On pipelines and politics, Alberta's Notley is the clear winner

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On pipelines and politics, Alberta's Notley is the clear winner

Alberta Premier Rachel Notley should consider sending John Horgan a case of Okanagan pinot noir when their pipeline fight concludes. It would be the least she could do given the political gift he bestowed on her.

If it wasn't apparent earlier it is now: Ms. Notley is not just winning this tussle, she's mopping the floor with B.C.'s NDP Premier. She called a momentary truce this week to give the federal government a chance to bring the B.C. government to its senses. The Alberta Premier needed a rest anyway, exhausted as she likely is from flailing away on her hapless opponent for well over a week now.

For those just joining us, B.C.'s Environment Minister George Heyman announced a couple of weeks ago that the province was going to commence more studies on the impact diluted bitumen would have on the environment in the event of a spill. Additionally, he said the government would consider restricting the flow of oil through the proposed Trans Mountain pipeline until it was satisfied any leaks could be adequately cleaned up.


It was this last provision that caused Ms. Notley to lose it. She asserted, quite properly, that B.C. had no constitutional authority to restrict oil or any other product from moving through a federally approved pipeline. (The federal government quickly concurred). She viewed the move as a provocative attack on her province's economy, launching a boycott of B.C. wine in response. She has promised more sanctions unless Mr. Horgan gets a grip soon and rescinds the threat.

The entire affair has been an unexpected boon to Ms. Notley, who has been widely hailed for the tough, uncompromising manner in which she has stood up for her province. She is a skilled politician who knows she is on the right side of this argument; she knows, too, she has everything to gain by tightening the screws on B.C. further if Mr. Horgan refuses to back down.

Meantime, her greatest rival, United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney, has been relegated to the political sidelines. There is little for which he can criticize his adversary and it is no doubt killing him to see her growing in stature before his very eyes. He must know that his go-to line about Ms. Notley refusing to stand up for Alberta's interests now rings hollow.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...s-notley-is-the-clear-winner/article37970518/
 

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So far, Notley is doing very well.

Unfortunately, the Feds are just standing aside, and offering lip service.

This should not be a scrap between Alberta and BC, it should be a scrap between BC and Canada.

But Trudeau is standing on the sidelines, pretending to support Notley, doing nothing, while secretly hoping Horgan succeeds and the builders shut down the project.

What a PoS.

Were he serious, he would take action.

He needs to have a very public chat with Horgan. Tell him the project is in the national interest, that he considers the fight that BC is starting is with the federal gov't, and it won't be tolerated. Tell him BC has no say, as interprovincial transportation of goods is solely a federal responsibility according to the constitution.

Tell him that any proposed BC law to regulate interprovincial trade will be disallowed by the feds, and that any protest that blocks construction will be met with force, and arrests.

Tell him he has every right to complain, as do the people, and to peacefully protest, but anything beyond that will not be tolerated.

Then do it.

The senior level of gov't in this country is federal, and Horgan needs to be brought to heel.
 

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Trudeau is a globalist, destroying canada suits THEIR agenda.
 

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I love seeing the dipper house of cards flapping in the breeze. November we start recall if Horrible Horgan and dream weaver make it that long.
 

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How is she winning exactly?

When they can prove that a spill can be cleaned up they will have won.

Therefore they will never win because it cannot be cleaned up and everybody knows it.

Not only should the expansion be stopped dead, but the current pipeline should be shut down permanently.
 

Colpy

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How is she winning exactly?

When they can prove that a spill can be cleaned up they will have won.

Therefore they will never win because it cannot be cleaned up and everybody knows it.

Not only should the expansion be stopped dead, but the current pipeline should be shut down permanently.

Ahhhh....the current pipeline supplies a gasoline, fuel oil, and jet fuel.....to BC.

:)

Which they would buy from Washington State if the pipeline was shut down

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-...erta-shut-fuel-pipeline-to-b-c-pretty-ruinous

You keep pitching them, I'll keep knocking them out of the park

You guys really aren't dealing with reality, are you?
 

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Seems kind'a funny that Trudeau is so desperate to get our oil to China. Seems kind'a funny how "social licence" suddenly means nothing to the little twerp, unless you're Quebec of course.
 

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How is she winning exactly?

When they can prove that a spill can be cleaned up they will have won.

Therefore they will never win because it cannot be cleaned up and everybody knows it.

Not only should the expansion be stopped dead, but the current pipeline should be shut down permanently.
How many oil tankers are in the Salish Sea right now ? How many have or are having spills ?
 

petros

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Ahhhh....the current pipeline supplies a gasoline, fuel oil, and jet fuel.....to BC.

:)

Which they would buy from Washington State if the pipeline was shut down

Expert says columnist suggestion Alberta shut fuel pipeline to B.C. ‘pretty ruinous’ | Vancouver Sun

You keep pitching them, I'll keep knocking them out of the park

You guys really aren't dealing with reality, are you?

Washington State refineries rely on Canadian feedstock.

https://www.shell.us/about-us/proje...efinery/about-shell-puget-sound-refinery.html

The plant has an annual average crude processing rate of approximately 145,000 barrels (5.7 million gallons) per day. When the refinery first began operating, most of its crude oil came from Canada via pipeline. Although it continues to receive crude from central and western Canada, feedstock also arrives by tanker from oilfields on Alaska's North Slope.
 

pgs

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Ahhhh....the current pipeline supplies a gasoline, fuel oil, and jet fuel.....to BC.

:)

Which they would buy from Washington State if the pipeline was shut down

Expert says columnist suggestion Alberta shut fuel pipeline to B.C. ‘pretty ruinous’ | Vancouver Sun

You keep pitching them, I'll keep knocking them out of the park

You guys really aren't dealing with reality, are you?
Hood is under the impression that we will all be sitting in self driving electric vehicles soon .The fact that he can’t afford one is lost somewhere .If he can’t afford one what with all the riches he has amassed in property over the years, how will the rest of us peon afford them .
 

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It's also kind'a funny that a bunch of raw sewage dumpers are so friggin' concerned about the environment. :lol: Can you say, 'hypocritical douchebags'? I know ya can.
 

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Washington State refineries rely on Canadian feedstock.

https://www.shell.us/about-us/proje...efinery/about-shell-puget-sound-refinery.html

The plant has an annual average crude processing rate of approximately 145,000 barrels (5.7 million gallons) per day. When the refinery first began operating, most of its crude oil came from Canada via pipeline. Although it continues to receive crude from central and western Canada, feedstock also arrives by tanker from oilfields on Alaska's North Slope.
Right through Jaun De Fula Straight . The horror .

Right through Jaun De Fula Straight . The horror .
Make that Fula .

Right through Jaun De Fula Straight . The horror .


Make that Fula .
It won’t let me spell Fu ca .
 

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Investors Bail on Trapped Canada Oil as Pipeline Woes Deepen

Canada’s energy companies can’t get any love, even from many Canadians.
With pipeline, regulatory and political frustrations reaching new heights, the nation’s energy stocks slumped to their lowest level in almost two years this month. The iShares S&P/TSX Capped Energy Index ETF, which tracks Canadian energy companies, has seen about $56 million in outflows this year versus $32 million in inflows for an ETF focused on U.S. stocks. The pain has extended to the fixed-income market, with U.S. dollar high-yield bonds from Canadian energy issuers returning less than their global peers in the past 12 months.

At the heart of the sector’s woes is a dearth of pipeline capacity, which has depressed Canadian oil and natural gas prices. A new regulatory regime designed to speed up pipeline approvals is instead seen delaying projects while Alberta and British Columbia are fighting over one of the conduits the federal government has approved. On top of that, the industry is facing carbon taxes other jurisdictions don’t have to pay and it’s competing with American drillers which are seeing taxes cut under the Trump Administration.
“I’m not crazy about Canada,” Paul Tepsich, founder and portfolio manager at hedge fund High Rock Capital Management Inc. in Toronto, said by phone. “We’ve got taxes going up and regulations going up.”
Tepsich said he reduced the average exposure to Canadian energy equities in his clients’ to well under 3 percent from 8 percent a year ago. And while credit exposure remains relatively steady, he has no plans to add new holdings. He’s been adding to short-dated U.S. Treasuries amid market volatility and will look to selectively add U.S. energy names.
 
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