Ontario Election October 2007

tamarin

House Member
Jun 12, 2006
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McGuinty has a huge personal deficit to overcome. The election should be Tory's to lose. Then, of course, there's the bear in the room. Swaths of folks so P'O they'll likely not vote at all.
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
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Dalton McGuinty is a fraud and a liar. There have been lists compiled of the campaign promises and "positions" on legislation that McGuinty posed that he flipped on.

While I live on $979 a month, McGuinty handed MPPs a 25% raise on their hundred thousand plus annual salaries...while disabled folk got....wait for it.....








2%

Guess who I won't be voting for.....
 

tamarin

House Member
Jun 12, 2006
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Good point, Mikey! And you have to remember too that Harris in his dying days granted a 22% hike for MPP's. That's a wallop of an increase in a short period. And thanks to Stats Can, and its inflation mythologists, pensioners everywhere are barely getting enough new grease on their skillets to fry an egg. I wonder what Dullton has up his sleeve for his upcoming campaign.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
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A lot of truth shrounding a few lies that as usual he hopes no one is going to pay much attention to.

But then that's the game plan of anyone who runs for anything more important that hall monitor in elementry school so there you go.


Good point, Mikey! And you have to remember too that Harris in his dying days granted a 22% hike for MPP's. That's a wallop of an increase in a short period. And thanks to Stats Can, and its inflation mythologists, pensioners everywhere are barely getting enough new grease on their skillets to fry an egg. I wonder what Dullton has up his sleeve for his upcoming campaign.
 

Tim Hamilton

New Member
May 6, 2007
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Call me stupid but im voting liberal those PC would call themselves republicans if they could. Martin may have been a liar but he didnt really hump americas leg like harper seems to like, in my opinion

It's a provincial election, you twit. You don't have the foggiest idea of what you're talking about; no wonder you would proudly vote liberal!
 

tamarin

House Member
Jun 12, 2006
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Oshawa ON
Education and health care are the usual election heavies in Ontario. Given the two distinct approaches offered by Tory and McGuinty for educational funding (of faith based schools), we might actually have some clear choices in the coming campaign. A Star poll published today soundly struck down the Tory proposal. It could be news that the big M likes.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
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Education and health care are the usual election heavies in Ontario. Given the two distinct approaches offered by Tory and McGuinty for educational funding (of faith based schools), we might actually have some clear choices in the coming campaign. A Star poll published today soundly struck down the Tory proposal. It could be news that the big M likes.

Yeah no one wants to deal with the real problems like the gun problem in Toronto or the TTC, pollution crossing the border or water quality problems in the Great Lakes.
 

lone wolf

Grossly Underrated
Nov 25, 2006
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In the bush near Sudbury
Second chance they'll have an idea who REALLY controls the madness. I remember all too well what Harris Tories did to those he deemed as beneath him and Liberals haven't done much to fix up what their predecessors screwed up. Little guy needs a big voice.... HOWIE!

Wolf
 

Zzarchov

House Member
Aug 28, 2006
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Tory is now considering extending funding to all religious schools. We should fund no religious schools. Catholics should pay for their own religious education like all other denominations, sects and religions.


You make a deal you keep a deal. If we breach this, Manitoba and Quebec should get to seperate, not only free of charge but with damages. You can't break a deal because you don't like it anymore. The rule of law requires you to keep agreements, lose the rule of law, lose everything.
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
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With any luck a sound conservative government will be elected in Ontario. Only a solid conservative government could re-implement the death penalty in Ontario. Only a solid conservative government will be able to bring the virtually unchecked clamor by trade unions for inflated wages and special benefits under control. We don't need less government we need more government and the conservative view of government would answer this need.
 

tamarin

House Member
Jun 12, 2006
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Oshawa ON
We don't need more government. We need good government. And decent people willing to run. Tory sounds more and more the 'tard these days and McGuinty, despite his obvious faults, the better politician.
We don't have much to choose from here. It's quite the mess.
 

Impetus

Electoral Member
May 31, 2007
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I think the Death Penalty would have to be decided at the federal level...

We need less government and more accountability, or better "governance" of government.

The Auditor General's department should be beefed up and mandated to clean house, approve (or disapprove) any major government contracts, and establish realistic government salaries, union agreements and pensions.

Muz

With any luck a sound conservative government will be elected in Ontario. Only a solid conservative government could re-implement the death penalty in Ontario. Only a solid conservative government will be able to bring the virtually unchecked clamor by trade unions for inflated wages and special benefits under control. We don't need less government we need more government and the conservative view of government would answer this need.
 

Avro

Time Out
Feb 12, 2007
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Tory is now considering extending funding to all religious schools. We should fund no religious schools. Catholics should pay for their own religious education like all other denominations, sects and religions.

Wow, I agree with you Walt, you're bang on with this comment. This issue has so many problems with it I'm not sure where to start.

It will cost about 400 million to impliment, money the province dosen't have and it's on top of Tory promising to get rid of the provicial health care levy. So one has to ask; what public property is he going to sell (407) that I will have to pay through the nose to use?

It is nothing more than segrigation of various cultures that has been proven in many places to be detrimential to society.

Can I send my child of no religion to a Jewish private school like I can the Catholic system and why not?

How will the funding formula work? Will they get the same amount per pupil and could parents pay premiums on top of that for better school supplies and equipment?

Will this splinter an already underfunded public education system as other private schools pop up like weeds?

.....one system for all, religious education is the responsibility of the parents and the church, not the state.
 

DurkaDurka

Internet Lawyer
Mar 15, 2006
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The provincial Liberals really put the nail in their coffin with this latest funding scandal. http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/240471

"A scandal over $32 million in grants to multicultural groups has cost Ontario Immigration and Citizenship Minister Mike Colle his job and jolted Premier Dalton McGuinty's government with an election just 11 weeks away."