Ontario to double amount of ethanol in gasoline

[mentalfloss]

Ontario to double amount of ethanol in gasoline

The Ontario government is proposing to double the minimum amount of ethanol in gasoline, a step that would form one of the province's biggest moves toward hitting its greenhouse gas (GHG) reduction targets.

The plan puts Ontario on track to become the first province to require fuel suppliers to put at least 10 per cent ethanol in regular gasoline, starting in 2020. The province's current minimum ethanol mandate is five per cent.

The proposed changes would reduce carbon emissions by about two megatonnes per year. That's the equivalent of taking about 130,000 cars off the roads, according to Chris Ballard, minister of the Environment and Climate Change.

"Increasing ethanol content in gasoline is a very significant step forward in helping us meet our targets," Ballard said Friday in an interview with CBC News. "We're trying to drive down what's coming out of people's tail pipes in terms of carbon content."

Ontario's proposal would require the ethanol that is blended into fuel to be 35 per cent lower in net greenhouse gas emissions than gasoline.

Ontario looks to double amount of ethanol in gasoline - Toronto - CBC News

 

[Danbones]

Well that should rot the motors out nicely
and after the global warmists ( Micheal the liar Mann) were beaten in court

What a bunch of expensive nazicommie dummies

 

[Walter]

Ethanol production is a scam that the gubmint should run away rom.

 

[Danbones]

But what if they are the scam?

 

[TenPenny]

The corn farmers must be well connected in Ontario.

 

[justlooking]

Well that should rot the motors out nicely

Indeed.
You can see a market for bootleg gas developing.

 

[DaSleeper]

The corn farmers must be well connected in Ontario.

Not enough corn in canada to do it, they will have to import corn or gas from the U S ....
Look it up

 

[TenPenny]

Of course, ethanol has less energy than gasoline, so adding ethanol makes the engines less efficient.

 

[Jinentonix]

Not enough corn in canada to do it, they will have to import corn or gas from the U S ....
Look it up

Once again, Canada talks a great game but actually does very little about it. This is another example of where Canada could have been at the forefront. Making ethanol will continue to be a land-mass problem until cellulosic ethanol becomes commercially viable.
Oddly enough though, when one calculates the energy and current land requirements to make ethanol, we'd actually be better off burning the plant material as bio-mass to provide energy for EVs.

As an aside, cities get a bad rap for "destroying" perfectly good land. But is it really deserved? Look at farms. Crop farms leach nutrients from the soil. It doesn't matter if they rotate their crops, they're also rotating the nutrients they're leaching from the soil. Whereas cities lay down asphalt and that asphalt seals in the nutrients. ;-)

 

[Twin_Moose]

We have been at 10% ethanol blend for a few years in regular fuel in the West for a number of years now, and we use wheat to produce the alcohol

http://www.northwestterminal.com/images/E0019801/Move_Over_Corn.pdf

 

[taxslave]

SO while the world starves we are turning valuable food crop land into low grade fuel for cars while perfectly good and much more efficient oil sits in the ground.

 

[Twin_Moose]

It helped make farming profitable again Wheat hasn't been $1/bshl for decades now

 

[Walter]

It helped make farming profitable again Wheat hasn't been $1/bshl for decades now

Farmers in my area are driving new pick-ups so things are good.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Farmers in my area are driving new pick-ups so things are good.

Couldn't say that 20 years ago, changes in financing has also helped a lot

 

[Walter]

Couldn't say that 20 years ago, changes in financing has also helped a lot

Can say it now.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Yes $60k truck compared to $500k-multi million input expense is small potatoes if things go South

 

[Jinentonix]

SO while the world starves we are turning valuable food crop land into low grade fuel for cars while perfectly good and much more efficient oil sits in the ground.

Well, while I agree with you in principle, more food production won't solve the problem because the problem is in the distribution. And well quite frankly, also in the amount of food waste, particularly in the West. Seriously, the amount of food that we North Americans toss in the trash every year would feed every starving person on the planet.

That's why I mentioned cellulosic ethanol previously. If we're going to go the ethanol route anyway, cellulosic ethanol would let farmers double-end the sale of their crops. They can use the same land to grow food AND fuel at the same time since the chaff is what would be used in the manufacturing of cellulosic ethanol.

 

[captain morgan]

Methanol can already service that need

 

[Hoid]

NAscar runs E85.

 

[EagleSmack]

SO while the world starves we are turning valuable food crop land into low grade fuel for cars while perfectly good and much more efficient oil sits in the ground.

Yes it looks like we're back to starving the children.