeded.
I beg to differ. We grow our own veggies & fruit for the most part and we do it from unmodified seed (you can find it on the net and it has COG's, GOCA's, or someone else's seal of approval).
Bull shyte. I sell Gravenstein apples from my trees, which either are from the early 1900s or else trees that have been grown from the old ones. Some of them are older than the heads of companies modifying stuff.
Same thing about my cherry trees, plum trees, etc. There are too many people around still raising old species (plants AND animals) for the market to be absolutely full of modified foods.
Ton, some people just don't like the idea of some company (companies) with its main focus on bottom line forcing them to eat what the company wants. This house contains some of those types of people. We are not on this planet to help some company playing god with food get rich.
Prove to me that the genetically modified potato/beef is chemically different from the regular potato/beef
Then prove to me that if I eat it I will die. I'd be willing to take my chances.
So far I had no chance to take my own chances. But if I had to trust anyone I would much rather trust Monsanto than some pinko, politically correct, starvation promoting, loving liberal.
Then prove to me that if I eat it I will die. I'd be willing to take my chances.
So far I had no chance to take my own chances. But if I had to trust anyone I would much rather trust Monsanto than some pinko, politically correct, starvation promoting, loving liberal.
lol Some people just have no idea what the consequences of genetic engineering can do.
Looking Back at Genetic Engineering's First Deadly Disaster: L-tryptophan
Looking Back at Genetic Engineering's First Deadly Disaster: L-tryptophan
Help yourself, you can test it for the rest of us. Trust Monsanto! My my but you are an innocent child aren't you.
Not true. The yields are only marginally smaller in some cases, over all the difference is negligible. About 99% of GM crops are related to insect resistance and herbicide tolerance.
Today, over 60% of the world uses non-irrigated cropping systems. Irrigation is what gives industrialized cropping it's high yields. So, with water supplies moving in the opposite direction to human growth, how do you expect to be able to increase yields in the largest half of human agricultural production? I'm not making the case that GM does that now, I'm saying that maybe it could.
Right. This is true regardless of whether you're talking about traditional or biotech crops.
The green revolution gave Earth the capacity to feed almost 1 billion more people. That might be enough if developed nations could be more efficient.
My comment about particle accelerators was aimed more at the loons who thought a black hole was imminent. I suppose I could use your fervent denial of what has been observed as another example of what is wrong with these issues.
:lol: Says the lord of proselytization for all things conspiracy here at CC.
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I think if we just didn't let them patent the genes (or chemicals for that matter), the problem would solve itself.
Patenting genes strikes me like patenting the number 2. I know these people want a return on their investment, but still.
Patenting genes strikes me like patenting the number 2. I know these people want a return on their investment, but still.
Heavy irrigation and heavy fertilization and high pesticide use coupled with hugh fuel costs all to provide signifigantly less nutritious food in addition to the destruction of sustainable agriculture. Everybody that was here before the so called green revolution fed themselves Tonnington, there was nothing in it for the people it was all for money. Developement along the industrial agriculture lines is very destructive very expensive all for poor quality suspect food. The rural types were needed in the factories and so they were driven from the lands by the machine.
Efficiencies are appreciated but the efficiency sought by the shareholders and those who need to eat are two distinctly different things. And now a word about erosion poor or no crop rotation and near complete dependence on hydro-carbons.
Agriculture is far too important to leave in the hands of investors and bankers.
Hey, when herbicide won't kill it maybe you shouldn't eat it.
We the eaters must move to no-till methods and water and soil conservation in general and suspend the reliance on chemical agents. Smaller is better, of every ten households one should be a farm. These methods have been proven to produce the yields and the nutrition, just because something that looks like a beautiful tomatoe can exist in your icebox for months, intact, does not mean it is a tomatoe, they used to rot because there was life in them. You do not have to take my word for it but we are beginning to see a true green revolution finally take off, people are way past tired of junk food and plastic wrap, it is a necessity of life and everyone of us just need to dwell on that far more than we do now, when the curve for food prices goes verticle in a few months we will understand. You got brains, fix it for us will you.:smile:
"Help yourself, you can test it for the rest of us. Trust Monsanto! My my but you are an innocent child aren't you."
A while back we lived next to a cattle farm. Our water came from a well.
Just for curiousity we had the water tested. The test came back indicating that both my wife and I have been dead for several years, killed by E-coli. Tested second time, same results.
Needless to say, our health suffered no ill effects from the water declared unpotable by "authorities". But just to be sure, we installed ultra-violet light on our water line.
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
A potato is a potato is a potato. Bring it on. If you don't like it or you are scared ****less, starve!
A while back we lived next to a cattle farm. Our water came from a well.
Just for curiousity we had the water tested. The test came back indicating that both my wife and I have been dead for several years, killed by E-coli. Tested second time, same results.
Needless to say, our health suffered no ill effects from the water declared unpotable by "authorities". But just to be sure, we installed ultra-violet light on our water line.
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
A potato is a potato is a potato. Bring it on. If you don't like it or you are scared ****less, starve!
Good general health can ward off e-coli. If we could buy dogturds made to look like potatoes would you eat them? I am a swineherd and part time chicken rancher and I grows a lot of my own veggies, it's the taste Yukon, try it, tastes like old time meat, it has got flavour it is loaded with goodies not the white crap sold in the supermarkets, so I can tell you that a potatoe is not just a potatoe, all potatoes are not created equal. If you're not frightened well I suppose repeating the old line like "where fools rush in" won't sway your thinking eh. I'm only afraid of lima beans.:smile:
Funny, I'm nothing like any of those things and you don't trust me, must be cuz I'm 'Injun'...;-)
Nice one LG.
lol...I Salmon and Trout fish, I tie my own roe, have for years. SCB finally got into the mix and joined us. Got sick as a dog. Salmonella poisoning. Funny how me and the boys didn't get sick, Doc said it had to do with our bodies developing an immunity to it because we've been consuming it in small doses for so long.
Funny how the human body works.
Funny how even when the evidence is put in front of some people, they're to stupid to catch on...;-)