Palin in 2012

ironsides

Executive Branch Member
Feb 13, 2009
8,583
60
48
United States
So nothing, ironsides. But she justifiably got a lot of flak for her inane comment.

Ok, we can put an end to this.

Exact quote:

"Charlie GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

Sarah PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."




 

TenPenny

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 9, 2004
17,467
139
63
Location, Location
Ok, we can put an end to this.

Exact quote:

"Charlie GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

Sarah PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

I don't know why you think that would put an end to SJP's blatherings, I posted the quote four or five pages back, and he completely ignored it.
 

ironsides

Executive Branch Member
Feb 13, 2009
8,583
60
48
United States
Here I disagree with you, ironsides. Palin has a major following, about 30% Americans support her, think she will make a good president. And they don’t simply support her, they are wildly enthusiastic about her, in their eyes, she can do no wrong. In that 30% of the electorate she generates Reagan like emotion, perhaps inspires even stronger loyalty than Reagan ever did.

That constitutes a major following, it may well be enough to win her the nomination (since that 30% will be voting in the Republican primaries). General election of course is a different matter.

Wonder if that % of Republicans still holds today, your figures are from last July, and there is a big difference between 30% of Americans and 30% republicans.
 

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
Ok, we can put an end to this.

Exact quote:

"Charlie GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

Sarah PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

We are discussing here the interviews with Couric, ironsides. She did not bomb out quite as badly with Gibson, but by then the damage was done, her image as a flake was established.

Besides, Gibson asked her about the proximity of Alaska to Russia, in that case her answer was quite legitimate.

Couric asked her about foreign policy. To that she gave a vague, rambling answer and brought in the fact that you can see Russia from Alaska. That was a totally different thing.
 

ironsides

Executive Branch Member
Feb 13, 2009
8,583
60
48
United States
We are discussing here the interviews with Couric, ironsides. She did not bomb out quite as badly with Gibson, but by then the damage was done, her image as a flake was established.

Besides, Gibson asked her about the proximity of Alaska to Russia, in that case her answer was quite legitimate.

Couric asked her about foreign policy. To that she gave a vague, rambling answer and brought in the fact that you can see Russia from Alaska. That was a totally different thing.

Ok, here are those quotes, and your point being? I do not think anyone ever said she was experienced in foreign policy.

Sarah Palin Discusses Russia With Katie Couric
YouTube - Sarah Palin Discusses Russia With Katie Couric

Sarah Palin CBS Interview (Katie Couric)
YouTube - Sarah Palin CBS Interview (Katie Couric)

Sarah Palin interviews with Katie Couric - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

lone wolf

Grossly Underrated
Nov 25, 2006
32,493
212
63
In the bush near Sudbury
We are discussing here the interviews with Couric, ironsides. She did not bomb out quite as badly with Gibson, but by then the damage was done, her image as a flake was established.

Besides, Gibson asked her about the proximity of Alaska to Russia, in that case her answer was quite legitimate.

Couric asked her about foreign policy. To that she gave a vague, rambling answer and brought in the fact that you can see Russia from Alaska. That was a totally different thing.

So, in other words you're preaching on facts based only on things caught in the cobwebs in your mind.

It other words: Gossip
 

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
Ok, here are those quotes, and your point being? I do not think anyone ever said she was experienced in foreign policy.

Fair enough. But then why not say so in response to Couric? Why the rambling, long winded answer, including the fact that you can see Russian from Alaska?

If she had been honest, frank and explained that her experience is mainly in domestic matters, that she hopes to learn about foreign policy in her job of vice president (perhaps also pointing out that many vice presidents in the past have had no foreign policy experience), she probably would have endeared herself to American voters at large.

Instead, she gave a dishonest, rambling answer, and wowed only her acolytes (they would be wowed if she as much as opened her mouth anyway).
 

Walter

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 28, 2007
34,887
126
63
December 13, 2009
Palin on the Rise; Obama is Old News

By Jack Kelly

I'm sure a 6-year-old with a crayon could do something not unlike that," snarked White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs Tuesday.
The object of Mr. Gibbs' scorn was Gallup's tracking poll for the day before, which showed only 47 percent of respondents approve of the job President Barack Obama is doing, with 46 percent disapproving.
Perhaps Mr. Gibbs' skin was thin because this was the lowest ranking for a president at this point in his presidency since Gallup began conducting presidential approval polls in 1938.
Meanwhile, a CNN/Opinion Research Poll also released Monday indicated 46 percent of respondents have a favorable impression of Sarah Palin, while 46 percent have an unfavorable one.
The polls were not quite the same. Gallup asked people what they thought of the job Mr. Obama was doing, not whether or not they liked him.
Even with that caveat, though, the convergence between Mr. Obama and Ms. Palin is remarkable. There is no statistical difference between the one and the other.
This represents a substantial gain in public esteem for Ms. Palin since she resigned as governor of Alaska in July, and a substantial decline for Mr. Obama over the same period.
Sarah Palin's been on a roll since the publication of her autobiography last month. "Going Rogue" is already the second-biggest seller among nonfiction books in history (only Bill Clinton's 2004 autobiography, "My Life," sold more copies in the first month), and could be No. 1 before the end of her book tour, since her sales seem to be holding up better than his did.
The book tour itself is a cultural phenomenon. At each stop hundreds, often thousands, of people have waited hours, sometimes days, to meet her.
Could Barack Obama -- who now seems so last year -- inspire that kind of devotion today?
The turnabout in fortunes is all the more remarkable because no political figure in recent history has been subject to such vilification from our news media as Sarah Palin. No malicious rumor was too preposterous to report. No accomplishment was important enough to mention.
Meanwhile, no presidential candidate or president has received more favorable press coverage than Barack Obama.
"President Barack Obama has enjoyed substantially more positive media coverage than either Bill Clinton or George W. Bush during their first months in the White House," concluded a Pew Research study last May. Forty-two percent of stories in major newspapers and television news programs about Mr. Obama were favorable, compared to 22 percent for Mr. Bush and 27 percent for Mr. Clinton.
"The press just acted like this guy walked on water," Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz said during the campaign.
That's changing, in both directions.
Sarah Palin interrupted her book tour to speak at the Gridiron Club, the biggest social event of the year for Washington journalists.
"The very fact she was willing to take the chance of appearing in a room full of her most disdainful critics is testimony to her courage," wrote Dan Thomasson of Scripps Howard. "She came away with at least a consensus of grudging admiration."
"Her appearance produced the extraordinary scene of inside-the-Beltway cynics and their significant others asking for autographs," Mr. Thomasson noted.
"Palin won the evening," conceded columnist Clarence Page.
"As much as her politics are not mine, after chatting with her and her husband, good-natured 'First Dude' Todd Palin, I came away with a new fondness and respect for both of them," Mr. Page wrote.
"Going Rogue" received savage reviews from most liberals, like that from Ana Marie Cox in The Washington Post, who acknowledged she hadn't actually read the book.
Those who did have a different opinion. Stanley Fish, writing for The New York Times, described it as "compelling and very well done."
The reaction of liberals to Sarah Palin -- which is like that of vampires to garlic -- indicate she is the Republican they fear most. With good reason, Mr. Fish thinks.
"Perseverance, the ability to absorb defeat without falling into defeatism, is the key to Palin's character," he wrote. "Her political opponents, especially those who dismissed Ronald Reagan before he was elected, should take note."
 

A4NoOb

Nominee Member
Feb 27, 2009
83
3
8
We are discussing here the interviews with Couric, ironsides. She did not bomb out quite as badly with Gibson, but by then the damage was done, her image as a flake was established.

Besides, Gibson asked her about the proximity of Alaska to Russia, in that case her answer was quite legitimate.

Couric asked her about foreign policy. To that she gave a vague, rambling answer and brought in the fact that you can see Russia from Alaska. That was a totally different thing.

SirJoseph, why is it whenever I see you, you're posting the same liberal jargon that you can find a teenager parroting. Honestly it's like it would kill you to deviate from the media slogans once in a blue moon. Yes, Palin is not a good politician to interview, so what? Does that predetermine her ability as a leader? Since when did you benchmark the success of a president on the number of political gaffes they leak to the media? I think if anything that benchmarks how much of a sheep you are for using it in a debate. She doesn't have a bad track record when you look at her policies in Alaska, so quite frankly I don't know what merit you have against her. Oh ****, I'm assuming you won't refer to another NYTimes proverb.
 

gopher

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 26, 2005
21,513
66
48
Minnesota: Gopher State
That's certainly true of Obama haters like Walter. He attacked Obama even before he got into the White House and has been relentless in those attacks ever since.
 

SirJosephPorter

Time Out
Nov 7, 2008
11,956
56
48
Ontario
SirJoseph, why is it whenever I see you, you're posting the same liberal jargon that you can find a teenager parroting. Honestly it's like it would kill you to deviate from the media slogans once in a blue moon. Yes, Palin is not a good politician to interview, so what? Does that predetermine her ability as a leader? Since when did you benchmark the success of a president on the number of political gaffes they leak to the media? I think if anything that benchmarks how much of a sheep you are for using it in a debate. She doesn't have a bad track record when you look at her policies in Alaska, so quite frankly I don't know what merit you have against her. Oh ****, I'm assuming you won't refer to another NYTimes proverb.

What I have against her is that 70% of Americans do not think she is a presidential material. I don't care what track record she has in Alaska (and I assume Alaska Democrats will disagree with you on this). she is deeply unpopular with Americans, especially with women.

Benchmark of success is what American people think of a particular politician. By this criteria, Reagan was remarkably successful, even though I happen to think he was a buffoon. By this criteria, Joan of Arc is a miserable failure.

Anyway, I do hope she wins the Republican nomination. The ensuing massacre will be interesting to watch.
 

spaminator

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 26, 2009
38,781
3,548
113


:lol: