Ontario building 500 electric vehicle charging stations in 250 locations in 2017

darkbeaver

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Have you seen a Lithium Ion mining operation?
Look it up :lol:

Can't wait for them to mass produce these cars. :lol:
You think we are destroying the earth now? ;)
The earth was given to us, we should use it, you green people should examine the numbers do you realize the BTU,s you represent? We might just burn you all to generate real watts. Please bag yourself and present the blue bag of your stuff for conversion to real heat.
 

JamesBondo

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Just to be clear, charge statìons will have to follow a for profit business model eventually. So is this just some big corporate hand out, or is the province sticking there nose into an industry where they shouldnt?
 

Bar Sinister

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Have you seen a Lithium Ion mining operation?
Look it up :lol:

Can't wait for them to mass produce these cars. :lol:
You think we are destroying the earth now? ;)

No, but I have seen what oilfields, open pit coal mines, and the tar sands look like. Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
 

Angstrom

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No, but I have seen what oilfields, open pit coal mines, and the tar sands look like. Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

that is exactly my point. Why bother with lithium battery cars if its a black pot switch to a black kettle.

:roll:
 

Angstrom

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Only a small minded progressive would want to go from one dirty solution to a other as dirty solution, In the hope Carbon would be lowered but Lithium pollution would more then compromise the gains.

Im all for progress, As long as its worth it. Batteries are dirty as hell. Im not wasting my time with it.

When the market has a real game changer ill be very happy to support it. Until then my gas engine is going to do the trick.
 

MHz

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No, but I have seen what oilfields, open pit coal mines, and the tar sands look like. Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
The oil industry is famous for creating a big mess and it gets cleaned up at taxpayer expense, if they get caught. Texaco in the Amazon is typical, so is Love Canal as far as being poisonous spots in the US. No do it with the health concerns being at the top of the list and coal mines would be surrounded by greenhouses with the best produce at the local Farmer's Market. Notice the big difference that comes with one small change in the current program.
 

TenPenny

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The oil industry is famous for creating a big mess and it gets cleaned up at taxpayer expense, if they get caught. Texaco in the Amazon is typical, so is Love Canal as far as being poisonous spots in the US. No do it with the health concerns being at the top of the list and coal mines would be surrounded by greenhouses with the best produce at the local Farmer's Market. Notice the big difference that comes with one small change in the current program.



Love Canal has nothing to do with oil industry.


if you want to be taken seriously, keep your facts straight.
 

Bar Sinister

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that is exactly my point. Why bother with lithium battery cars if its a black pot switch to a black kettle.

:roll:


I'm just curious. How many of these mining operations are you in favour of closing? Mining is mining. All of it ends up with bloody great holes in the ground and the despoiling of the countryside for miles in all directions. Unfortunately, until we start mining asteroids that is the only way to get the raw materials necessary for human existence.

0 Most Incredible Open-Pit Mines



https://10mosttoday.com/10-most-incredible-open-pit-mines/
 

Angstrom

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I'm just curious. How many of these mining operations are you in favour of closing? Mining is mining. All of it ends up with bloody great holes in the ground and the despoiling of the countryside for miles in all directions. Unfortunately, until we start mining asteroids that is the only way to get the raw materials necessary for human existence.

0 Most Incredible Open-Pit Mines



https://10mosttoday.com/10-most-incredible-open-pit-mines/

Make as many open-pit mines as you want. Im not in favour of closing any of them. Im just not going to jump hoops like a idiot to buy a electric vehicle thinking to myself im saving the earth by doing it.

I know id be only switching my support for a great big oil pit, to a new great big lithium pit.

Go ahead and look at the small picture.
Ill stick with looking at the bigger picture.
 

Bar Sinister

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Make as many open-pit mines as you want. Im not in favour of closing any of them. Im just not going to jump hoops like a idiot to buy a electric vehicle thinking to myself im saving the earth by doing it.

I know id be only switching my support for a great big oil pit, to a new great big lithium pit.

Go ahead and look at the small picture.
Ill stick with looking at the bigger picture.

I suspect your outlook is too limited to take in the big picture. This technology is not going away just because you are opposed to it. And I'm curious. Do you by any chance own a cell phone powered by the sort of battery you deplore?
 

DaSleeper

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I suspect your outlook is too limited to take in the big picture. This technology is not going away just because you are opposed to it. And I'm curious. Do you by any chance own a cell phone powered by the sort of battery you deplore?
Anyone who has heard of cell phone batteries exploding while being charged wouldn't want to be anywhere near a car being fast charged....if they are the same type.......
 

petros

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I'm just curious. How many of these mining operations are you in favour of closing? Mining is mining. All of it ends up with bloody great holes in the ground and the despoiling of the countryside for miles in all directions. Unfortunately, until we start mining asteroids that is the only way to get the raw materials necessary for human existence.

0 Most Incredible Open-Pit Mines



https://10mosttoday.com/10-most-incredible-open-pit-mines/

Cool link Smurfette. Now you know where copper for electric motors come from.
 

Twin_Moose

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I'm going to assume this is part of the infrastructure projects that PMJT promised in the election, because I can't see any for profit company investing into this on their own, I don't see the demand for these stations to pay for themselves, maybe I'm wronge :)
 

Bar Sinister

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Anyone who has heard of cell phone batteries exploding while being charged wouldn't want to be anywhere near a car being fast charged....if they are the same type.......

Hmm, last time I checked out gasoline it was very explosive.

Cool link Smurfette. Now you know where copper for electric motors come from.

So you answer would be none. That is exactly what I thought.

Goodbye internal combustion engine?
Britain bans gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040

Britain bans gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040 - Jul. 26, 2017

France set to ban sale of petrol and diesel vehicles by 2040

France set to ban sale of petrol and diesel vehicles by 2040 - BBC News
 

Angstrom

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I suspect your outlook is too limited to take in the big picture. This technology is not going away just because you are opposed to it. And I'm curious. Do you by any chance own a cell phone powered by the sort of battery you deplore?

I own many lithium batteries. I don't hate them, im just not stupid enough to think they are a environmentally friendly product that will save the planet.

Construction has done more to help refine battery technology then all other industry combined.

Can't say im looking forward to the price jumping way up for lithium as the demand goes crazy.

To bad it doesn't work in cold weather. Guess we can continue using our gas powered cars.
 

Johnnny

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I own many lithium batteries. I don't hate them, im just not stupid enough to think they are a environmentally friendly product that will save the planet.

Construction has done more to help refine battery technology then all other industry combined.

Can't say im looking forward to the price jumping way up for lithium as the demand goes crazy.

To bad it doesn't work in cold weather. Guess we can continue using our gas powered cars.

Angstrom, your the kinda kid who no matter how many batteries he owned, he would still get lost and expire, that's Angstrom.
 

Angstrom

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Ill make you a deal. If you make me a lithium truck that works in the cold & that cost less then a gas powered one. Ill buy one. ;).

And i can continue destroying the earth via big lithium mines rather then big oil mines.
 
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