Palin steps down as governor of Alaska

[SirJosephPorter]

"Yukon, all safely dead and buried, I see. I assume you subscribe to the view that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."

SirJosephPorter, I was not the one who brought up the question. In his infinite liberal wisdom, JLM did. Conveniently forgetting that Nixon was also dead.

And PLEASE, DO NOT go putting words in my mouth about good/dead Democrats.

Maybe your vacation wasn't long enough for you to clear your mind.

OK Yukon, let me rephrase JLM’s question. If you don’t think that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, which of the living Democrats do you like?

Offhand I could rattle off several Republicans whom I regard favorably, Collin Powell, Senator Susan Collins, Olympia Snow (even Giuliani) being a few of them.

 

[ironsides]

To quote Frank Barone (the late Peter Boyle-Everybody Loves Raymond) a lot of you are sounding like a "bunch of Nancy's" Personal attacks should and are against the rules, or should be. Who really cares who said or did what, point is are you having fun. If not then it might be time to leave.

 

[JLM]

Ban you for what, Sir Joseph? All I heard so far was that you were the king of obtuse. I take that with a pinch of salt.
I was under the impression that in order to be booted, one has to screw with the forum rules.

S.J. is a pretty square shooter, although his and my ideologies are a little different- he NEVER swears or uses foul language to anyone, I DO when they piss me off too much.:lol::lol: Just keep in mind the ones who call him down have his I.Q. minus 100.

 

[ironsides]

Here is a graphic defination of what a Right Winger or Lefy Winger represent.


http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/

 

[YukonJack]

"OK Yukon, let me rephrase JLM’s question. If you don’t think that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, which of the living Democrats do you like?

Offhand I could rattle off several Republicans whom I regard favorably, Collin Powell, Senator Susan Collins, Olympia Snow (even Giuliani) being a few of them."

Typically, changing the subject is the last resort of a debater who has nothing left to offer.

But let me humour you: I have very high regard for liberals/Democrats like Bob Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Juan Williams; Lanny Davies and even some Democratic politicians who put the fate of their country ahead of party lines.

I notice that you only support those conservatives/Republicans who are notorious turncoasts. Surprised that you did not praise Arland Specter to high heaven.

 

[AnnaG]

Quite so, Anna. But many Trolls here find my arguments, my reasoning to be compelling, to be unanswerable. At least that is the impression I get. Rather than coming back at me with counterarguments, they come back with insults, with abusive language. You did say on another thread that you had some experience of that, so I suppose you know what I am talking about.

Trying to get somebody banned is an easy short cut to try to stifle the opposing argument. Anyway, I am just recounting what the Troll said in the red rep.

lol Yes. I've been here for a week and have figured out a couple of intolerant, abusive, and immature sorts.
I suspect that the mods and administrator(s) are more reasonable, so I wouldn't worry if I were you.
And I got a red thing, too. Also from some wuss who didn't leave an indication of identity. My supposition was that they couldn't debate me so they had a dose of sour grapes. It was funny.

 

[StrangeBrewed]

Here's a good story on the why she made the decision from > the NY Times

 

[AnnaG]

Here is a graphic defination of what a Right Winger or Lefy Winger represent.


http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/

That is a bit simplified, but accurate. Canada is an authoritarian oligarchy but democratically chooses which oligarchy it wants from two factions.
The USA, is a republic that chooses its rulers democratically also from two factions.

 

[AnnaG]

As far as right and left goes, here is a pretty accurate description:

Right Wing vs Left Wing: How to Define the Political Spectrum

 

[Ron in Regina]

Here's a good story on the why she made the decision from > the NY Times

Welcome to Canadian Content Forums StrangeBrewed!!!

When you're new here (your first 25 postings or so), if you have
a Link in your posting, a Moderator have to approve it first before
you see it. It's an anti-Spam thing. Anyway, Welcome Aboard!!!

Posts without Links will appear immeadiately.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

To quote Frank Barone (the late Peter Boyle-Everybody Loves Raymond) a lot of you are sounding like a "bunch of Nancy's" Personal attacks should and are against the rules, or should be. Who really cares who said or did what, point is are you having fun. If not then it might be time to leave.

My sentiments exactly, ironsides. We are usually on the opposite side of the fence, but here I totally agree with you. The day it stops being fun to participate here, I am out of here.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

S.J. is a pretty square shooter, although his and my ideologies are a little different- he NEVER swears or uses foul language to anyone, I DO when they piss me off too much.:lol::lol: Just keep in mind the ones who call him down have his I.Q. minus 100.

You are too kind JLM, but thank you.

 

[ironsides]

Now back to Sarah Palin. The NY Times story seems a little slanted against her. Reporters just writing what they want us to think. How the mighty Times has fallen. It is not "All the news that's fit to print anymore."

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Now back to Sarah Palin. The NY Times story seems a little slanted against her. Reporters just writing what they want us to think. How the mighty Times has fallen. It is not "All the news that's fit to print anymore."

Maybe so, ironsides. But Palin rubs many people the wrong way. She has great appeal for the Republican base, no question about that. But she will have to find a way of broadening her appeal if she is serious about running in 2012. At present she appears very much the lightweight, in spite of the respect and awe in which she is held by the base.

 

[Ron in Regina]

As far as right and left goes, here is a pretty accurate description:

Right Wing vs Left Wing: How to Define the Political Spectrum

This is my favorite description of the relevance of the Left/Right thing:

Well....something that looks very much like that anyhow...a while back
someone posted a Left/Right Political Spectrum Test. It was a whole
lot of fun, an eye opener in these Left/Right arguments.

 

[Ron in Regina]

OK...found it here: The Political Compass

I just howled as people shared the results of their tests. It was great! :lol::lol::lol:

 

[ironsides]

Maybe so, ironsides. But Palin rubs many people the wrong way. She has great appeal for the Republican base, no question about that. But she will have to find a way of broadening her appeal if she is serious about running in 2012. At present she appears very much the lightweight, in spite of the respect and awe in which she is held by the base.

I understand how she has become a target, based upon her association with Senator McCain. What ever base she had, eroded after she accepted the VP nomination, even her popularity in Alaska eroded. Can't help wonder how much of that was the Democrats taking advantage of a situation rather than her actually doing anything really wrong. She has over 3 years to get her act together, time will tell.

 

[Tonington]

This is my favorite description of the relevance of the Left/Right thing:

Well....something that looks very much like that anyhow...a while back
someone posted a Left/Right Political Spectrum Test. It was a whole
lot of fun, an eye opener in these Left/Right arguments.

I disagree. Tomatoes, lemons and grapefruit are very tasty. :lol: That diagram must have been produced by fascists!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I understand how she has become a target, based upon her association with Senator McCain. What ever base she had, eroded after she accepted the VP nomination, even her popularity in Alaska eroded. Can't help wonder how much of that was the Democrats taking advantage of a situation rather than her actually doing anything really wrong. She has over 3 years to get her act together, time will tell.

Democrats may be partly responsible for that ironsides, but isn’t that their job? That is how politics works. Democrats saw an opening, a vulnerability (especially after Katie Couric interviews) and they pounced. Republicans would have done the same in their place.

But a shrewd politician overcomes such negative barrage of attacks and comes out triumphant, look at Clinton. Republicans threw everything they had at him (including spending 100 million dollars of taxpayer’s money to investigate him and impeaching him on a purely political, partisan basis). Yet he was more than a match for them and left office with approval rating of 65%. Same applied to Reagan, the negative press coverage never bothered him.

That is what a seasoned, experience politician can do. Palin still has a lot to learn when it comes to politics.

 

[Walter]

Sarah has an op-ed piece in WaPo today; boy she's hot.

Sarah Palin - A 'Cap and Tax' Road to Economic Disaster