Ontario School Board Pressures Teachers Not To Teach Racist "To Kill a Mockingbird"

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'No,' is the n word right?
 

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From the article, “The memo notes that the racist slur known as the n-word appears 19 times in the book.”

At least Atticus didn’t kneel during the anthem. That would have been really bad.
 

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From the article, “The memo notes that the racist slur known as the n-word appears 19 times in the book.”
It's called context. Look at the flap over 'Money for Nothing'. When the lyric "faggot" comes up, Knopfler isn't using the term himself, he's using the term to describe the jealousy of those who wish they were rock stars. Same with the book. The author isn't calling Black people ni**ers.
And that's another problem with our educational system. They no longer seem to discuss context and instead prefer to ban books they find "uncomfortable".
You know who else likes to ban books? Fascists and religious nutters.
 

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nobody is banning any books.

or censoring any books.

or really doing anything more than informing teachers that if they want to use a certain novel in their classroom that it is on them to deal with the repercussions from students and parents who are sick and tired of dealing with what today are racist ideas. As tax payers they shouldn't have to.

If you need to teach these outdated ideas then maybe look for a private institution that will will support you.

I hear Georgetown has one.
 

Jinentonix

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nobody is banning any books.
or censoring any books.
or really doing anything more than informing teachers that if they want to use a certain novel in their classroom that it is on them to deal with the repercussions from students and parents who are sick and tired of dealing with what today are racist ideas. As tax payers they shouldn't have to.
If you need to teach these outdated ideas then maybe look for a private institution that will will support you.
I hear Georgetown has one.
Context is an outdated idea? Man, sure can tell you're ALT-left. BY the by, this kind of shit is just a step in getting a book banned.
 

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Its just a step in getting a relevant text into the school system. God forbid.
 

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Is all the micro film ever going to have the text digitized?
 

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Wow Hoid! Have you even read the book or at least seen the movie? You are so out of touch about what the book is about it's incredibly silly of you to offer a comment when you don't know what you're talking about.


The book itself shows what racism is and does and how horrible it was/is to be Black! Do you honestly think that discussing what the book entails would give poor little kiddies nightmares and anger parents simply to show hoq NOT to be today and how ATTITUDES must and are changing towards people of different color? Or do you simply want to preach, rant and rave about how bad it was and how dare the author write a book about racism.


You are terribly narrow minded and obviously don't want children/teens to learn about the history of the Black people and what they've gone through to get to where we are now and how far we still need to go. That is absolutely mind numbing as far as I am concerned. How does anyone learn about anything when they're not allowed to know what was and how we got here? Unbelievable!


And yes, it's the first step to banning the book!!


JMHO
 

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Its just a step in getting a relevant text into the school system. God forbid.
Racism isn't relevant? Black people are no longer being railroaded by the legal system?
 

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The more people want to ban a book, the more that I think it needs to be read and discussed (not taught; you can't really 'teach' a book as each person will get something different out of it which I wish higher up educators would get).
 

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On paper that sounds alright, however, if it is bad teachers that are defining what the standards are there might be a tendency to invent a label called 'difficult student' rather than 'under-qualified teacher' as it should be.
If the ones in charge are providing the solution doing the opposite should be the path most explored as being the right one. If the ones being trampled on decide then cut the causality list by 50%, the bottom part rather than the top part.
If one politician goes lame fire the whole bunch and vote using referendums that have to be acted on within 90 days, the other side finishes out the term being the boss just as added incentive to avoid foolish actions.
Difficult student is what they call free thinkers. Give them Ritiln instead of lobotomies these days cause there is more money in it.
 

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nobody is banning any books.
or censoring any books.
or really doing anything more than informing teachers that if they want to use a certain novel in their classroom that it is on them to deal with the repercussions from students and parents who are sick and tired of dealing with what today are racist ideas. As tax payers they shouldn't have to.
If you need to teach these outdated ideas then maybe look for a private institution that will will support you.
I hear Georgetown has one.
SO history class is too much for you? Doesn't your school have any safe spaces where you can go cry about how hard it is to be a student where you actually have to show up to get an A.
 

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Difficult student is what they call free thinkers. Give them Ritiln instead of lobotomies these days cause there is more money in it.
I would be more tempted to have everybody take a lot of personality tests and an honest report come out as to what hobbies and careers they would have the least struggle with and if they want something else it will take more study rather that is is out of their 'reach'.
Give them an outlet for that creative energy outside of school and they would be the ones able to skip grades more often than anybody else.

If a student grasps the math concept on day1 and it goes on for another 4 days so the rest can grasp it he will be bored by the end of day1
Today grade 6 is teaching the same basic stuff introduced in grade 1 only the numbers are a bit larger. High School math is the next big jump. If a grade 2 student was doing geometry question would he still be distracted?
 

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I would be more tempted to have everybody take a lot of personality tests and an honest report come out as to what hobbies and careers they would have the least struggle with and if they want something else it will take more study rather that is is out of their 'reach'.
Give them an outlet for that creative energy outside of school and they would be the ones able to skip grades more often than anybody else.
If a student grasps the math concept on day1 and it goes on for another 4 days so the rest can grasp it he will be bored by the end of day1
Today grade 6 is teaching the same basic stuff introduced in grade 1 only the numbers are a bit larger. High School math is the next big jump. If a grade 2 student was doing geometry question would he still be distracted?
Something to think about. AS I recall growing up and later when my son was in school the system is set up for the lowest common denominator. With lots of help for the really slow kids. Meanwhile little or nothing is being done to push the really bright to test themselves. Therefore they get board.
 

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Today the same class should have a way of letting the fast student more ahead at the fastest pace he can. The format use by Distant Learning Schools could be used and the teach could still help everybody rather than focusing on just the slowest. If I'm not mistaken sometimes paring a fast and slow student together helps the slower student and the boredom in the faster student, that might cause more problem than it solves. Maybe a study partner outside of class would fix that flaw.
 

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here is the class of students who needed the message in To Kill a Mockingbird.
In today's world it's just as relevant.

Have you been exposed to the racism between Chinese and E Indians? Blacks and Arabs? Arabs and E Indians? Chinese and Caucasians?

Chinese look at E. Indians as dirty uncultured thieving lowlifes who are only good for cheap labour.

Does that not sound familiar? How is the way Chinese treat E Indians different from the way Whites once treated Blacks?
 

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The ON screwel boards removed Merchant Of Venice decades ago. More’s the shame.
 

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In today's world it's just as relevant.




these kids don't need to hear what old white people think about racism in the 20th century.

it is of no value to them whatsoever.
 

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these kids don't need to hear what old white people think about racism in the 20th century.

it is of no value to them whatsoever.


If those kids are reading To Kill a Mockingbird, then something is wrong with the system. TKAM is a teen/high school book...
 

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Er...

Hoid ain't too good with Math...or English, Geography, Science, Art, Gym, or Woodworking...for that matter. ;)