Somehow I doubt your point was to to be purposefully fallacious, but fallacious you were.
Our cooling world
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Somehow I doubt your point was to to be purposefully fallacious, but fallacious you were.
I'll go over this one more time, captain, since you seem to be a slow learner. I drive a $600 dollar Mazda 323, 1991 model. I burn approximately $20 of gas a month and that is only because I can't carry heavy groceries or other heavy items due to a serious accident. I couldn't have a smaller foot print on the Earth without dying. Your comments are as ridiculous as your other assertions that humans have no impact on the environment or affect climate change. It is your comments that are without merit. Your shilling for big oil is all too obvious.
I see.... So $600 Mazadas are good for the environment, are they?.. That $20 in gas each month doesn't put profit in the oil companies pockets? Sorry Cliffy, either put your money where you mouth is or stop bitching about a group that makes a profit on a product that you voluntarily purchase.
Everything else that you offer in your statement is simply hypocrisy if you are so capable of making up excuses as to why you are willing to buy this horrible product that delivered by such bad people, especially when there are so many alternatives available.
Basically Cliffy, either go build a treehouse or don't bother making any contribution to the environment.
It's a textbook strawman.
It's a textbook strawman.
Public Service annoucment ...Winters Comin' ..Gonna get cold ...Gonna snow..
Still the trend is warming ...
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The Light is Green...The Future is Clear ..Green/Clean Tech is now...It is the only future..
Environment,Ecology/Economics is all you really need to know....To Move Positively Forward into The Future
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The Light is Green...The Future is Clear ..Green/Clean Tech is now...It is the only future..
Environment,Ecology/Economics is all you really need to know....To Move Positively Forward into The Future
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In the newly released Arctic Ice Report Card, a panel of leading experts on northern ice report on the continued acceleration of ice melt on the Greenland cap. According to Konrad Steffen, one of the world’s most respected experts on the topic, this has already become the warmest year on record in Greenland, where temperature instrumental records date back to 1750.
Steffen notes that, while recent statistical modeling has projected maximum sea level rise due to ice cap melt might be 1 or 2 meters this century, those models have not yet been able to reproduce the glacial movement that is already being observed on places like Jacobshavn glacier, Greenland’s largest.
The official website of Denmark quotes Jason Box of Ohio State University, who says, ”It is my assessment that we have had the strongest melting since they started measuring the temperature in Greenland in 1873..” and sums up the the most recent observations of melting thusly, ”The Danish research scientist Sebastian Mernild of Los Alamos National Laboratory in the US told national daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten that his calculations show that 540 cubic kilometres of inland ice, weighing approx. 500 gigatons, have melted this summer, which is 25-50% more than in a typical year”.
As the data is tallied up for the current year, according to Ohio State Glaciologist Jason Box, “sea level projections will need to be revised upward.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7_pkWVjRXU&feature=player_embedded
Steffen notes that, while recent statistical modeling has projected maximum sea level rise due to ice cap melt might be 1 or 2 meters this century, those models have not yet been able to reproduce the glacial movement that is already being observed on places like Jacobshavn glacier, Greenland’s largest.
The official website of Denmark quotes Jason Box of Ohio State University, who says, ”It is my assessment that we have had the strongest melting since they started measuring the temperature in Greenland in 1873..” and sums up the the most recent observations of melting thusly, ”The Danish research scientist Sebastian Mernild of Los Alamos National Laboratory in the US told national daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten that his calculations show that 540 cubic kilometres of inland ice, weighing approx. 500 gigatons, have melted this summer, which is 25-50% more than in a typical year”.
As the data is tallied up for the current year, according to Ohio State Glaciologist Jason Box, “sea level projections will need to be revised upward.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7_pkWVjRXU&feature=player_embedded
Our cooling world...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp
Interactive graphics here:
Restless Ice - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp
Interactive graphics here:
Restless Ice - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com
Our cooling world...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp
Restless Ice - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/science/earth/14ice.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&hp
Interactive graphics here:
Restless Ice - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com
6 feet rise in ocean would put me on a island. The tides and large waves during the recent storm off Bermuda came within 15 feet of the bluffs where I am.
2010 Hottest Year? Stay Tuned.
Reuters posted the first of what will probably be a spate of articles following the last month of the global temperature record, as 2010 is in a “dead heat” to become the hottest year ever.
Even with a possible cool end to the year, 2010 is expected to be no lower than third in a record where 1998 and 2005 are warmest. The U.N. panel of climate scientists says higher temperatures mean more floods, heatwaves and rising sea levels.
CRU’s Phil Jones says it’s currently in second place, NASA’s James Hansen says the temps through October put 2010 in the lead.
There are subtle differences between the measurements by CRU, NASA and the other global temperature datasets, which allow for CRU to name 1998 as the hottest year, with NASA claiming 2005 – by a few hundredths of a degree.
And for deniers out there, be advised that Dr Roy Spencer also has 2010 as one of the hottest years.
Reuters posted the first of what will probably be a spate of articles following the last month of the global temperature record, as 2010 is in a “dead heat” to become the hottest year ever.
Even with a possible cool end to the year, 2010 is expected to be no lower than third in a record where 1998 and 2005 are warmest. The U.N. panel of climate scientists says higher temperatures mean more floods, heatwaves and rising sea levels.
CRU’s Phil Jones says it’s currently in second place, NASA’s James Hansen says the temps through October put 2010 in the lead.
There are subtle differences between the measurements by CRU, NASA and the other global temperature datasets, which allow for CRU to name 1998 as the hottest year, with NASA claiming 2005 – by a few hundredths of a degree.
And for deniers out there, be advised that Dr Roy Spencer also has 2010 as one of the hottest years.
YouTube - Stu Ostro, Skeptic no more
It’s about that time of year again, as winter snowstorms provoke the inevitable “Whatever happened to Global Warming” jokes and news stories, to be reminded of the powerfully persuasive evidence that made Stu Ostro, senior Meteorologist at the Weather Channel, belatedly wake up to the case for climate change.
I used Stu’s explanation of 2009′s deceptive warmth in one of my most popular videos, which was made to calm the brouhaha after the eastern US was slammed by several extreme snow storms last winter – snow storms that, in fact, were completely consistent with the increased moisture from a warmer climate, coupled with a negative Arctic Oscillation.
Create your own plot here.
Keep trying Walt.:lol:
It’s about that time of year again, as winter snowstorms provoke the inevitable “Whatever happened to Global Warming” jokes and news stories, to be reminded of the powerfully persuasive evidence that made Stu Ostro, senior Meteorologist at the Weather Channel, belatedly wake up to the case for climate change.
I used Stu’s explanation of 2009′s deceptive warmth in one of my most popular videos, which was made to calm the brouhaha after the eastern US was slammed by several extreme snow storms last winter – snow storms that, in fact, were completely consistent with the increased moisture from a warmer climate, coupled with a negative Arctic Oscillation.
Create your own plot here.
Keep trying Walt.:lol:
It's been relatively warm where I am. Winter has barely even started.
I guess this proves global warming!
Key points
I guess this proves global warming!
Key points
- Climate change is not proven nor disproven by individual warming or cooling spells. It’s the longer-term trends, of a decade or more, which place less emphasis on single-year variability, that count.
- The past couple of months have seen a particularly cold winter in parts of the U.S. and elsewhere.
- This has been the result of the “Arctic oscillation” -- a see-sawing pressure system over the North pole -- that has driven cold air into more southern latitudes.
- These cold spells, and other weather changes that are a result of naturally occurring patterns, are still consistent with a globally warming world.
Tiny invaders pump climate impact on fresh water.
The way climate change interacts with other human changes on environment is well illustrated by the impact of warming on Greats Lakes waters in the US.
Parallel environmental problems – pollution runoff from agriculture, and spread of invasive species, both enhanced and accelerated by warmer temperatures, were vividly on display this past summer across the Great Lakes basin – source of 20 percent of the world’s fresh water.
The problem was exacerbated during 2010, one of the warmest summers in the record globally, and discussed in an article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Some smaller, inland lakes in Ohio have blown that standard out of the water, at unimaginably high readings of 2000 ppm.
As the article notes, several species of blue green algae, under conditions not well understood, can produce a toxin deadly to animals and humans.
In one inland Ohio lake, at least 3 dogs have been killed by exposure to blue green algae, and similar deaths have been reported in other great lakes states.
Invasive species compound the problem. The well-known zebra mussels, invaders that hitched their way into the Great Lakes decades ago in the hold of ocean going freighters, can make matters worse, according to Alan Steinman, an aquatic ecologist at Grand Valley State University. In an email, Steinman told me:
Cylindrospermopsis raciborskii is an invasive species that has heretofore been observed in tropical and subtropical environments, and is now being found in the Great Lakes region.
In a 2006 paper, Steinman and colleagues wrote that:
The way climate change interacts with other human changes on environment is well illustrated by the impact of warming on Greats Lakes waters in the US.
Parallel environmental problems – pollution runoff from agriculture, and spread of invasive species, both enhanced and accelerated by warmer temperatures, were vividly on display this past summer across the Great Lakes basin – source of 20 percent of the world’s fresh water.
The problem was exacerbated during 2010, one of the warmest summers in the record globally, and discussed in an article from the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
“Blue-green algae — actually the peptides secreted by certain blue-green algae known as microcystis — is a known neurotoxin, meaning that at high concentrations it can severely damage the nervous system, including the brain. That makes it especially dangerous to small children or those with weak immune systems.
While there are currently no official health standards for microcystin, state officials are posting warnings based on those recommended by the World Health Organization: No more than 20 parts per billion for recreational water and 1 part per billon for drinking water.”
While there are currently no official health standards for microcystin, state officials are posting warnings based on those recommended by the World Health Organization: No more than 20 parts per billion for recreational water and 1 part per billon for drinking water.”
As the article notes, several species of blue green algae, under conditions not well understood, can produce a toxin deadly to animals and humans.
In one inland Ohio lake, at least 3 dogs have been killed by exposure to blue green algae, and similar deaths have been reported in other great lakes states.
Invasive species compound the problem. The well-known zebra mussels, invaders that hitched their way into the Great Lakes decades ago in the hold of ocean going freighters, can make matters worse, according to Alan Steinman, an aquatic ecologist at Grand Valley State University. In an email, Steinman told me:
“…zebra mussels have been implicated in the growth of Microcystis (and other blue-green algae). The mussels are filter-feeders, and they suck in the algae in the water column, but they don’t like blue-green algae. It could be their chemicals, size, or taste, but they end up spitting them back out as pseudo-feces. The algae in these pellets are still viable, and now coated in a rich nutrient bath from inside the mussels, and do quite well.”
In addition, Steinman and his team have identified species of algae not known in the Great Lakes systems when waters and winters were colder than today.
Cylindrospermopsis raciborskii is an invasive species that has heretofore been observed in tropical and subtropical environments, and is now being found in the Great Lakes region.
In a 2006 paper, Steinman and colleagues wrote that:
“Toxin-producing invasive species are one of the greatest threats to global freshwater resources today.
At least three distinct toxins can be produced by Cylindrospermopsis…. cylindrospermopsin, which targets primarily the liver and kidneys, and anatoxin-a and saxitoxin, which are both neurotoxins.
Because of its potential to produce these toxins and its highly adaptable growth, this genus ranks near the top of the watch list of toxic cyanobacteria for water managers (WHO 1999).”
In a greenhouse world, supplies of fresh water, some say, will become the new oil – a significant issue of national security. Global warming intensifies the impact and severity of other environmental stresses, and makes solving future problems of energy, food, and population more difficult.At least three distinct toxins can be produced by Cylindrospermopsis…. cylindrospermopsin, which targets primarily the liver and kidneys, and anatoxin-a and saxitoxin, which are both neurotoxins.
Because of its potential to produce these toxins and its highly adaptable growth, this genus ranks near the top of the watch list of toxic cyanobacteria for water managers (WHO 1999).”
