Ontario Election October 2007

[Avro]

I wouldn't be to sure of this, people remember the Harris days and are leary of the Tory's as we still see today the effects of the "common sence revolution." Destroying Toronto, selling highways, ignoring infastructure, ignoring students, creating turmoil in schools, Walkerton, Dudley Geroge, Family support plan, downloading to pay for tax cuts, etc etc.......

This scandal should at least tighten up the race and perhaps boost the NDP's fortunes.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Maybe we'll get a provincial- minority government

Dalton isn't exactly a popular guy though either, consider anything he promises in an election campaign to be a lie, just like the last one. I'm not a big fan of John Tory either, but he certain;y isn't cut from the same cloth as Harris and Eves.

 

[lone wolf]

Though a good percentage of Harris' henchmen are in Haper's govenment now, I won't forget.

http://journals.aol.com/lone56wolf/i-should-have..../

A tory is a tory is a Tory....

Wolf

 

[tamarin]

In Ontario, a completely disenchanted electorate is about to go to the polls again. The latest Liberal scandal's been in the news for months. Looks like Dalton is finally taking seriously something he simply sloughed off before. Tory is viewed more and more as an opportunist. We don't have much to choose from. It's like an employer desperately needing skilled tradesmen being told to show up at the local human resources depot to take the pick of recent school dropouts. We need better people to run for office.

 

[ottawabill]

Beyond the fact that I liked the Harris torys and what they did for this province..John Tory is not anywhere cut from the same cloth and shouldn't be compared in anyway to Mikey... He is much more of the Bill Davis tory....Fiscal conservative with socialist tendencies. It's the kind of approach that kept the Tories in power for years in Ontario, Likely it is the natural way for Ontario except the Conservatives went further right, and out of their comfort zone. If I was Mcguilicutty I'd be quite fearful of the John Tory approach...He may find his Liberals in opposition for a very long time

 

[Walter]

September 19, 2007

McGuinty has done this before

By Lorrie Goldstein

Question: Why did the McGuinty go to a publicly funded, faith-based school to tell us Conservative Leader John Tory's plan to publicly fund-faith based schools endangers public education?
Answer: Because it's all he's got, turkeys.
So far, despite media hysteria, the polls haven't really changed. Premier Dalton McGuinty's Liberals are stuck at 40% support -- with the Conservatives stalled five or six points back.
While those numbers give McGuinty enough to win, they won't give him a majority government.
If that holds, McGuinty won't be celebrating Oct. 10. That's why McGuinty keeps doing his Chicken Little routine that on Monday, saw him descend on a poor, unsuspecting publicly-funded faith-based school (Catholic) to denounce public funding for faith-based schools (non-Catholic).
A few years ago, McGuinty, his past and present education ministers (Gerard Kennedy and Kathleen Wynne), and other Liberals said the policy he's now denouncing was the fair thing to do.
So why is McGuinty, educated at a publicly funded, faith-based school, smearing Tory as a segregationist and fear-mongering by implying that whatever's going on in those privately-funded Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu and other faith-based schools, it's probably not anything good?
Why is this self-described champion of diversity, stooping to this?
Because what else is he going to do, silly, to get his support up to the 43% level he needs for a majority government?
Run on his record of keeping his election promises? Ha, ha ha!
Argue that John Tory isn't up to the job? Actually, when asked, more voters prefer Tory as premier than McGuinty.
Finally, if McGuinty is so proud of his record, why isn't he running on it?
Why does he run back to denouncing funding faith-based schools every time anyone mentions the crisis in long-term health care, job losses in the manufacturing sector or that Ontario's coal-fired generating plants, which he promised to close this year, will be polluting our air until at least 2014?
It's because he wants to win, silly, and he'll say anything to do it. Which, of course, is exactly what he did in 2003.

 

[Unforgiven]

Hmmm so as long as the curriculum is taught, A Satanic/Demonic worship school of Death Metal Could stand along side a school for Gangsta/Thug Rap/Hip hop academy. Why there could even be a school to teach some proper worship of the Godz Of Rock, Jimmy by thy name.

I am so down for Zombie night at VooDoo highschool.

We could probably squeeze a little more out of Ontario than a measly few hundred million though don't you think?

 

[ottawabill]

Funny how the Liberals can't stand on their record but instead talk of what the Conservative party did to Ontario years past. It use to be called the Mike Harris tories but that won't fly now!! They also know that John Tory is nothing like Mike Harris..or even Steven Harper for that matter. He is if the old Bill Davis stock that ran Ontario very well for many many years. Social programs with fiscal restraint.

Mr. Mcguinty has done very little in his term except to sound possitive...talks about working together while he makes abitrary choices and drops promises. reduced grade school class sizes at the expense of mid grades...moved money from cancer to hip replacemnet so that hip replacemnt treatment sounds good, will other treatments suffer....Don't nothig about the Caladonia situation for fear that if someone gets hurt he will look like Mike Harris...So he does nothing.... Closes generating stations without a plan but spends fortuness on commercials for us to conserve energy...

Mr. Tory gets my vote for sure!!!

btw the education issue is a none starter....we are talking 53,000 people at best!!

 

[Unforgiven]

Yeah Tory ain't at all like those power hungry Torys. Sure he wanted to be Mayor of Toronto, but that didn't work so he became the leader of the Ontario Torys. Not like Earnie was going anywhere with it and none of the other tory flunkies were going to stick their neck out.

Now he's the leader of the Ontario Conservatives and wants to be Priemier.
Hell, if he loses this run it stands to reason that he will be trying to gobble up Harpers position should Harper bungle the next election.

But it's not like the guy is some power hungry ego polisher. Not like Harris and Harper anyway. ;-)

 

[ottawabill]

would you like to tell me which political type is NOT power hunger..the job pays less than what most of them earn....everyone of them is about Ego and power!!! think McGuinty is any different?

 

[Unforgiven]

would you like to tell me which political type is NOT power hunger..the job pays less than what most of them earn....everyone of them is about Ego and power!!! think McGuinty is any different?

So you're vote goes to the guy to admit is in it for the power and to hell with everything else? Just because he's not a Liberal?

If so, is there any wonder how things got to the state they're in.